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  1. 3 points
    B/W Photodude

    Who's fooling who?

    Quite the strange post. Acknowledgement of errors past and then we refuse to "see" the correct positions. Wonder why?! And then the "I have taught". Exactly who made you the teacher of correct positions and determined that everyone else should follow you? If you had a few followers in real life, you could almost be a cult leader! So, thank-you, but I do not think I need to seriously study your positions on Bible prophecy. I have quite a bit of other things to study like the Bible, EGW, and other theologians in the church. Seriously, in the words of one pastor, "Repent immediately!" (One of my most favorite preachers ever in the current days.)
  2. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Pope Francis 2020 plan is to rally Nations behind Climate change and Sunday law

    I am not an expert in either the Geek, or Hebrew languages of the Bible. I have some knowledge, but it is limited. The following website addresses that issue that I mentioned and does it better that I did. https://www.gotquestions.org/genesis-days.html NOTE: The above website provides additional sources of information that are helpful. It may be asked as to whether or not the above website is a SDA website. Due to the fact that it clearly states that the SDA practice related to Sabbath keeping is not a Christian practice today I do not believe that it is a SDA website.
  3. 2 points
    JoeMo

    New Year Resolutions

    Thought it might be kinda fun to share at least one New Year Resolution with each other. So here's mine: I resolve to love more - to focus on relationships rather than doctrine, politics, or being "right" all the time. Relationships with God, my wife, my kids, my grandkids, my siblings and my friends (and enemies) inside and outside the body of Christ. What are some of yours?
  4. 2 points
    phkrause

    New Year Resolutions

    I tried posting the actual video of this the other day, I believe yesterday, but couldn't without posting my whole email list!! Anyway lets see if I can remember what I posted with it?? I'm not really into New Years Resolutions, but this is what my feelings have been about this subject. I know this is the your thoughts forum so don't be to mad that I'm actually someone else's thoughts even though my thoughts actually are the same. With the video it was much better. Anyway here it is: A COVENANT FOR WANDERERS (January 3, 2020) Make covenants, not resolutions, as you walk into the year, for covenants give us company in keeping what we pledge. A resolution with no witness is too often just a wish, a good intention with nothing but our declining willpower to make the vital difference. The covenants we really need are bigger than our diets and more urgent than our visits to the gym. We need companions to whom we’ll make the most important promises of all: to tell each other just the truth; to remind each other of how good the gospel is; to continue walking side by side through any guilt or fear the new year brings. Agree with someone in your life—a spouse, a friend, another sinner saved by grace—with whom you’ll travel in days ahead—by phone, by app, by real steps on real roads. Pledge perseverance, not perfection, for walking with another sinner will reveal how much you both need constant grace. And when you stumble, as you will, a hand will lift you up, and brush you off, and help you keep on walking. As this year starts, invite some other to what Jesus now invites you: “Come walk with me: keep covenant.” That’s how you’ll stay in grace. -Bill Knott ps: I just notice that this is Bill Knots thoughts, the video really doesn't tell you this.
  5. 2 points
    james423

