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  2. The Wanderer

    Sunday"s coming,___________________________

    Its a very convoluted subject at best now. So many theories out there now, all competing for top spot in our minds and hearts. We have somehow duped ourselves into thinking "prophecy" is simply "prediction" and many have come and gone with theories that they feel is above the rest; yet the whole point of prophecy is not dependent upon predictions or times or dates. Prophecy is, in effect, "HIS STORY." Not history. When we understand prophecy in this way, then we have that testimony that will move the world, and be a personal testimony of our experience with Jesus. (1 John 1:1-3) Will "Sunday" be a part of that? Definitely; it already is. Many countries have "Blue Laws," and other cultural/religious practices that make life very difficult for those who want to keep the seventh-day Sabbath; and I am sure that the efforts of Vatican officials will eventually erupt into religious legislation. Its already in the process. Their doctrines support it very well. But regardless of our take on the "Sunday" thing; I think everyone could agree that Rev 3:10 is a warning about such legislation, on the international level. I believe that it may very well involve much more than just "Sunday."
  3. Jesus recognized the cleansing of the Temple by attending the Feast of the Dedication Himself. Jews at the time Jesus was walking around (& prior) believed the abomination of desolation was specifically Antiochus contaminating the temple by violating the worship ritual (that's how God was worshiped - a Liturgy of sorts).
  4. The Wanderer

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    IDT that I said anyone was "upset," at least I am not, unless you do something "wrong." I am just making note of what I have seen, and I was curious - thats the question that popped into my mind. I appreciate the spirit of your post, and the kind thoughts, and not having to be "right." My basic point in this regard is simply that we all like to think some things are important; but HOW important, is perhaps one of the questions that can be asked via a study into the "everlasting gospel?" Whatever we deem THAT to be must be very important to be called "everlasting?"
  5. Gregory Matthews

    It Is the Law, Do You Know It?

    The answer is: "b" In some places Carlos could vote in a local election, but he could not vote in every local election. However, under Federal law, Carlos could never do anything to influence an election, even in places where he could vote. Does that make sense. Well, the Ravi Singh litigation says it does not make sense and that litigation is attempting to have the Federal law declared unconstitutional. https://dockets.justia.com/docket/circuit-courts/ca11/16-11442 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravi_Singh_(businessman)
  6. JoeMo

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    Your question is valid; and my answer is that I repent of having been so strident. There is a difference between "knowing about" God and "knowing" God. I can "know about" God through Bible study, commentaries, sermons, and discussion groups like this; but I can only "know" God through a personal relationship with Him. That personal relationship is unique to every person. Just like my relationship with - say - Wanderer is different than that of - say - Greg Matthews. So, regardless of how strongly I feel about something, I cannot convince anyone of any of my "unique" points of theology. I've been on this forum for several years; and I doubt that I have changed anyone's mind about anything; and I have changed my mind about very few things that I have gleaned from others here. So why upset people by being so "strident"? I have no intention of leaving Adventistan; I am simply going to try to restrain myself from aggressively trying to prove my points on my personal take on points of "doctrine" at the possible expense of ruining relationships. I'd rather win the war than win an individual battle. I probably stated that poorly. By "we", I meant that it would be difficult for "us" to agree on all points about "knowing God" vs. "knowing about" God. People can't even seem to agree on what we "know about" God from reading scripture; how will we ever agree on "knowing God; when each of our relationships is unique to us? Titus 3:9 says: "But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain." I'm not saying these discussions are foolish; I am saying that for me, "strident" discussions about things that people have been stridently debating for centuries (like the Trinity) does not foster unity of the brothers and sisters.
  7. Gregory Matthews

