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  1. 5 points
    CoAspen

    New Jerusalem Population

    There will be room for all that choose to be there! Really, very simple! God has no limits, only humans attempt to limit!!
  2. 4 points
    Bravus

    School Killings

    Guns are part of the problem but not the whole problem. The thing is, it's a complex, multi-part problem that will have a complex, multi-part solution. Which seems to be a challenge for us these days: we want simplistic solutions. So we bark at each other from our different sides of an imaginary fence, ignoring the real complexity of the landscape.
  3. 4 points
    GayatfootofCross

    New Jerusalem Population

    Billions n Billions will be there! Experiencing God's love for me has expanded from what man can not number (Rev 7:9) to.. a look at the Hubble Telescope (Gen 22:17) at just a sliver of the black sky! And our country homes/estates can be as large as counties! A world without seas can hold it And numerous Great Lakes can hold tons of aquatic life. God is infinite in love and housing capabilities.
  4. 4 points
    debbym

    Need Some Advice :)

    tell her to send all funds directly to the organization called Spring, which sets up wells and clean water sources where there is no clean or readily accessible water. Stump her with this one... tell her all the statistics on people dying for lack of clean water all over the world. https://www.charitywater.org/?utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_campaign=brand&utm_content=believe&gclid=CjwKCAiAn5rUBRA3EiwAUCWb2wbzow4qBMzTG0M6Jzer6ztjr2zJKC7zu7gF736kvFE214_H2M3cLhoCbmQQAvD_BwE
  5. 4 points
    Gail

    What's on the menu at a Tudor feast?

    Here is an excerpt of the menu of a feast for Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon: If a noble at court did not see 20 plates of meat he would feel slighted.
  6. 4 points
    Liz

    Rationing

    I always heard that if you were to eat human flesh, that it gives you the shakes, like Parkinson's. And no I don't think I would ever resort to cannibalism. I heard a lecture once from an Auschwitz survivor, she said that when her fellow prisoners did resort to cannibalism, she would eat grass, but not just handfuls, she would carefully pick out each blade of grass and choose which one looked greener, longer, etc. She said this way it kept her mind focused on the grass and not what was happening around her. She was an amazing person to listen too.
  7. 4 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Parkinson's Disease

    I will suggest that every person who has posted in this thread has contributed something to an understanding of the etiology of Parkinson's. The relationships between bacteria in the intestines, glycoside and exercise clearly deserve further study. In the meantime, I am going to leave this forum and spend 30 minutes on the treadmill.
  8. 4 points
    rudywoofs (Pam)

    Core SDA Values

    I was a strident opponent of Women's Ordination. What I read here on C/A (pros and cons) and how the arguments were presented on both sides caused me to change my mind on the subject.... and not only to change my mind, but to wonder why in the world is it even an issue?!
  9. 4 points
    Tom Wetmore

    Core SDA Values

    I would just note that some minds have been changed as a result of discussions here. I recently was encouraged by someone that spoke to me about something I had said to her quite some time ago that changed her perspective formed from what she had always been told. She had felt the call to ministry but thought she couldn't do it. As a result of our dialog, she told me she reconsidered and went back to school to finish her theology degree. It genuinely made my day when she told me, since I so often feel like I am completely wasting my time posting anything on this topic or trying to reason through this issue with people. Maybe there really are others that just don't speak up. "Caste your bread on the water..."
  10. 3 points
    GayatfootofCross

    New Jerusalem Population

    I love talking of Heaven ...One of the things that my Partner noticed when I first started taking him to our church was we talk more of Heaven more than hell. Yes! So Gregory Mathews I had to read your statement a few times to come up with something lovely you might be really saying on this thread. Maybe you mean that weird things of the world baffles secular people? or my first thought.. the numbers that are quibbled over? Please set me straight.
  11. 3 points
    Ron Lambert

    New Jerusalem Population

    Whenever I lead Bible study groups, I try to be careful not to allow the conversation to digress into a discussion of the 144,000, since there are some people who ride this as a hobby horse and insist it is a literal number. Once--just once--I allowed someone to bring this up, and it destroyed the Bible study group. It was an elderly church member who brought it up. It certainly did not help the non-SDAs who were present! (Being 71 now, I guess I qualify as elderly. But just because one might be elderly, does not mean one has to be a fanatic, and refuse to listen to sound reason based on Scripture.) By the way, I am not sure what the real dimensions of the New Jerusalem will be. The measurements given in the prophecy may not mean what many think they do. The idea of the city being a cube 1400 miles high, does give me pause. 14 miles high would be more reasonable. Of course, the upper floors could be pressurized. Oh, and remember we have to leave space for the Garden of Eden to be the Central Park for the city!
  12. 3 points
    Rahab