    Lesson 2 - From Jerusalem to Babylon

    Overall Question: How the years before they entered the king's service prepare the Hebrews to serve the Lord in the king's court? Memory Text: Daniel 1:17 Good News Translation God gave the four young men knowledge and skill in literature and philosophy. In addition, he gave Daniel skill in interpreting visions and dreams. Sunday – God’s Sovereignty 2 Kings 21:10-16 New International Reader’s Version 10 The Lord spoke through his servants the prophets. He said, 11 “Manasseh, the king of Judah, has committed terrible sins. I hate them. Manasseh has done more evil things than the Amorites who were in the land before him. And he has led Judah to commit sin by worshiping his statues of gods. 12 I am the Lord, the God of Israel. I tell you, ‘I am going to bring trouble on Jerusalem and Judah. It will be so horrible that the ears of everyone who hears about it will tingle. 13 I will measure out punishment against Jerusalem, just as I did against Samaria. I used a plumb line against the royal family of Ahab. I used it to prove that they did not measure up to my standards. I will use the same plumb line against Jerusalem. I will wipe out Jerusalem, just as someone wipes a dish. I will wipe it and turn it upside down. 14 I will desert those who remain among my people. I will hand them over to their enemies. All their enemies will rob them. 15 That’s because my people have done what is evil in my sight. They have made me very angry. They have done that from the day their own people came out of Egypt until this day.’ ” 16 Manasseh also spilled the blood of many people who weren’t guilty of doing anything wrong. He spilled so much blood that he filled Jerusalem with it from one end of the city to the other. And he caused Judah to commit sin. So they also did what was evil in the eyes of the Lord. 2 Kings 24:18-20 New International Version 8 Zedekiah was twenty-one years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem eleven years. His mother’s name was Hamutal daughter of Jeremiah; she was from Libnah. 19 He did evil in the eyes of the Lord, just as Jehoiakim had done. 20 It was because of the Lord’s anger that all this happened to Jerusalem and Judah, and in the end he thrust them from his presence. Jeremiah 3:13 Holman Christian Standard Bible Only acknowledge your guilt— you have rebelled against the Lord your God.You have scattered your favors to strangers under every green tree and have not obeyed My voice. This is the Lord’s declaration. Jeremiah 3:13 COMMENTARY GENEVA BIBLE NOTES There was no way which you did not hunt to seek after the idols, and to go on a pilgrimage. Monday – Faith Under Pressure Daniel 1 New Century Version 1 During the third year that Jehoiakim was king of Judah, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came to Jerusalem and surrounded it with his army. 2 The Lord allowed Nebuchadnezzar to capture Jehoiakim king of Judah. Nebuchadnezzar also took some of the things from the Temple of God, which he carried to Babylonia and put in the temple of his gods. 3 Then King Nebuchadnezzar ordered Ashpenaz, his chief officer, to bring some of the men of Judah into his palace. He wanted them to be from important families, including the family of the king of Judah. 4 King Nebuchadnezzar wanted only young Israelite men who had nothing wrong with them. They were to be handsome and well educated, capable of learning and understanding, and able to serve in his palace. Ashpenaz was to teach them the language and writings of the Babylonians. 5 The king gave the young men a certain amount of food and wine every day, just like the food he ate. The young men were to be trained for three years, and then they would become servants of the king of Babylon. 6 Among those young men were Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah from the people of Judah.7 Ashpenaz, the chief officer, gave them Babylonian names. Daniel’s new name was Belteshazzar, Hananiah’s was Shadrach, Mishael’s was Meshach, and Azariah’s was Abednego.8 Daniel decided not to eat the king’s food or drink his wine because that would make him unclean. So he asked Ashpenaz for permission not to make himself unclean in this way.9 God made Ashpenaz, the chief officer, want to be kind and merciful to Daniel, 10 but Ashpenaz said to Daniel, “I am afraid of my master, the king. He ordered me to give you this food and drink. If you begin to look worse than other young men your age, the king will see this. Then he will cut off my head because of you.”11 Ashpenaz had ordered a guard to watch Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. 12 Daniel said to the guard, “Please give us this test for ten days: Don’t give us anything but vegetables to eat and water to drink. 13 After ten days compare how we look with how the other young men look who eat the king’s food. See for yourself and then decide how you want to treat us, your servants.” 14 So the guard agreed to test them for ten days. 15 After ten days they looked healthier and better fed than all the young men who ate the king’s food. 16 So the guard took away the king’s special food and wine, feeding them vegetables instead.17 God gave these four young men wisdom and the ability to learn many things that people had written and studied. Daniel could also understand visions and dreams.18 At the end of the time set for them by the king, Ashpenaz brought all the young men to King Nebuchadnezzar. 19 The king talked to them and found that none of the young men were as good as Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. So those four young men became the king’s servants. 20 Every time the king asked them about something important, they showed much wisdom and understanding. They were ten times better than all the fortune-tellers and magicians in his kingdom! 21 So Daniel continued to be the king’s servant until the first year Cyrus was king. Daniel 1:20 COMMENTARY JOHN WESLEY NOTES This is a farther confirmation of the king's noble endowments, and of his great care whom he chose to be in offices of trust, namely persons excellently qualified to serve him in the great affairs of the kingdom. And thus did God pour contempt upon the pride of the Chaldeans, and put honour on the low estate of his people. Tuesday – Firm Resolution Daniel 1:7-20 Contemporary English Version 7 But the king’s chief official gave them Babylonian names: Daniel became Belteshazzar, Hananiah became Shadrach, Mishael became Meshach, and Azariah became Abednego. 8 Daniel made up his mind to eat and drink only what God had approved for his people to eat. And he asked the king’s chief official for permission not to eat the food and wine served in the royal palace. 9 God had made the official friendly and kind to Daniel. 10 But the man still told him, “The king has decided what you must eat and drink. And I am afraid he will kill me, if you eat something else and end up looking worse than the other young men.” 11 The king’s official had put a guard in charge of Daniel and his three friends. So Daniel said to the guard, 12 “For the next ten days, let us have only vegetables and water at mealtime. 13 When the ten days are up, compare how we look with the other young men, and decide what to do with us.” 14 The guard agreed to do what Daniel had asked. 15 Ten days later, Daniel and his friends looked healthier and better than the young men who had been served food from the royal palace. 16 After this, the guard let them eat vegetables instead of the rich food and wine. 17 God made the four young men smart and wise. They read a lot of books and became well educated. Daniel could also tell the meaning of dreams and visions. 18 At the end of the three-year period set by King Nebuchadnezzar, his chief palace official brought all the young men to him. 19 The king interviewed them and discovered that none of the others were as outstanding as Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. So they were given positions in the royal court. 20 From then on, whenever the king asked for advice, he found their wisdom was ten times better than that of any of his other advisors and magicians. Daniel 1:8 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY There were several reasons why a pious Jew would avoid eating of the royal food: (1) the Babylonians, like other pagan nations, ate unclean meats; (2) the beasts had not been properly killed according to Levitical law (Lev. 17:14, 15); (3) a portion of the animals eaten was first offered as a sacrifice to pagan gods; (4) the use of luxurious and unhealthful food and drink was contrary to strict principles of temperance; (5) for Daniel and his friends there was the added desire to avoid a flesh-food diet. The Hebrew youth determined to do nothing that would interfere with physical, mental, and spiritual development. Daniel 1:12 SDA BIBLE COMMMENTARY This seems a short period of time in which to produce any appreciable change in appearance and physical vigor. But habits of strict temperance had already provided Daniel and his companions with fundamentally sound constitutions (see PK 482) that responded to the benefits of a proper diet. Their recuperation from the rigors of the long march from Judea was, without doubt, more pronounced than that of other captives who had not already formed abstemious habits. Now, in the case of Daniel and his three companions, divine power was united with human effort, and the result was truly remarkable. Wednesday – Unblemished and Wise Galatians 2:19-20 Modern English Version 9 For through the law I am dead to the law, that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself for me. Matthew 16:24-26 Contemporary English Version Then Jesus said to his disciples: If any of you want to be my followers, you must forget about yourself. You must take up your cross and follow me. 25 If you want to save your life, you will destroy it. But if you give up your life for me, you will find it. 26 What will you gain, if you own the whole world but destroy yourself? What would you give to get back your soul? 2 Corinthians 4:17 Common English Bible Our temporary minor problems are producing an eternal stockpile of glory for us that is beyond all comparison. Thursday – Final Exam Daniel 1:17-21 New Living Translation 17 God gave these four young men an unusual aptitude for understanding every aspect of literature and wisdom. And God gave Daniel the special ability to interpret the meanings of visions and dreams. 18 When the training period ordered by the king was completed, the chief of staff brought all the young men to King Nebuchadnezzar. 19 The king talked with them, and no one impressed him as much as Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. So they entered the royal service. 20 Whenever the king consulted them in any matter requiring wisdom and balanced judgment, he found them ten times more capable than any of the magicians and enchanters in his entire kingdom. 21 Daniel remained in the royal service until the first year of the reign of King Cyrus. Job 38:36 New English Translation Who has put wisdom in the heart, or has imparted understanding to the mind? James 1:5 Christian Standard Bible Now if any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God—who gives to all generously and ungrudgingly—and it will be given to him. James 1:5 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Wisdom helps us to place a proper value on everything that competes for our attention, and ensures the proper use of knowledge as we seek for right action.
  6. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Parking Lot TAx

    For SDA involvement see: https://catholicphilly.com/2019/12/news/national-news/faith-leaders-nonprofit-groups-hail-house-repeal-of-parking-lot-tax/
  7. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Two Second Comings?

    This post was especially annoying. And like they say ... "and she persisted." You make a lot of prejudgements regarding what I write. I really don't find much difference in prejudging some one and racism, it is just more hidden. Many people do not even know who their great grandparents were and can only guess where their ancestry is from. Part of why people are so into dna charts showing where their ancestors are from. And Alex Haley did a good job with his ancestry, A lot of kids today do not even know who their daddy is and neither do their mommas! The Maury Povich Show demonstrates that all the time! I don't spend a lot of time speculating on what color Jesus or Moses were. Sometimes you have to get past skin color. I have written before here and elsewhere on the irrelevance of skin color to anything when it comes to spiritual and/or religious situations. The only people who really need to consider skin color are photographers. So, ask a photographer what the difference between a black person and a white person and they might say "2 f-stops." Well, when you have an agenda to grind, whatever drives you affects your conclusions. For instance, if I were reading Aryan nations literature, they may have very interesting ideas regarding where different nations originated. However, because of their expressed hatred for others, I can't take their history as being reliable. They are revising history to suit their purposes. I tend to see you in the same position. You are somewhat obsessed with skin color and spelling of names of which few others use, so I have to disregard anything you have to say regarding history. Having degrees in history does not really make you right. There are any number of others out there with impressive academic credentials but with questionable ethics behind their reasoning. You will find people all the time trying to revise history to fit their agendas. And people even try to revise biblical history. (The problem with me!) I used that story to illustrate a point that some are using ridiculous situations to pull out the race care. It was an example of how I was faced with this kind of behavior. And "evil that has been done to people of color"? You can find tons of examples all over the world where evil has been done to every color there is by every color there is. People do it across color lines and they even do it within color lines. The Hutus and the Tutsis did enormous damage to each other in the Rwandan massacres. And of course, Germans did enormous injury to people of like color be they Jews, Christians, gays, invalid, or just "lives not worthy of living." I think you really are too judgemental regarding others to really be dealing with reality and facts. Reality is easily distorted by personal agenda.
  8. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Adventism in Africa

    For a challenge,see: https://atoday.org/how-missionaries-shaped-african-adventism/
  9. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Who's fooling who?