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    Stensonmarri: I do not mind you asking questions and I will respond to them and possibly some others that you have not asked. * Yes, I have a MDiv. from the Seminary at Andrews University. * Yes, I passed the basic Greek and Hebrew requirements in order to obtain my degree. However, I do not consider myself to be an expert in any of the Biblical languages. I simply have a basic understanding of them which includes a knowledge of the basic scholarly books that scholars consider to be authoritative. * It is from this perspective that I would say that Young's and Strong's Concordance are authoritative for telling us how a Greek/Hebrew word has been translated into English in the KJV, but should never be used as an authoritative reference as to the meanings of those Biblical words. Probably the most common mistake that people make who have a limited understanding of the Biblical languages is to use Young's and Strong's as a lexicon (dictionary) to inform as to the meaning of those Biblical words. * Yes I know Barry Black. I have personally met him. But, I mostly know him by reputation. * As to the requirements to become a SDA ordained minister: My comments will generally apply to the North American Division. The requirements are not exactly the same in other Divisions and therefore what I say may not apply in other places. * In the NAD, the present , basic requirements to become an ordained SDA minister include having a MDiv. degree. However, on occasion, exceptions are made. In addition, there are SDA clergy who were ordained prior to the MDiv. becoming a requirement. Doug Batchelor is an example of a SDA clergyperson who lacks the MDiv. degree. I mention him as he is well known for that.
  8. dgrimm60

    3 minutes 28 seconds well spent.

    STAN this looks like a very good program====thank you for sharing it dgrimm60
  9. dgrimm60

    Trivia Quiz?

    PHKRAUSE the answer is ONO dgrimm60
  10. dgrimm60

    Trivia Quiz?

    PHKRAUSE the answer is THE CATCHER IN THE RYE dgrimm60
  11. phkrause

    NBA 2018/19 Season

    Standings Eastern Conference Atlantic W L Pct GB Home Div Conf Last 10 PF PA Diff Streak Toronto 21 6 .778 0.0 11-3 4-2 13-4 8-2 116.0 108.0 8.0 L-1 Philadelphia 18 9 .667 3.0 13-1 2-4 13-8 8-2 113.8 111.8 2.0 W-1 Boston 15 10 .600 5.0 7-3 4-2 11-5 6-4 110.3 102.9 7.4 W-5 Brooklyn 10 18 .357 11.5 4-10 4-2 8-7 2-8 108.7 110.6 -1.9 W-2 New York 8 19 .296 13.0 4-8 2-6 5-15 4-6 108.4 114.8 -6.4 L-3 Central W L Pct GB Home Div Conf Last 10 PF PA Diff Streak Milwaukee 16 8 .667 0.0 12-3 4-0 9-3 6-4 120.0 110.2 9.8 L-1 Indiana 16 10 .615 1.0 8-4 3-1 10-3 6-4 106.0 101.5 4.5 W-3 Detroit 13 10 .565 2.5 9-5 4-1 10-8 6-4 109.4 109.8 -0.4 L-3 Cleveland 6 20 .231 11.0 4-10 0-4 5-12 4-6 103.5 111.5 -8.0 W-1 Chicago 6 21 .222 11.5 4-10 1-6 4-12 2-8 102.3 113.0 -10.7 L-1 Southeast W L Pct GB Home Div Conf Last 10 PF PA Diff Streak Charlotte 12 13 .480 0.0 9-5 5-1 11-8 5-5 114.0 111.0 3.0 W-1 Orlando 12 14 .462 0.5 6-8 3-2 8-7 4-6 105.7 108.2 -2.5 L-2 Miami 11 14 .440 1.0 5-9 1-7 5-12 5-5 108.2 108.5 -0.3 W-2 Washington 11 15 .423 1.5 7-5 3-2 7-7 6-4 112.0 116.7 -4.7 L-1 Atlanta 6 20 .231 6.5 4-9 3-3 4-12 3-7 107.9 118.2 -10.3 W-1 Western Conference Pacific W L Pct GB Home Div Conf Last 10 PF PA Diff Streak Golden State 18 9 .667 0.0 11-2 2-1 8-6 6-4 116.4 110.6 5.8 W-3 LA Clippers 16 9 .640 1.0 9-2 3-0 11-6 6-4 115.6 112.6 3.0 L-2 LA Lakers 16 10 .615 1.5 10-4 3-0 12-7 7-3 113.3 111.1 2.2 W-1 Sacramento 13 12 .520 4.0 6-5 1-3 7-9 5-5 114.5 116.0 -1.5 L-1 Phoenix 4 22 .154 13.5 3-10 0-5 3-13 1-9 102.2 113.8 -11.6 L-8 Southwest W L Pct GB Home Div Conf Last 10 PF PA Diff Streak Memphis 15 10 .600 0.0 8-4 3-0 10-6 5-5 103.5 102.7 0.8 L-1 Dallas 13 11 .542 1.5 11-2 2-3 8-8 7-3 110.5 109.3 1.2 W-1 New Orleans 13 14 .481 3.0 10-4 3-2 7-9 3-7 118.1 115.9 2.2 L-1 San Antonio 12 14 .462 3.5 8-4 3-3 10-10 4-6 110.3 114.0 -3.7 W-1 Houston 11 14 .440 4.0 5-5 1-4 5-11 3-7 108.3 109.7 -1.4 L-3 Northwest W L Pct GB Home Div Conf Last 10 PF PA Diff Streak Oklahoma City 16 8 .667 0.0 9-3 0-1 7-6 7-3 111.1 104.4 6.7 L-1 Denver 17 9 .654 0.0 9-3 4-0 10-4 7-3 110.2 103.8 6.4 L-2 Portland 15 11 .577 2.0 10-4 2-2 8-8 4-6 112.3 110.4 1.9 W-2 Minnesota 13 13 .500 4.0 11-4 2-3 6-10 6-4 109.8 109.6 0.2 L-1 Utah 13 13 .500 4.0 4-6 0-2 9-8 5-5 107.4 107.2 0.2 W-2
  12. phkrause