    Flu

    we're against the flu shot ... had to take it when I was young, had no choice but as an adult haven't had it in years and have not been sick with it this year they guessed wrong and it will not help anyone to take it but they continue to push it... SOP said that in the end times there will be diseases and germs docs will not be able to cure or treat effectively...best to have a good immune system
  13. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Flu

    Certainly she had some good stuff. It blew my mind, however, when she spoke of the flu shot being injected directly into the blood stream. I can not believe that a physician would say such. She did. What motivates me: I have seen people die because they expected the body to take care of and cure itself and ignored standard treatments that would have cured them. In dealing with this, I have had to deal with hospital staff who were providing care to the patient as that patient died. Further, she seems to make the most elementary mistake in not understanding that correlation is not cause. Yes, I took the time to view the video.
  14. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Need Some Advice :)

    I am looking for some advice right now. It seems that I am soon going to be in a place in which I can arrange for some charities to receive some substantial donations. I am looking for suggestions as to which charities should receive the available funds. Here is the deal: A woman in Africa is dying of cancer. She has selected me to distribute some $12,700,000 in funds to charities of my choice. So, I need to come up with a plan. Anyway, the very idea that she trusts me to handle such funds has made my day. Any ideas? NOTE: Please do not insult my intelligence by suggesting that I believe this woman.
  15. 3 points
    Kevin H

    New Jerusalem Population

    Hard to answer using only original thoughts, there is an interesting quote (I'm sorry I forgot the page and even chapter) in Mrs. White's "Acts of the Apostles" that I heard read at a youth conference where it went ok, but when I got back to academy and read it there was quite an up roar among both students and faculty and I was told that either she was wrong, or that she must have been counting all the angels as well, that surely she was not talking about humans. Anyway, the 144,000 is a symbolic number, the tribes also represent different personalities. It simply means that these people have had an experience where they have held on to their love and trust in God despite all the chaos of earth going through the last seven steps of no longer being able to support life. They have followed the Bible when people give it up because they can no longer excuse away contradictions and massive copying. There will be a world wide economic cooperation to try to keep fragile life on earth going and it will appear successful, but everyone will find that to cooperate they will either need to give up some point of conscience, or that they will be tempted in using external control psychology to force others to give up some point of conscience. (Some how the idea of Sunday laws, whether they become a reality or not but will be involved with this among Christians, with other issues with the same principles for people of other groups.) Satan will impersonate Jesus and the demons will impersonate people in our quality world and encourage us to go along with the system. Everything inside of us will say that this is Jesus. The Bible will be found with the same issues that Canright found in Mrs. White's works, so why depend on these undependable works when we have Jesus, the Bible writers and even Mrs. White (who admit their errors and now has it all together) all encouraging us to give up those books, listen to them now and to go along with the system. Seeing our beloved parents and grand parents our senses will tell us that we are wrong to reject our loved ones, to cling to the Bible and to say "I'm sorry but Jesus is Satan" the 144000 are going to believe that they have rejected Jesus for the message of the Bible, but even thought they believe that they will face God's wrath for this, they still follow the message of scripture doing what is right because it is right. The number 144,000 is a number that indicates this experience. When John looks at them he sees that they are a vast mighty throng that no man can number. And so when we get to the end in the New Jerusalem and those outside the New Jerusalem; We find outside countless thousands vs. inside a vast mighty throng that no man can number. Thus to me it appears to be vast numbers in both places.
  16. 3 points
    JoeMo

    An asked Question, what is your answer?

    As usual, I will present my contrarian view. While I agree that obsessing about sex (real of fantasy) is unhealthy from both a physical and spiritual standpoint, when Jesus presented that lusting after another in your mind is just as evil as the physical act, He was presenting a standard that most would agree is impossible to meet. True, when we realize what we are doing or have done, the regret and repentance comes into play. But the standard of it never entering my mind outside of the confines of marriage has proven to be a standard too high for me. While I have been 100% faithful to my wife of 35 years, I can't honestly say that lustful thoughts don't ever enter my mind when a beautiful and sexily dressed woman catches my eye. It's impossible to avoid those situations in today's society. Not saying I'm proud of it, just stating my experience throughout my 68 years of life. Another question concerning this subject is the difference between temptation and sin? When does thought along sexual (or several other ) lines cross over from temptation to sin? The standard set by Jesus tells me that I will never meet the qualifications through my own strength of will; and I NEED Him as my Lord and Savior; both to save me from my iniquity and to guide me onto righteous paths or I am doomed.
  17. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    A False Report of Rape

    Aubrey, you contribute to this forum. Do not let people drive you away. Stick around.
  18. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Did the NCC Ordain a Female?