    I think we are playing some semantical word games here regarding that prophet thing. What was a prophet anyway but a messenger? And what prophet ever called himself a prophet?
  10. 2 points
    james423

    Lesson 1 - From Reading to Understanding

    Overall Question: what are some things you need to keep in mind as you study the book of Daniel? Memory Text: Acts 8:30 God’s WORD Translation Philip ran to the carriage and could hear the official reading the prophet Isaiah out loud. Philip asked him, “Do you understand what you’re reading?” Sunday – Christ: The Center of Daniel Luke 24:25-27 Contemporary English Version 25 Then Jesus asked the two disciples, “Why can’t you understand? How can you be so slow to believe all that the prophets said? 26 Didn’t you know that the Messiah would have to suffer before he was given his glory?” 27 Jesus then explained everything written about himself in the Scriptures, beginning with the Law of Moses and the Books of the Prophets. John 5:39 Good News Translation You study the Scriptures, because you think that in them you will find eternal life. And these very Scriptures speak about me! 2 Corinthians 1:19-20 New Living Translation 9 For Jesus Christ, the Son of God, does not waver between “Yes” and “No.” He is the one whom Silas, Timothy, and I preached to you, and as God’s ultimate “Yes,” he always does what he says. 20 For all of God’s promises have been fulfilled in Christ with a resounding “Yes!” And through Christ, our “Amen” (which means “Yes”) ascends to God for his glory. Monday – The Structure of Daniel Daniel 2:44 New English Translation In the days of those kings the God of heaven will raise up an everlasting kingdom that will not be destroyed and a kingdom that will not be left to another people. It will break in pieces and bring about the demise of all these kingdoms. But it will stand forever. Psalm 9:7-12 Modern English Version. But the Lord remains forever; He has established His throne for judgment. 8 He will judge the world in righteousness; He will give judgment to the peoples in uprightness. 9 The Lord also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble. 10 Those who know Your name will put their trust in You, for You, Lord, have not forsaken those who seek You. 11 Sing praises to the Lord who dwells in Zion; declare His deeds among the people. 12 He who avenges deaths remembers them; He does not forget the cry of the humble. 2 Peter 3:11-13 New Century Version 11 In that way everything will be destroyed. So what kind of people should you be? You should live holy lives and serve God, 12 as you wait for and look forward to the coming of the day of God. When that day comes, the skies will be destroyed with fire, and everything in them will melt with heat. 13 But God made a promise to us, and we are waiting for a new heaven and a new earth where goodness lives. Tuesday – Apocalyptic Prophecies in Daniel Jonah 3:3-10 Common English Bible 3 And Jonah got up and went to Nineveh, according to the Lord’s word. (Now Nineveh was indeed an enormous city, a three days’ walk across.) 4 Jonah started into the city, walking one day, and he cried out, “Just forty days more and Nineveh will be overthrown!” 5 And the people of Nineveh believed God. They proclaimed a fast and put on mourning clothes, from the greatest of them to the least significant. 6 When word of it reached the king of Nineveh, he got up from his throne, stripped himself of his robe, covered himself with mourning clothes, and sat in ashes. 7 Then he announced, “In Nineveh, by decree of the king and his officials: Neither human nor animal, cattle nor flock, will taste anything! No grazing and no drinking water! 8 Let humans and animals alike put on mourning clothes, and let them call upon God forcefully! And let all persons stop their evil behavior and the violence that’s under their control!” 9 He thought, Who knows? God may see this and turn from his wrath, so that we might not perish.10 God saw what they were doing—that they had ceased their evil behavior. So God stopped planning to destroy them, and he didn’t do it. Daniel 7:6 Lexham English Bible After this I was watching and look, another beast like a leopard; it had four wings of a bird on its back, and the beast had four heads, and dominion was given to it. Hosea 3:4-5 New International Reader’s Version 4 So the people of Israel will live for a long time without a king or prince. They won’t have sacrifices or sacred stones. They won’t have sacred linen aprons or statues of family gods. 5 After that, the people of Israel will return to the Lord their God. They will look to him and to a king from the family line of David. In the last days, they will tremble with fear as they come to the Lord. And they will receive his full blessing. Amos 8:11 English Standard Version Behold, the days are coming,” declares the Lord God, “when I will send a famine on the land—not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord. Zechariah 9:11 English Standard Version As for you also, because of the blood of my covenant with you, I will set your prisoners free from the waterless pit. Zechariah 14 :4 New International Version On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. Wednesday – God’s Timescale Numbers 14:34 Holman Christian Standard Bible You will bear the consequences of your sins 40 years based on the number of the 40 days that you scouted the land, a year for each day. You will know My displeasure. Ezekiel 4:5-6 New Century Version 5 I have given you the same number of days as the years of the people’s sin. So you will have the guilt of Israel’s sin on you for three hundred ninety days. 6 “After you have finished these three hundred ninety days, lie down a second time, on your right side. You will then have the guilt of Judah on you. I will give it to you for forty days, a day for each year of their sin. Thursday – Contemporary Relevance of Daniel Daniel 9:23 New Living Translation The moment you began praying, a command was given. And now I am here to tell you what it was, for you are very precious to God. Listen carefully so that you can understand the meaning of your vision. Daniel 10:11-12 New International Version 11 He said, “Daniel, you who are highly esteemed, consider carefully the words I am about to speak to you, and stand up, for I have now been sent to you.” And when he said this to me, I stood up trembling. 12 Then he continued, “Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them. Matthew 10:29-31 Good News Translation 29 For only a penny you can buy two sparrows, yet not one sparrow falls to the ground without your Father's consent. 30 As for you, even the hairs of your head have all been counted. 31 So do not be afraid; you are worth much more than many sparrows!
  11. 2 points
    stinsonmarri

    Two Second Comings?