    NBA 2018/19 Season

    Sat, Dec 8 Scores Houston Rockets 104 Dallas Mavericks 107 Sacramento Kings 97 Indiana Pacers 107 Denver Nuggets 98 Atlanta Hawks 106 Washington Wizards 101 Cleveland Cavaliers 116 Brooklyn Nets 112 New York Knicks 104 Boston Celtics 133 Chicago Bulls 77 Los Angeles Lakers 111 Memphis Grizzlies 88 Minnesota Timberwolves 105 Portland Trail Blazers 113 Miami Heat 121 Los Angeles Clippers 98
  13. phkrause

    NHL 2018/19 Season

    Sun, Dec 9 Schedule 3:00 PM EST Vancouver Canucks 12-16-3 St. Louis Blues 10-13-4 Philadelphia Flyers 12-12-3 Winnipeg Jets 17-9-2 5:00 PM EST Boston Bruins 15-10-4 Ottawa Senators 13-14-3 6:00 PM EST Montreal Canadiens 14-10-5 Chicago Blackhawks 9-16-5 8:00 PM EST New Jersey Devils 10-12-5 Anaheim Ducks 15-11-5 9:00 PM EST Calgary Flames 19-9-2 Edmonton Oilers 15-12-2 Dallas Stars 16-10-3 Vegas Golden Knights 16-14-1
  14. phkrause