    I have checked with others and perhaps it would be better to say that the NCC administration is considered to be Moderate with both liberal and conservative elements in its congregations.
  19. 3 points
    Rahab

    Parkinson's Disease

    A recent report just came out...and unfortunately you won't hear it on the evening news or many of the other research items that are significant to our health. Years ago we were told that if you used roundup on your weeds that after 7 days it would be biodegraded in the soil. Well, that wasn't true. Testing of the soils decades afterward, have shown that the glycoside remains in the soils for years and does not biodegrade. The plants mainly corn and soybeans are genetically modified to withstand the weed killer and therefore huge amounts of glycoside residues are sustained on the corn and soybeans. Then the gmo corn and beans are harvested for market. Mostly chickens are fed these products but some is mixed into the feed of pigs and other livestock. Once it is in their systems the glycoside gets concentrated in the fat (biomagnification) and becomes very toxic. It is also in the products that come from the animals such as the eggs and dairy products. They have found that it is this chemical in the roundup that is causing so much Parkinson's disease in many people that have no history of it in their background. In other words, it's coming from the meat, cheese, dairy, eggs, etc. and mainly from the chickens. There is a doctor (he is not sda), that has dedicated his life to reviewing all the research on many health problems and he has published all that he has found out. Check out his site. His name is Dr. Michael Greger at https://nutritionfacts.org/ You will be shocked at some of the things he has uncovered that could really help people.
  20. 3 points
    rudywoofs (Pam)

    Core SDA Values

    Really? Gregory asked a few questions which were hardly mean or opinionated. Is what Gregory wrote worse than insinuating that one's view [on a non-salvational, contentious-only-amongst-humans issue] aligns with God, and that someone with a different view is invoking God's wrath? See: "Might have made your day, but that doesnt matter a little. What matters is what the Lord thinks about it. Makes me shudder." I understand that some feel the need to point out the sins of others' beliefs or opinions — and I really think some are genuinely concerned that everyone who doesn't see things the "right" way (aka the way *they* see things), are doing the work of Satan. But on an issue, such as WO, which is *not* a salvational issue, such a belief that they are doing God's will does *not* preclude anyone else from stating other opinions, asking pointed question, or otherwise making a point. And we shouldn't need to feel like we have to "walk on glass" around people who are in that "I'm stating God's will" type of group. Not only is it tiresome, but it can dampen the entire spirit of a forum to where only flowery sweet platitudes on most any subject would become the norm. We need salt and spice, along with apple pie.
  21. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Core SDA Values

    From my perspective, the audience may extend beyond those who post in this forum. As a result, I often write with the person in mind who is not posting, but is reading the discussions. I may not know what effect I may have had on that person, but, I simply leave that alone. I do not have to know.
  22. 3 points
    debbym

    South Lancaster Academy in the News

    the students were give their choice... it was not required, and watching was also not required.
  23. 3 points
    debbym

    What about the TRINITY....have we lost our WAY?

    if you are righteous by a an absolutely correct understanding, then how you think of these details would be very important. below is quoted from the booklet "Ten Great Gospel Truths" compiled by Robert Wieland "Christ is a Good Shepherd who is seeking His lost sheep even though we have not sought Him. A misunderstanding of God’s character causes us to think He is trying to hide from us. There is no parable of a lost sheep that must seek and find its Shepherd. This truth flows naturally and logically from the gospel as Good News (Luke 15:1-10). The false idea is that like a shopkeeper, the Lord regards us indifferently until we take the initiative to ferret Him out from His hiding place. The truth is that He seeks us (Psalm 119:176; Ezekiel 34:16). 1 If anyone is saved at last it will be due to God’s initiative; if anyone is lost at last, it will be due to his own initiative (Jeremiah 31:3; John 3:16-19). Our salvation does not depend on our maintaining a relationship with God; it depends on our believing that He stands at the door and knocks—seeking to maintain that relationship with us unless we break it off (Revelation 3:20)."
  24. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    69 YO Runner Meets His Match