    Joe: Also, everyone else I do owe Joe an apology. After going back over Dr. Heiser's writing I feel he had lead me and other to a false conclusion. He does believe in some type of angels mix with human beings. I also, now understand and totally agree with Blessed man. Dr. Heiser had this person to believe just like I did that he did not believe in this myth. In Genesis, chapter six, the account of Noah and the flood includes a Hebrew word that is erroneously translated as “giant.” Strong’s Greek dictionary shows that the word actually means “properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant.” “Feller” is an older language word derived from the word “fell,” which is defined: “Cruel; barbarous; inhuman,” according to Webster’s 1828 dictionary. Mike Heiser’s web sites and blogs are worthy of time spent reading and following the blog comments as he interacts with visitors, telling in a very authoritative yet gentle manner the truth as found in the ancients scripts. One question I have not yet found an answer to is this: The Nephilim would have been destroyed in the flood, so where did the other giants come from in the rest of the Old Testament? It would seem, from Dr. Heiser’s writings that the Nephilim would not have been anything other than very tall men--possibly not much taller than some of our tall men today. But from the descriptions of other giants in post-flood accounts, they were much larger. As can be seen, the true definition of the Hebrew word “nephı̂yl nephil” is far from what many are saying in these days, and especially as the end times progress, with more and more evil manifesting everywhere. Countless numbers of people, even respected ministers, are promoting a doctrine that says the Nephilim are “fallen angels,” and that they co-habit with human females to produce evil offspring. There are wildly unusual tales of aliens, all because of the error in translation from the ancient languages, as can be seen in the above PDF from Dr. Michael Heiser’s web site. The man of flesh is fully capable of being evil on his own, without some fallen angel ‘fathering’ him. We need only remember the words God spoke to Noah: "My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh." (Gen. 6:3) And then, as Paul told Timothy, “Yea, and all that would live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.” (2 Timothy 3:12-13 RV). Yes, Satan sends his demons to deceive those especially that are attempting to be “godly” in their own strength, not realizing they are still entrenched in self and flesh. They are ripe for deception, and can quickly become the “deceiving and being deceived.” They are very dangerous, and will lead many astray, while, at the same time, persecuting those who truly walk in Truth. Jezebel in particular is very active as the Second Coming draws nearer. As we see “evil flesh” increasing in number around the world, we must remember Jesus’ words. He said that the time of His Coming would be as in the days of Noah, with everyone carrying on with life as usual, seemingly complacent, even in the midst of what is coming upon them. We must also remember that in Noah’s day “God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” (Gen. 6:5). And so it is today. Of the above two described types of “evil,” the most dangerous one is the “religious” one who is deceived and deceiving others--the reason being that the soul is at risk, while those who are “only evil continually” can destroy only the body of a true and faithful follower of Jesus Christ. The following are the Hebrew words that were translated “giant,” including all the verses in which the words appeared. Both Strong’s and Brown-Driver-Briggs’ dictionaries have mistakenly shown the root word as “nâphal.” (See Dr. Heiser’s PDF on “nephilim”). 3 First, we have the definitions as they appear in the Hebrew dictionaries, and then the quoted passages following each definition shown at the beginning of the quotes. 1. Hebrew #5303 נפל נפיל nephı̂yl nephil (nef-eel', nef-eel') Strong’s Definition: “properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant” Translated: “giant” Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Definition: 1) giants, the Nephilim 2. Hebrew #7497 רפה / רפא râphâ'râphâh (raw-faw', raw-faw') Strong’s Definition: “a giant” Translated: “giant, Rapha, Rephaim (-s)” Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Definition: 1) giants, Rephaim 1a) old tribe of giants Part of Speech: noun proper, of tribe, gentilic 1. Hebrew #5303 נפל נפיל nephı̂yl nephil (nef-eel', nef-eel') Strong’s Definition: “properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant” Translated: “giant” 4 - The word “giants” was used by the KJV translators in these two verses. Other versions use the word “nephilim” in translation. Genesis 6:4: “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” (KJV) Note: The above verse has led to a lot of speculation and resulting strange doctrines, with varying beliefs as to who the “sons of God” and “daughters of men” actually were. Numbers 13:33: “And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.” Note: It would almost appear that the translators inserted the wrong Hebrew word in the above verse, rather than the one in this next definition. (Just a thought). 2. Hebrew #7497 רפה / רפא râphâ râphâh raw-faw', raw-faw' Strong’s Definition: “a giant” Translated: “giant, Rapha, Rephaim (-s)” Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Definition: 1) giants, Rephaim 1a) old tribe of giants Part of Speech: noun proper, of tribe, gentilic - The following quotes contain the word “giant(-s).” 2 Samuel 21:16, 18, 20, 22: “And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David. . . . And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant. . . . And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. . . . These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.” 1 Chronicles 20:4, 6, 8: “And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued. . . . And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant. . . . These were born unto the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.” Deuteronomy 2:11, 20: “Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims. (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;” Deuteronomy 3:11, 13: “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man. And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.” Note: A cubit = 17-22 inches. Using the average cubit length of 20, and multiply by 9 cubits, we arrive at a length of 15 feet for the bed of the giant. Using the same method of calculation, it was more than 6 feet wide! Joshua 12:4: “And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,” Joshua 13:12: “All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.” Joshua 15:8: “And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:” Joshua 17:15: “And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee.” Joshua 18:16: “And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,” The word “rephaim(s)” is used in the following passages. 2 Samuel 5:18, 22: “The Philistines also came and spread themselves in the valley of Rephaim. . . . And the Philistines came up yet again, and spread themselves in the valley of Rephaim.” 2 Samuel 23:13: “And three of the thirty chief went down, and came to David in the harvest time unto the cave of Adullam: and the troop of the Philistines pitched in the valley of Rephaim.” 1 Chronicles 11:15: “Now three of the thirty captains went down to the rock to David, into the cave of Adullam; and the host of the Philistines encamped in the valley of Rephaim.” 1 Chronicles 14:9: “And the Philistines came and spread themselves in the valley of Rephaim.” Isaiah 17:5: “And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.” Genesis 14:5: “And in the fourteenth year came Chedorlaomer, and the kings that were with him, and smote the Rephaims in Ashteroth Karnaim, and the Zuzims in Ham, and the Emims in Shaveh Kiriathaim,” Genesis 15:(18-19&)20 (&21): “In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.” Compilation and commentary by Stella Paterson; January 2013 (Amended February 2, 2013) I read only part, but now I have read the whole thing and I cannot believe that this amendment came to the same conclusion that I did. So what I wrote earlier, I did on my own except the original quotes. I went online to see if their were other scholars that might have a problem with the word like I have. I knew Dr. Heiser was very prominent in the Hebrew language and known in another publication I have, The Biblical Archealogy Magazine and Library. Dr. Heiser have the story so twisted with both Babylonian and Assyrian myth atempting to incoporate it into Bible truth. Truth and lie does not mix! He does not believe in a worldwide flood and that angels have organs to procreate is totally a lie! Look at how they are created and that I cannot apologize! But when, I state something wrong I will say I made a mistake and ask for forgiveness! Blessings!
  12. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    When will Iran attack our (US) fleet?

    For some reason, when I saw the above photo of someone boiling eggs, I thought of HCH. So, here it is.
  13. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Rementantville

    See: https://atoday.org/the-bumpy-road-to-remnantville/
  14. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Probably Didn't Know About Bruce Springsteen_2 On January 5, 1973, Bruce Springsteen's debut album, "Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.," was released to the delight of music lovers all over the country. Here are 5 things you probably didn't know about “The Boss.”... He Won Both an Oscar And a Golden Globe Rock stars usually don’t win either of the above awards and actors seldom do, so these are major achievements for Springsteen. In 1994, he won ‘Best Song Oscar’ for “Streets of Philadelphia” from the movie Philadelphia, which starred Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington. He won the Golden Globe for the title song “The Wrestler,” the sports drama starring Mickey Rourke. He Invaded Graceland to Meet Elvis At the peak of his career, Elvis Presley had grown to be a favorite among many fans. Many people had tried to hop over the wall into his Graceland home to meet him, but very few are as famous as Bruce Springsteen. Bruce tried to make his way into the compound in 1976 to meet his hero, but was met with security who informed him that Elvis was not in town. His Only #1 Track Occurred When Another Band Covered Him At the top of his game, during the 70s and 80s, Springsteen was a force to be reckoned with. However, he never could quite clench the #1 spot on the Billboard Hot 100. His best performance on the chart was in 1984 when his hit track “Dancing In The Dark” clocked in at #2. Ironically, when Mannfed Mann’s Earth Band did a Springsteen cover of “Blinded By the Light,” which was the opening track of his debut album “Greeting From Ashbury Park, N.J,” it actually hit the number #1 spot in 1977. Until now, the song remains the biggest hit of the band. When he appeared on VH1’s Storytellers in 2005, Springsteen acknowledge how interesting it was that his only number one hit actually came from someone else’s version of his song. Springsteen Was Turned Down for Service in the Military Springsteen received his draft notice at age 19 and reported for his induction. However, he failed the physical because of a head injury he had suffered at age 17 in a motorcycle accident. He admitted to Rolling Stone magazine that he acted crazy at the induction and that, in addition to the previous head injury, caused the military to classify him as 4-F. That ensured he never served in Vietnam. The Origin of His Famous Nickname Most people tend to refer to Bruce Springsteen simply as “The Boss.” However, very few are familiar with the origin of this nickname, let alone the fact that he didn’t like the name in the first place and had to warm to it with time. Springsteen actually got the nickname during his club days, long before he gained the status of a big recording superstar. He was given the responsibility of collecting the band’s compensation from club owners and dispensing it among the other members of the band afterwards. He disliked the term “the Boss” due to his disgust for bosses, and while he had to get used to it sooner rather than later, the nickname never subsided.
  15. 1 point
    stinsonmarri

    Two Second Comings?