    NHL 2018/19 Season

    Standings Eastern Conference Atlantic GP W L OTL Pts ROW GF GA Diff Home Road Last 10 Streak Tampa Bay 31 23 7 1 47 21 124 88 36 13-4-0 10-3-1 9-1-0 W-6 Toronto 30 20 9 1 41 20 109 84 25 9-5-1 11-4-0 6-3-1 L-2 Buffalo 30 17 9 4 38 14 91 88 3 9-3-2 8-6-2 5-3-2 L-5 Boston 29 15 10 4 34 14 79 75 4 10-3-0 5-7-4 5-4-1 W-1 Montreal 29 14 10 5 33 12 93 92 1 8-6-2 6-4-3 4-4-2 W-2 Detroit 30 13 13 4 30 11 88 100 -12 7-7-3 6-6-1 4-4-2 L-1 Ottawa 30 13 14 3 29 13 104 120 -16 10-5-2 3-9-1 4-6-0 W-1 Florida 28 11 11 6 28 10 93 101 -8 6-5-4 5-6-2 3-4-3 L-2 Metropolitan GP W L OTL Pts ROW GF GA Diff Home Road Last 10 Streak Washington 29 17 9 3 37 16 106 90 16 8-4-2 9-5-1 8-2-0 W-2 Columbus 29 16 11 2 34 16 100 99 1 7-6-1 9-5-1 5-5-0 L-1 NY Islanders 28 14 11 3 31 13 82 83 -1 7-4-2 7-7-1 4-5-1 W-1 NY Rangers 29 14 12 3 31 9 85 92 -7 10-4-1 4-8-2 5-4-1 W-1 Pittsburgh 28 12 10 6 30 12 96 91 5 7-6-2 5-4-4 5-2-3 L-1 Carolina 28 13 11 4 30 12 71 77 -6 7-4-3 6-7-1 5-4-1 W-1 Philadelphia 27 12 12 3 27 11 85 94 -9 5-7-2 7-5-1 3-5-2 W-1 New Jersey 27 10 12 5 25 10 81 94 -13 7-2-4 3-10-1 2-4-4 W-1 Western Conference Central GP W L OTL Pts ROW GF GA Diff Home Road Last 10 Streak Nashville 30 19 10 1 39 19 95 77 18 11-5-0 8-5-1 5-5-0 L-2 Colorado 30 17 8 5 39 17 108 88 20 6-2-3 11-6-2 7-2-1 L-1 Winnipeg 28 17 9 2 36 16 94 79 15 9-4-2 8-5-0 6-4-0 L-1 Dallas 29 16 10 3 35 16 81 74 7 10-3-1 6-7-2 6-3-1 W-4 Minnesota 29 15 12 2 32 15 88 87 1 8-4-2 7-8-0 3-7-0 L-2 St. Louis 27 10 13 4 24 10 77 88 -11 6-7-2 4-6-2 3-6-1 W-1 Chicago 30 9 16 5 23 9 82 112 -30 5-5-3 4-11-2 2-8-0 L-6 Pacific GP W L OTL Pts ROW GF GA Diff Home Road Last 10 Streak Calgary 30 19 9 2 40 19 107 84 23 10-3-2 9-6-0 8-1-1 W-5 San Jose 31 15 11 5 35 15 97 96 1 9-3-2 6-8-3 4-4-2 W-1 Anaheim 31 15 11 5 35 13 75 89 -14 8-4-5 7-7-0 7-2-1 L-1 Vegas 31 16 14 1 33 15 92 89 3 9-3-1 7-11-0 7-3-0 L-1 Edmonton 29 15 12 2 32 14 81 87 -6 8-4-1 7-8-1 6-3-1 W-2 Arizona 28 13 13 2 28 12 73 76 -3 6-8-1 7-5-1 4-5-1 L-2 Vancouver 31 12 16 3 27 11 89 108 -19 6-7-1 6-9-2 2-7-1 W-1 Los Angeles 30 11 18 1 23 10 67 91 -24 7-10-1 4-8-0 4-6-0 W-1
  15. phkrause

    NHL 2018/19 Season

    Sat, Dec 8 Scores Philadelphia Flyers 6 Buffalo Sabres 2 Vegas Golden Knights 1 Los Angeles Kings 5 Toronto Maple Leafs 3 Boston Bruins 6 New York Islanders 3 Detroit Red Wings 2 Pittsburgh Penguins 1 OT Ottawa Senators 2 Colorado Avalanche 1 Tampa Bay Lightning 7 New York Rangers 5(3) SO Florida Panthers 4(1) Washington Capitals 4 Columbus Blue Jackets 0 San Jose Sharks 5 Arizona Coyotes 3 Nashville Predators 2 Calgary Flames 5
  16. The Wanderer

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    Let us examine now; what exactly is it that is being, and will be "refused?" I dont expect anyone to use EGW writings if they do not want to. Your thoughts are whats important here. I dont profess to have all the answers, or to be an expert; which btw there is no such thing, when it comes to the scripture's message and gospel. I really only have one answer to this subject; and that answer is Jesus: The above quotes are from the OP of this topic. I have been asking the question that is trying to determine, as does scripture, exactly what it is that we are missing in our practice of The Three Angels Message? Christians need to think biblically and critically about the message they hear, and about the gospel that they preach. The "everlasting" gospel message is actually reflected upon, to one degree or another, all the way from Genesis to The Revelation. The "everlasting" gospel, because of the very use of this descriptor of "everlasting," has to be the same message, for all people, of all times. I hate to break it to you but there is no "special message" just for our church, or just for the other church down the road. No "special" message just for Ellen Whiters, no special message for Doom and Gloomers, no special message for "the watchmen." no special or separate message for the Warning Mongers; no special message for the ordinators, no special message for gays, no special message just for the Right Namers of Deity, not even a special message for the Peace and Safeties. No! Its just called "the everlasting" GOSPEL. Its for everyone, for all people, of all ages., "The everlasting gospel" is for all of the people groups I have named above, and for the entire rest of the world!! In this post; I propose that the "everlasting" gospel does not need a tune-up, a cover-up, a hiccup,, or sugar coat up , or a shut-up, or a hurry-up, or any other such things, for any reason. Old Testament and New Testament are completely united in their accounting of the "everlasting" gospel!" Prophecy knows neither haste, nor delay. The Bible prophecy of "the everlasting gospel" is the same for all people, from all ages. From Genesis to Rev, OT & NT are in complete unison on "the everlasting gospel!" This is why one of our great preachers once said: "The Book of Genesis is more up to date than next week's news!"
  17. The Wanderer