    Retired,69 YO, U.S. Brigadier General Bob Gaylord decided that he would run the 101 mile Appalachian Trail which goes through the Shenandoah National Park. He had 25 years of experience in running ultramarathons. So, he expected to successfully run this one. Well, he easily ran the 101 miles in one direction. So, easy in fact that he decided to run the 101 miles in return and out he started. What he had not considered was the possibility that he might meet mama bear with two cubs! He did and she did not want to let him pass. So, he had to run back a ways and divert around mama bear. All in all, on his return trip he ran 105 miles. He completed the total 206 mile run in 100 hours and 55 minutes! Anyone want to try to beat that figure, and you do not have to wait until you turn 69. NOTE: My source for the above came from: Sara Davidson, "Breaking Boundaries," Military Officer, February 2018, page 28. NOTE: The above true story should not be taken as advice to run away from a bear if you meet one. Such would normally trigger an aggressive response in a bear.
  25. 3 points
    jeannieb

    Question for Seventh-Day Adventist

    Whenever I see a post by my friend The Wanderer I feel a tug toward that topic. And this one is an example. Guest Paragon appears to know a lot about people of our faith already, and seems to be pumping us for material for his class in Adventist beliefs! [That's just my "take" on what this thread is all about.] And The Wanderer always has something valuable to contribute. --As also does Gregory Matthews. So, I'll keep on checking this topic whenever I'm online. If it's Sabbath where you are, I hope your day is blessed. I had a good Sabbath morning in church today, though it was a little bit lonely because my grandchildren stayed home with one of them coming down with the flu. Family, I'm learning, is the greatest gift we have in this life, next to our blessed Saviour. God bless. Jeannieb
  26. 3 points
    chilco

    What about the TRINITY....have we lost our WAY?

    TrevorL wrote: "Angel means messenger " That is correct! The problem of course lies in the fact that the word "angel" or "messenger" can be used in different ways. 1. The created heavenly beings that surround God's throne and are sent as messengers, guardians, and other missions to earth. Also known as cherubim and seraphim. 2. The word can be applied to people who are entrusted with a message (as we see in the letters to the churches in Revelation which are addressed to the "angel" of each of the churches. 3. The word "angel" as in "messenger" can be applied to ANYONE, heavenly or earthly, with a message of importance. So -- the problem is that people tend to limit the word "angel" to definition #1, but the bible does not do so. THE STORY OF JOSHUA Joshua 5:13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Are you for us, or for our adversaries? 5:14 And he said, As the captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? 5:15 And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy. And Joshua did so. Notice -- first Joshua say "a man" (but this was no ordinary man). Who was He? The ground where He stood was holy! Joshua falls down and worships Him! Not a word of rebuke concerning this worship comes from this Being Who has come to direct the battle. He is worthy of worship. The verses declare that He is the captain over all Jehovah's hosts. Go to Rev. 19 and you will meet Him again. It is none other than Christ, and He is God, one with God the Father. He is God manifest, personally bearing the message from the throne of God to the created humanity. Rev. 19:16 And he has on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. WHAT ABOUT ANOTHER JOSHUA? You'll find the story in Zachariah chapter three. In this prophecy of Zechariah we see Satan's accusing work, and the work of Christ in vindicating His people. The prophet says, "He showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord An Angel? How is the word used here? he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment. And I said, Let them set a fair miter upon his head. So they set a fair miter upon his head, and clothed him with garments." No, created being, even those we think of as the angels surrounding God's throne, has the power to forgive our iniquity and clothe us the garments of righteousness, This glorious messenger iis none other than Christ, and He is God, one with God the Father. He is God manifest, personally bearing the message that He will cause our sins to pass from us, and clothe us with His garments of righteousness.
  27. 3 points
    Gail

    Question for Seventh-Day Adventist

    1. 39 years 2. God's love, which is well beyond what we know as humans 3. I don't think any of the beliefs are problematic to me. What is problematic is refusal to grow in understanding. If the presentation of any of the beliefs denies God's character of love as it is plainly stated in Scripture, I believe the problem to be in human interpretation. Along with the belief in the love of God is that His love provides perfect freedom to choose one's direction. His love allows time for growth toward Him and changes the believer's heart toward love. 4. As a believer I do have a desire for a simple, natural lifestyle. I like to socialize with people from all backgrounds. Interests tend away from materialism. Thank you for your interest, Paragon! I think you will find a diversity among Adventist believers. Good luck on your project and I wish you well in your class
  28. 3 points
    CoAspen