    Typical you, now you have demoted yourself to name calling. This is exactly what I am referring to! So out of character with YAHWEH! Now, you can see how prejudice work! What next Photodude let's see who you really are! You cannot address the truth, so you react to this! Sad! I truly feel sorry for you!
  16. 1 point
    JoeMo

    Two Second Comings?

    I don't think anyone here is showing racism against anyone else. Frankly, I don't care what "color" Canaanites, Israelites, Jesus, or the apostles were. They were humans. The only thing that concerns me is that Jesus is Lord and Savior; and His disciples established the Church. Marrian, you live in a part of the country where racism was (maybe still is) rampant. Your experience defines who you are and how you think. Just because we haven't walked in your shoes doesn't mean we are racist. Arguably we may be ignorant of how racism impacted (or may still impact) your life; but that does not make us racist. Once again, I ask that this thread not be turned unto a racist rant, but that it stay centered on Christ. If you want to start a thread on racial relations, start it somewhere else. This is a theological town hall; not a race relations town hall.
  17. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About "Peanuts" _3 The last daily "Peanuts" comic strip by Charles Schulz ran on January 3, 2000. Many of the 2,600 newspapers that carried Peanuts ran the farewell strip on their front page. Here are five things you didn't know about one of the most popular and influential comic strips of all time... The Comic Strip Had Bad Ratings at First The comic strip “Peanuts” appeared in seven newspapers in October 1950, and by the time its first year in publication ended, it was listed as last in reader survey popularity. The comic strip ended up having syndication in more than 2,600 newspapers and was read in 75 countries by more than 350 million fans. Its popularity spun off “Peanuts” merchandise that ranged from stuffed toys to pajamas and greeting cards, which are still popular today. Snoopy Wasn’t the Only Puppy in the Litter Spike, Snoopy’s brother, appeared in the comic strip in 1975 and was named after a dog Charles Schulz had as a child. Snoopy had six other siblings named Molly and Belle, Marbles, Andy, Olaf, and Rover. Charlie Brown was Snoopy’s second owner since the little girl who originally adopted the cute beagle had to return him to the puppy farm because she couldn’t keep him. Many of The Peanuts Characters Were Inspired by Real People and Events Charlie Brown was named after a friend Schulz had when he was in Minneapolis attending art classes. Schulz loosely based Snoopy on a black-and-white dog named Spike he had as a teenager. The cartoonist originally planned to call his cartoon dog Sniffy, but shortly before the comic strip launched Schulz learned there was a comic magazine featuring a dog with the same name. Now in need of a new name, Schulz remembered his mother’s suggestion that the family should name their next dog “Snoopy.” Another character, a yellow bird called Woodstock, was named for the 1969 landmark music festival. A Reader Suggested Adding a Black Character A Los Angeles schoolteacher named Harriet Glickman wrote to Schulz shortly after the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., urging him to introduce a black character into Peanuts. This began a correspondence between Schulz and Glickman that led to Schulz's creation of Franklin. Introduced on July 31, 1968, Franklin was the first African American character in the strip. In his first story arc, he met Charlie Brown when they were both at the beach. His last appearance was in 1999, the year before Schulz's death. Schulz Died the Night Before His Last Sunday Strip Ran On February 12, 2000, the 77-year-old cartoonist died at his home in Santa Rosa, California, the day before his last Sunday Peanuts strip appeared in newspapers. Schulz had stipulated in his syndicate contract that no one else could take over the comic strip he’d drawn for nearly half a century. In all, Schulz produced 17,897 Peanuts strips: 15,391 daily strips and 2,506 Sunday strips.
  18. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    💕 Together with Christ Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 💕
  19. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    Two Second Comings?

    There is a lot of this kind of thing online now. Big Media is getting us all trained to do just that! Its been normalized for a while now that when someone doesn't agree, then they are "arguing" "bullying" etc. I was just saying about myself to you the other night, that i felt like leaving the forum, and I realized its more to do with me than anyone else posting here. So I was more talking about myself in my last post above. There is a strong trend of stigmatizing anyone we don't agree with, almost everywhere, online & off. "The internet" is normalizing this kind of behavior with the guilty always before proven so, and "combative" if we challenge a line of thinking that another person feels very strongly about. Online forums, in general, are not as popular as they used to be. A sign of the times. It boils down to why we are online. Some are here to "win" while others want to "witness," and others yet want to learn. I wouldn't be too hasty in generalizing everyone into the same bracket. Communication online is much broader than its rudimentary components of writing and/or listening, much bigger than the mere exchange of supposedly objective information. Whether one’s aim is strategic: as in (to achieve a certain end) or relational (to connect), Our communication involves a meaningful exchange (meaningful to us any way) that sometimes does not lead to satisfactory understanding. We are all human, we are all different. I like the way Desmond Tutu puts it: I need to remember this more. I think there are some quotes by EGW on this too.
  20. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    Two Second Comings?

    Well I hope you are not calling me one of these "saints?" lol I am NOT qualified. I think if anyone chooses to not post, that its their decision and they cant blame someone else for it. It seems to just boil down to some who hate to be questioned and who wish the questions would stop, and when they dont; then its "abuse," or some such thing.
  21. 1 point
    dgrimm60

    Modern culture trumps the Bible

    B/W PHOTO DUDE THIS reminds me of the Tower of BABEL were the people thought they had a better plan than GOD HAD=====also in ROMANS chapter 1 where the people turned the truth in to a lie and worshiped the creation more than the Creator dgrimm60
  22. 1 point
    phkrause

    Here's your (not so) totally useless fact(s) of the day:

    When it comes to wine, an aroma similar to cat pee is a considered a good thing. James
  23. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    Modern culture trumps the Bible