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    Stinson; you must be having nightmares. I have found this gentleman which you accuse to be a very reliable friend who has shown kindness to me. As I said before, several times, please show some respect and stick to the stated topic of the OP We literally do not care one bit about what you have to say as long as you insist on carting along all of these viscous disparagements.
  18. Gustave

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    I think that about covers it. Thanks.
  19. The Wanderer

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    In much of your posting on this particular subject matter; I have noticed rather strident attempts to distance people, (or maybe just yourself) from ever being able to really know much about God; and His nature. At the same time; I have noted your posting even more stridently, your distinctive views on “the trinity.” Makes one wonder if its not so important, as in not a matter of “salvation” (as you have stated before) then why all the efforts at trying to say your take on this? Saying we cannot know God, then telling us, in this way how that you know Him, (in this way), comes across as a glaring paradox, to put it nicely. Saying things such as “who are we to know God,” is paramount to a denial of basic scriptural injunctions that we are saved by knowing God. (John 17:3) Another concern about this type of thinking, such that we cannot know God, or at least, not very much about God, is to reduce Him to “the unknown God” that, in scripture; and especially in prophecy would never work. (Acts 17:23, 1 Cor 14:4) This topic, is dealing with “the everlasting gospel" message of Rev 14, and other (parenthetical/related subjects) to compare and contrast materials and knowledge that serve as ways to know the very things about God which you say cannot be known. The “voice in your head” telling you that “God’s ways are not our ways,” seems to have missed out on the correct balance/context for the entire and prophetic idea of knowing God. In fact; as mentioned above, there is so much in scripture that CAN and SHOULD be known about God in the pneumatic operation of ecclesial institutions, such as the Seventh-day Adventist Church, throughout history. HOW can we even talk about “prophecy,” and the "everlasting" ministry of The Paraclete without knowing God? "PROPHECY" is H.I.S. S.T.O.R.Y. I would also very much disagree with your idea of Isaiah 9:6 “only” containing “titles” of God. The verse starts out, literally saying: “His NAME shall be called…” As we can know from almost any book in the Bible; names/titles are the clearest indicators we have of the very presence and nature of God. No; I do not mean as in “the Substance” of God; but in verity, the “Nature” of God; and “Whom He has sent.” (see John 14:26, John 17:3). I would propose that names/titles can often be synonymous. One of the key things that usually goes missing in Bible prophecy, as it pertains to “the everlasting gospel” is quite simply just that! We keep trying to relegate this (because its prophecy) to something grand and amazing that God will sometime in the future make happen. And, of course, there may be a particle of truth in that, but why dont we try to figure out, first, why God is calling this the EVERLASTING gospel? Could this use of “everlasting” possibly denote, for example, the “everlasting covenant” which God has already instituted years ago: Could the use of “everlasting” (in Rev 14) also denote what is going to happen in the future, as we see in Rev 3:10). My understanding is that we have generally completely missed the boat on this Bible prophecy of the three angels message, because of our refusal to recognize this “everlasting” part of the prophecy. In summary; what is it thats "everlasting" about this "Three Angels Message?"
  20. stinsonmarri

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    I am sorry you are not commenting and I hope you will pray and study for yourself deeply Joe, will miss you!😥 Blessings!
  21. stinsonmarri

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    Well that's good to know, the pastor who shared this with me, I don't think he has his Master. I did not think to ask if that is taught on the Master level at Andrew. Do you mind me asking did you get your Master, I wanted to finish but I had to take care of my parents? Pastor do you know Barry Black we both attended Oakwood and came to Andrew and did the play Dr. Faustus, he played the role of Dr. Faustus! Blessings!
  22. stinsonmarri

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    Too all of the above, you won't! I am not here to prove to you where I live what I own and my credentials. You have to take it or leave it! If you leave it I am fine and then you will be fine and move on! I am not here to confront a person who is bent on negativeness. What I will do is pray for you and keep smiling!🤗 Blessings!
  23. B/W Photodude