    Well, I was a little shocked at a few things this article said. I didn't realize there was anyone other than the Pope who said things like this: I don't know how on earth this dude convinced himself of this, but "canonical obedience" to him is really stretching things over the top. I mean, thats just ridiculous. He seems pretty mixed up. In one breath he states: And then he also states: People sure don't need/use the Bible to be "homophobic," if they are "homophobic," they are not that way because of the Bible. Its like saying Im "heterophobic" just because I agree with the Bible's take on "adultery." It doesnt take a scientist to see what he means by this: Its a pretty ridiculous statement for several reasons, none of them to do with "orientation."
  24. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    👑 ✨ In the highest ✨ 👑 Mat 21:9 And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest. ☄️
  25. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About The New Year's Eve Ball Drop_2 Welcome to 2020, folks! It's a brand new decade, so join us as we celebrate New Year's Day, Trivia Today style! Here are five things you didn't know about the New Year's Eve Ball Drop. The First Ball Was Made of Iron and Wood The first ball drop in New York City goes all the way back to 1907-1908 when an iron and wood ball decorated with 100 25-watt bulbs was lowered in Times Square. Waiters and others at nearby restaurants and hotels wore top hats with tiny battery-operated light bulbs spelling out “1908.” At midnight, the year on their hats lit up, complementing the display on the Times building’s tower. The Ball in Times Square Has Had a lot of Makeovers The 2020 Waterford Crystal Times Square New Year's Eve Ball was built around the theme of the "Gift of Goodwill", which displays three pineapples all decked out in Waterford crystal to represent hospitality and goodwill. The 12-foot ball is covered in 2,688 Waterford Crystal triangles and is believed to be the largest crystal ball in the world. While the ball drop is now timed electronically using an atomic clock out of Colorado, for the first 87 years, the ball was lowered by hand. No Ball Drop Occurred in New York City for Two Years During 1942 and 1943, the ceremonial ball drop was suspended because New York City lights were dimmed due to World War II. However, people in the city still celebrated by gathering in Times Square for a moment of silence. Sound trucks, parked at the tower’s base, were used to transmit the sound of ringing chimes. This was similar to earlier celebrations where church bells were rung to announce the arrival of the New Year. Time Balls Have Been Used Since the 1800s The concept of dropping a ball to mark time dates back to the mid-1800s in England. One of the earliest time-balls was the one atop the Flamsteed House of the Greenwich Observatory along the River Thames. Starting in 1833, it was lowered every day at exactly 1 p.m. to signal the time to sailors and Londoners who could not afford clocks and watches. The Cleanup Is Massive Thousands of pounds of confetti are dropped at the stroke of midnight. One hundred volunteers, called confetti dispersal engineers, are stationed on the roofs of the Times Square buildings, and they are in charge of its release on the populace below. Once the festivities are over and the crowd is gone, a massive effort is undertaken by the Department of Sanitation to clean up the mess. For example, in 2013-2014, it was estimated that it took eight hours and 190 workers to clean up more than 50 tons of confetti and items dropped by celebrants.
  26. 1 point
    phkrause

    Joe Walsh

    1919-2019: Joe Walsh, one of region’s last surviving Pearl Harbor veterans, has died Back in 1987, Marine veteran Joe Walsh co-founded the North County chapter of the Pearl Harbor Survivors Association because he believed the men he served with on that fateful day of Dec. 7, 1941, “deserved to be remembered.” Now it’s his turn. On Dec. 21, Walsh passed away after a brief illness at the Pacifica Senior Living complex in Vista. He was 100 years old. Walsh was the last surviving active member of the association’s Chapter 31, following the death last February of chapter co-founder John Quier, 98, of Fallbrook. https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/12/1919-2019-joe-walsh-one-of-regions-last-surviving-pearl-harbor-veterans-has-died/? ps:Thank you for your service!!
  27. 1 point
    phkrause

    Winter Vacation

    Winter vacation was over and the teacher asked little Moishie Rosenberg about his family trip. "We visited my Bubbie in Minneapolis, Minnesota." The teacher asked, "Good, Moishie, can you tell the class how you spell that?" Moishie replied, "Actually, we went to Ohio."
  28. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🎇✨ Glory to God ✨🎇 Rom 4:20 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
  29. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Who's fooling who?

    thx4mercy: Do not look to the Bible for what HCH posts. You may find some of it coming from his head and the newspaper.
  30. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About The Panama Canal_3 On December 31, 1999, the Panama Canal was turned over to Panama after tensions and rioting by Panamanians about the Canal Zone. Here are 5 things you didn’t know about this artificial waterway that sped up travel between the two major oceans... Approximately 14,000 Ships Use The Canal Every Year American ships use the canal the most, followed by those from China, Chile, Japan, Colombia and South Korea. Every vessel that transits the canal must pay a toll based on its size and cargo volume. Tolls for the largest ships can run about $450,000. The smallest toll ever paid was 36 cents, plunked down in 1928 by American adventurer Richard Halliburton, who swam the canal. Today, some $1.8 billion in tolls are collected annually. More Than 25,000 Workers Died During The Canal’s Construction Workers on the construction of the canal had to deal with the difficult tropical weather, tropical diseases and terrain that was challenging. The French, in their earlier attempt, had lost around 20,000 workers, while America lost about 5,600 between 1904 and 1913 because of accidents and devastating diseases such as malaria and yellow fever. The Panama Canal Was Spain's Idea Though it was completed by the Americans and is now controlled by Panama, the canal was actually the brainchild of King Charles V of Spain in the early 1500's, and he even began a study of the feasibility of the project which would begin 350 or so years later. Today, a bust of King Charles V stands in Panama City's Casco Viejo ("Old Town") in commemoration of his vision. America Wanted to Build the Canal Through Nicaragua Throughout the 1800s, the United States, which wanted a canal linking the Atlantic and Pacific for economic and military reasons, considered Nicaragua a more feasible location than Panama. However, that view shifted thanks in part to the efforts of Philippe-Jean Bunau-Varilla, a French engineer. Bunau-Varilla began lobbying American lawmakers to buy the French canal assets in Panama, and eventually convinced a number of them that Nicaragua had dangerous volcanoes, making Panama the safer choice. The United States Transferred Control of The Canal to Panama in 1999 The United States transferred control of the canal to Panama in 1999. In the years after the canal opened, tensions increased between America and Panama over control of the canal and the surrounding Canal Zone. In 1964, Panamanians rioted after being prevented from flying their nation’s flag next to a U.S. flag in the Canal Zone. In 1977, President Jimmy Carter and General Omar Torrijos of Panama signed treaties that transferred control of the canal to Panama in 1999 but gave the United States the right to use military force to defend the waterway against any threat to its neutrality. Control of the canal was transferred peacefully to Panama in December 1999, and the Panamanians have been responsible for it ever since.
  31. 1 point
    stinsonmarri

    Who's fooling who?