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    ------------------->This was a most unfortunate posting.<--------------------- Maybe Lone Ranger just wasn't up to anymore discussion! Actually, some women who love dogs have no problem being referred by a female dog name. It is a rather usual term used around dogshows and dog people. You just have to know the situation. Oh dear! Maybe someone needs a safe space! Like you have no issues. Let me count the issues. Oh! I could be here awhile. I have no issues that "plague" me. Now, if you consider the kind and gentle treatment of children as opposed to killing and torturing them an issue, OK, I fess up. I really have seen no credentials to verify this historian status. (prior note noted) I had planned on no further discussion with you as I have serious doubts to your reliability on many issues.
  24. stinsonmarri

    Yet Another Prophecy Thread

    I attended University of Georgia and Georgia State where I graduated. Is there anything else you would like to know about my education. I planned to attend Hebrew University and I went to Israel and lived there a year. That was in 1982, Israel was having a financial crisis and Ronald Reagan/USA Congress bail them out! In order to get in the University I had to learn in depth Hebrew, but the Ulpan all over the country close down. However I continued to stay at the Kibbutz and became quite familiar with Jerusalem. I would have stayed even longer but two city buses I used blew up. I felt it was time to go home don't you think? Oh yeah I also specialize in Afrkan studies and and was working on my Master, I had to stopped to take care of both my parents. I hope that meets your satisfaction! Be bless!
  25. Here's a Jewish perspective https://weekly.israelbiblecenter.com/hanukkah-abomination-desolation/ Hanukkah and the Abomination of Desolation As Yeshua and his followers were leaving Jerusalem, his disciples marveled at the beauty of the Temple. Jesus responded, “Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down.” (Matt 24:2 NASB). How could Yeshua know that the Temple would be destroyed? In 167 BCE, the Seleucid ruler Antiochus IV began forcing the local population of Judea to abandon their ancestral ways and to worship pagan gods. The Seleucids defiled the Jerusalem Temple, robbed its treasures, and erected a statue of Zeus in the holy place (1 Macc 1:41-64). Many believe that the book of Daniel speaks of this horrific event when it states, “On the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate” (וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים מְשֹׁמֵם; Dan 9:27 NASB). In Hebrew, שִׁקּוּץ (shekutz) is something “impure”, “detestable” and “vile” that is often related to idols and the worship of foreign gods (cf. Deut 29:16; Isa 66:3; Zech 9:7; 1 Kgs 11:5; Nah 3:6). According to Daniel, this vile thing brings “destruction” and “desolation”; the Hebrew שָׁמֵם (shamem) carries an idea of “silence” and “quiet” because everything lies in ruin. Indeed, Jewish prayers in the holy place ceased when Antiochus desecrated it — no one sang or sounded the shofar in the Temple. In those days, a priestly group of Jews known as Maccabees fled to the mountains, revolted against the Seleucids, and fought the invaders for seven years. In 160 BCE they recaptured the Temple, cleansed it from defilement, and resumed sacrifices to Israel’s God (1 Macc 4:52). Today, we remember those events by celebrating Hanukkah (חֲנוּכָּה) the holiday of “dedication.” We light special multi-branched lamps to remember the miracles of those days. Yet while the Maccabees cleansed the Temple, they did not rid Israel of foreign influence. As the Seleucid Empire declined, Rome ascended as the world’s next great power. The Maccabees made a strategic alliance with the Romans, but eventually they would come to exercise the same kind of power over Israel that the Seleucids had before them. The buildings that impressed Jesus’ disciples so much were erected by Herod the Great, who began expanding the Jerusalem Temple complex in 20 BCE. He did no live to see its completion around 60 CE, and it would be destroyed by the Roman army just a decade later. Yeshua was right: the marvelous buildings would be toppled to the ground by Titus in 70 CE. Jesus warned his disciples, “when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place… flee to the mountains” (Matt 24:15-16). It seems that the words of Daniel were not just about the desolation of Antiochus in the Maccabean era. Yeshua foresaw the greater desolation of Titus in the Roman period. Sometimes history repeats itself! In every generation there are those who seek to ruin, and attempt to lay waste the holy things of God. But the spirit of holiness that once burned in the Maccabees continues to burn in the hearts of many Jews who light the Hanukkah lamps today. Whatever the future may hold, with or without the Temple, the people and Land of Israel remain, and God continues to work among his children.
  26. phkrause

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