    HCH: Sister White wrote Testimony to the Ministers and Gospel Worker before she died. On page 105, she clearly said do not hold on to error when it found not to be true. However, the truth is not from you nor I it is from the Bible. The Three angels were preaching angels do not preach. They provide a message and or interpretation specifically to an individual or group. Also EGW did not tell you that she was shown, or an angel told her so this was not a vision. She like all the pioneer at the time thought these were angels and they were not, they were messengers. Strong Greek dictionary indicates a messenger and it could be an angel but it is a preacher. So who's doing the preaching well the chapter tell who is doing the preaching. If we would take the time and read the beginning part of the Chapter is plainly speaks of the 144,000 receiving their reward, for what? For preaching of course and it shows that they are sealed have become one like YAHSHUA with a crown (now HE has many Crowns on HIS HEAD). It is the 144,000 preaching when? During the Time of Trouble, that's why YAHWEH tells those wicked angels who have been release not to touch anything green tree or grass. These creatures are release and they head straight for earth and there are so many of them they darken out the sun. To John they remind him of locust because they were coming to eat up the greenery but they couldn't! They also wanted to killed the wicked immediately but YAHWEH Said no, they could only torture them for the last five months of the Time of Trouble. THE TIME OF TROUBLE IS TROUBLE FOR THE WICKED. The 144,000 are already sealed before the Time of Trouble and it is THE WRATH of THE LAMB. Now, that is what the Bible says and that is what I believe! I believe the Bible because it can speak for itself! Notice the Judgment of both the dead and the living was already given in the Bible. If you have read the Bible, YAHSHUA had to do the ministration in the HOLY PLACE first and if you read YOUR BIBLE, Rev Chapter 4 and 5 correlates with Daniel 7:9. 10; Chapters 8 and 9. Why your times is not correct because you do not read the history that took place, which is very clear. The ram and the goat was Persia and Greece. Alexander conquer the world in three years! The other history had to take place, four generals eventually divided up Alexander empire. Judah went to the General who control the east. A strange thing historically happen "a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land." Again, history the little horn was Rome and it was papal Rome that "to the host of Heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them." It was the papacy that started false doctrine concerning Heaven it misinterpreting the stars (which is symbolic for angels). Then: Yea, he magnified himself even to THE PRINCE of the host, and by him the daily was taken away, and the place of HIS Sanctuary was cast down. That is dishonoring HIS NAME, the Commandments which is the daily, (sacrifice was put in there and not in the original Hebrew text), and formed a false sanctuary and priesthood down here. The pope claiming he is THE SON here on earth. This all is history and had to be done! You do not understand the question or the answer that was given after this history. The Sanctuary had to be cleanse and that could only be done by THE BLOOD of YAHSHUA! Lambs, bulls and goats could never take away sin! You started counting from the death of YAHSHUA and you will come to 1844. All the dead both righteous and wicked had to be judge! Proof is what was in THE FATHER'S HAND and what John 3:16 said. The whole world not a few YAHSHUA died for! Then, the judgment of each one had to be done. SDA do not understand Revelation Chapter 6, the white horse was both the Adams, Cain the red horse, Nimrod was on the black horse, the papacy was on the gray horse. Horse symbolized the earth and during those periods of time both the righteous and the wicked were judge. The gray horse is death and the earth is dying and no amount of correction they do now will save it. There were no horses after the gray or pale horse! Those under the altar were the marytrs that the papacy had kill and they were told to rest and they were placed in the Book of Life! I will stop here! Blessings!
  32. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🌌 Buy of Me 👑 Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
  33. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About The War of 1812_4 On December 30, 1813, British forces and their Native American allies torched several towns along the U.S. - Canadian border, including Buffalo, New York. Here are five things you didn't know about the Burning of Buffalo and the War of 1812. It Was an Act of Revenge The Burning of Buffalo didn't come out of nowhere. It was an act of revenge exacted after American troops had burned several Canadian towns as bad winter weather closed in, with the idea of leaving everyone in those towns homeless and at risk from the cold and snow. The burnings so enraged British and Canadian leaders, especially Lieutenant-General Gordon Drummond, that they devised a plan to attack and burn several American border towns as revenge. Nearby American Forces Fled Instead of Fought American troops were stationed near both villages, and they outnumbered the British and Native American troops by a fairly large margin. The Americans may have had superior numbers, but they lacked superior soldiers. All except very few of them behaved in the most cowardly manner,” reported General Lewis Cass. “They fled without discharging a musket.”The troops near Buffalo simply put up no fight, fleeing instead and leaving the village open to attack. The British Later Returned to Burn More of Buffalo It's bad enough your town gets burned to the ground once, but twice? On December 30, during the main Burning of Buffalo, one resident named Sarah Lovejoy did not flee and instead put up a fight as Native Americans ransacked her house during the attack. Some sources call her foolish or reduce her fight to an attempt to save her dresses—and according to neighbors, she said she'd stay behind to protect her property—but she put up more of a fight than some American troops who fled the scene. Lovejoy was killed and her house set on fire; her neighbors later returned, put out the fire in her house, and placed her corpse inside. Unfortunately, the British returned soon after (depending on the source, either December 31 or January 1) and torched her house again, leaving only her bones for burial. The British Issued a Statement of Regret Later Believe it or not, the British leaders in North America actually recognized how bad the burning was, though that was of little comfort to people who'd lost homes and neighbors. One British leader, Lieutenant General Sir George Prevost, offered regret over the burnings a few weeks after troops were no longer attacking border towns and incinerating them. But before you assume that this regret was part of an act of repentance, realize that Prevost said the burnings were in response to the actions of the Americans on the Canadian side of the border, and he placed the blame squarely on the Americans' shoulders—not on the British or Canadian troops who had burned American towns. Canadians Know More About the War Than You Probably Do The War of 1812 is one of the most overlooked conflicts in the history of the United States. Few Americans celebrate the War of 1812, or recall the fact that the U.S. invaded its northern neighbor three times in the course of the conflict. Although it produced patriotic icons such as “The Star-Spangled Banner” and “Old Ironsides,” the War of 1812 is often lost in the American memory. Not so in Canada, where the war is credited with forging a national identity as Canadians united to repel a series of American invasions.
  34. 1 point
    news

    The Embarrassing Patience of God (19:6)

    God’s incredible graciousness has even been an embarrassment to some of His people. Do you remember when the prophet Jonah was asked by God to go and give a serious message of warning to Nineveh? At first he ran away. Later, under considerable pressure, he went and delivered his message. He was hardly a “missionary […] The post The Embarrassing Patience of God (19:6) appeared first on Jon Paulien's Blog. View the full article
  35. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    Two Second Comings?

    "Name-dropping" does not a Bible truth make
  36. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    👑 He is able Heb 7:25 Wherefore 💙 he is able 💕 also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
  37. 1 point
    stinsonmarri

    Two Second Comings?

    Joe: Here the thing and why I apologize to you! Because it is not you but the person who provided the story which I say is false base on his own writings. If you do not believe in a worldwide flood and equate the Bible story with the Babylonians and the Assyrians; then showed proof that the word used is not grammatically correct. To me that just do not make sense. With you, you evade the truth of what the angels look like. You are intelligent and that should be something you should consider. I don't believe you have thought about their appearance and how they are made, correct? One note both the Assyrians and the Babylonian provided winged creatures described clearly in Ezekiel as one of their faces. They'd remember with the help of Satan a certain part of his feature and they did worship these drawings as their deity. So, I just want you to explain that and YAHSHUA said that angels do not marry in Heaven. If they don't marry would they have sex organs? What would be the purpose? Satan and his angels were in Heaven and they were made before they sin. So, are you telling me that poof here comes the sex organs after they sin? All I want you to do is to explain this to me. That is it! Again, I have problem with him. Blessings!
  38. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Probably Didn't Know About The YMCA On Dec 29, 1851, the first American Young Men's Christian Association was organized in Boston. Here are 5 facts you probably didn’t know about the history of the YMCA... The Early YMCA Objected to Exercise Programs The early YMCA was geared toward improving a young man’s spiritual condition through holding Bible classes and prayer meetings and formulating ways to improve society. Several of the people associated with the YMCA believed because it was theologically inclined that exercise programs should not become a part of it. This attitude continued until the late 1800s when exercise programs were included to teach the importance of exercise, good health, and sportsmanship. Thank a YMCA Instructor for the Invention of Basketball James Naismith was a Canadian-born instructor at the International Training College of the YMCA in Springfield, Massachusetts, when he invented a game that would take the country by storm. That winter in 1891, he invented the game of basketball, in which the nine players on each team used a soccer ball and hoops made of peach baskets. Unfortunately, that first game caused a free-for-all in the gym with one boy being knocked unconscious, one suffering a dislocated shoulder, and another getting a black eye, so the rules had to be changed. Another YMCA Teacher Invented Volleyball William G. Morgan met James Naismith while he was attending college in Springfield, Massachusetts, and decided to become an instructor of physical education at the YMCA. He invented a game that he called "Mintonette" for older members who needed an exercise game less strenuous than basketball to play. It was later renamed “Volleyball” because of the way the ball was volleyed back and forth between the players. The First Father’s Day Celebration Was Held at a YMCA Sonora Louise Smart Dodd of Spokane, Washington pitched the idea of having a special day to honor dads everywhere at a regional YMCA meeting. The organization was enthusiastic about her idea, and the first celebration of Father’s Day was held on June 19, 1910. Father’s Day became observed nationally in 1972 on the third Sunday in June. The YMCA Sued The Village People for Their Hit Song “Y.M.C.A.” is one of the most iconic disco tracks ever created, thanks to the disco group Village People. It turns out that the Young Men's Christian Association, for whom the song is named, wasn't too thrilled about being at the center of what arguably began as a gay disco anthem and sued the disco group for copyright infringement (the case was eventually dropped).
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    news

    The Misunderstood Patience of God (19:5)

    Sometimes this patience of God has been misunderstood. Some think we can go on sinning with impunity because God is simply too kind and too patient to discipline us or to turn us over to destructive consequences. Paul warned that presuming on the kindness of God is a serious error: “Are you, perhaps, misinterpreting God’s […] The post The Misunderstood Patience of God (19:5) appeared first on Jon Paulien's Blog. View the full article
  40. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    God is gracious 💖 2 Chron 30:9 For if ye turn again unto the LORD, your brethren and your children shall find compassion before them that lead them captive, so that they shall come again into this land: for the LORD your 🎇 God is gracious ✨ and merciful, and will not turn away his face from you, if ye return unto him.
  41. 1 point
    phkrause

    Who's fooling who?

    Exactly!!
  42. 1 point
    stinsonmarri

    Who's fooling who?

    You know that is why it is not good to make prediction as if you were a prophet. YAHWEH'S last prophet was John. EGW, herself said she was a messenger and that YAHSHUA told her that HIMSELF! If you want to know the truth about the endtime read Daniel and Revelation. Especially Revelation because Daniel fills in certain things, but the whole latter day scene was given to John. There is no need for prophets today but what is needed is told in Joel and in Acts. We do not need to add or subtract from the Bible. If the man is to be removed, YAHWEH will remove him, when it is time. YAHWEH has everything under control. HE used Baalim who had become wicked and tried to curse the Children of IsraEL, but he couldn't. Yet, YAHWEH allowed him and the Moabites to use women to entice the men. Why? Because everyone in the camp was not living right either. But the important part of this story is Baaliam did not get away, he died and was destroyed in his sin. YAHWEH is sifting out those who claim they love HIM! The man in the WH was allowed to show they don't really love HIM as they claim. You cannot love when you hurt and treat others bad because they don't agree with your views. They are not judges, HE IS and many will be surprise. Sin will be found out! Many will reap what they sow. The Bible says when you cause little to children to suffer, mistreat the poor and downtrodden HE, not us, will repay! Blessings and Happy Sabbath!
  43. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    7 Things You Probably Didn't Know About Peter Pan On December 27, 1904, the play Peter Pan, by James Barrie, opens at the Duke of York’s Theater in London. Here are 7 facts that will surprise even the most dedicated fans of Peter Pan... Peter Pan Started Out as a Stage Play “Peter Pan; or, The Boy Who Wouldn't Grow Up” began as a play, not as a novel, and it first opened in 1904 in London at the Duke of York’s Theatre. It was based on stories told by James Barrie to the children of Llewelyn Davies, who was a cousin to author Daphne du Maurier. Peter Pan Didn’t Wear All Green Peter Pan wasn’t dressed in all green until Disney presented him that way in the 1953 animated movie. During the stage productions, the boy who could fly wore tans, auburn, and browns, along with cobwebs. The character was named for one of the Davies boys, whose name was Peter, and for Pan, the Greek god of wild things and nature. In addition, it has been suggested that the character was based on Barrie’s own brother, who died in his teens following a skating accident. Fairy Dust Was Added Later For Safety Reasons Originally Peter and the Lost Boys could fly unaided, but after several reports of children injuring themselves attempting to fly from their beds, JM Barrie added Fairy Dust to the play as a necessary factor for flying, so children would understand they could not fly without it. The Character of Peter Pan Was Played by a Woman Theatrical tradition in those days was that women were used to play young boys, and this tradition continued for Peter Pan. Nina Boucicault was the first actress to play Peter when the play opened. In 1905, the play opened in New York City with Maude Adams, who was the most successful actress of her day, in the title role. J M Barrie always wished to see a boy play Peter on stage, though he never lived to see it occur. It’s also traditional to have the same actor playing Hook and Mr Darling, which is the case in our production at Polka. A Famous Line From the Show Was Cut During the War One famous line was removed from the production of the show during World War II because many of those in the audience were soldiers who were on leave. The line “To die will be an awfully big adventure” is attributed to the original producer of “Peter Pan,” Charles Frohman. They were reportedly his last words just before he died on the RMS Lusitania when it sank after being struck by a torpedo fired by a German U-boat in 1915. Walt Disney Once Starred as Peter Pan in a Play The decision to bring an animated version of Peter Pan to the big screen stems from Walt’s own childhood. After seeing a stage production of the show, he got the chance to play Peter in a school play. He recalled his brother Roy using a rope to hoist him up over the stage to make it look like he was flying. JM Barrie Gave All The Rights to Peter Pan to Great Ormond Street Hospital The hospital has received royalties every time a production of the play is put on. Barrie requested that the amount raised from Peter Pan should never be revealed, and the hospital has always honored his wishes.
  44. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    When will Iran attack our (US) fleet?

  45. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    When will Iran attack our (US) fleet?

    Yes, what the Lord has prophesied will happen. But, your prophecy is not the prophecy of the Lord, even if it happens. As I have said before, in essence: Probability tells us that on occasion you will be correct.
  46. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    HCH

    As part of the experiment in seeing how this will work, I have moved a thread on the IJ to this section. As the one who began the thread, I have decided that due to the major participation of HCH in its discussion, it would better serve here in this section. We shall see. This is just an experiment.
  47. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    HCH

    In many ways, this section of this forum is an experiment. It is thought to be a place where people can post that which is well outside of where Seventh-day Adventists generally are. So, in working to see how it develops, I may move here some of the threads to which HCH has made major posts, even if he did not begin the thread. When I do this, the posts of others in that thread will also move to this location. Some of those posts may be well within SDA belief. But, the placement of the thread in this location will serve as notice that probably major content is outside of SDA belief.
  48. 0 points
    B/W Photodude

    Modern culture trumps the Bible

    It seems that even some Seventh-day Adventist agree with this article: Modern culture trumps the Bible, says new Christian leader https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/modern-culture-trumps-bible-says-new-christian-leader/
  49. 0 points
    phkrause

    Jobbie Dinio Yabut

    Southern Asia-Pacific Youth Director Dead at 56 Jobbie Dinio Yabut, youth director of the Southern Asia-Pacific Division (SSD), passed away December 20, 2019, in Silang, Cavite, Philippines, at the age of 56. No immediate cause of death was officially reported. https://www.adventistreview.org/church-news/story14353-southern-asia-pacific-youth-director-dead-at-56?
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    phkrause

    Don Larsen

    Yankees Great Don Larsen Dies at 90 After Battle With Cancer The man who threw the only perfect game in World Series history has reportedly passed away at the age of 90 after a battle with esophageal cancer. https://www.12up.com/posts/yankees-great-don-larsen-dies-at-90-after-battle-with-cancer-01dxj2qkjn32/partners/36534?
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