    Native American Genetics

    New Data on ancient connection pathways
  29. 2 points
    whbae

    New Jerusalem Population

    I think, if I understand correctly, the new Jerusalem will be come down to the old Jerusalem. Am I wrong? No matter where it comes down, our earth has so much space!
  30. 2 points
    GayatfootofCross

    New Jerusalem Population

    My heart n mind soars when i think of HIM!
  31. 2 points
    CoAspen

    New Jerusalem Population

    Glass half full or half empty....perspective.
  32. 2 points
    bonnie

    School Killings

    No guns are not a God. We have more guns laws than ever.Yet it is the same hysterical cry over and over,More Laws,that will fix this problem. There has to be more driving this behavior in the US than gun availability. Guns were readily available during the time we were raising our boys. You could order them thru the Sears and other catalogs. Walk into your local hardware store and buy what you wanted no questions asked. Many of the high school boys drove pickups and brought their guns to school and kept them in the cab so they could go hunting with their friends after school. Today that would bring the swat teams and various law enforcement,those doing so would face consequences. Why wasn't that a problem. Students have always been bullied, we had those that were when I was in high school. Not right and should be stopped,however all their laws concerning that and we have more and worse types of bullying today. Why? Those bullied did not commit suicide or shoot up the school with many guns available. I know there were some that were bullied unmercifully,today we would have a mass shooting or suicide. We had a couple of guns when our boys were teens. Kept in the corner of the dining room with the shells in the china cabinet. While four boys can and did get into all sorts of mischief it would never have occurred to them to shoot their neighbors or someone they had a dispute with. I was born in Northern MN, guns were a staple in just about every household. Fully visible and not locked away. Ammunition always readily available. I think statistically gun ownership has gone down, gun laws more restrictive, while mass shootings have gone up. Why is that? Maybe those crying for the government to do more need to take a serious look at parenting 101 from the time their children are very young. Social media, television time instead of parental time and the many other issues that consume parents and children today.
  33. 2 points
    Rahab

    amla

    Seems like the best berry on the planet is Indian gooseberry. In its powdered form, it is called 'amla'. It is anti cancer, anti diabetes, lowers blood pressure, lowers risk of blood clots but not too low, cleans out arteries, and the list goes on and on. Some have already posted under different topics about this subject but I thought to give it its own spot here. It is the highest berry in antioxidants that has ever been tested. Take 1/2 tsp or more a day of the powdered stuff and you will begin to notice changes gradually after 4 weeks or so. If you get the dried gooseberries, probably a tablespoon of the dried berries. Here's the bad news... the gooseberries are very bitter. I hydrate them overnight in water and I'm used to the bitter taste now so it is not a problem for me. If I take the powder, I found that it irritated my stomach so now I take it in a fruit smoothie and we're just fine. If you are on meds for medical conditions, it might be a good idea to work with your doctor to keep checking your blood levels as you just might be able to get off your medications. The research information comes from dr michael greger at nutritionfacts.org.
  34. 2 points
    debbym

    A False Report of Rape

    years ago i researched this topic and it was stated that only 10% of rapes are even reported. and only 10 percent of those reported have enough evidence to go to court.
  35. 2 points
    Outta Here

    Rationing

    You were probably gracious. But let me ask you, if you were severely allergic to ham, what would you have done? My husband is allergic to so very many things there is nearly nothing an average "do gooding" person could prepare in advance that he'd be able to eat without modification. What would you say, or do, if the food was something that would hurt you? And furthermore...would a ham really hurt you? I'll leave that to you to decide. (I know what my answer would be: yeah, the ham would hurt me. But it I were starving enough, I might be driven with madness enough to eat it.)
  36. 2 points
    dgrimm60

    3 word devotional

    RAHAB LAW IS HOLY dgrimm60
  37. 2 points
    Tom Wetmore

    Core SDA Values

    There have been numerous numerous attempts by those supporting women's equality in ministry, ministry of all types, to raise the extra-Biblical practice of ordination by dialog and constructive suggestions to rethink our practices and nomenclature surrounding how we formalize recognition of those who serve in the church. And the meaningless distinction between commissioned and ordained as we practice it has been highlighted numerous times. But the strong resistance to change has quite frankly side-tracked and paralyzed any thoughtful dialog or effort to reconsider how much Catholic tradition we really do embrace in our own practices of ordination. That is why many of us have repeatedly recognized and pointed out that this whole debate really isn't about ordination. Even the TOSC process prior to the 2015 Session readily reached a consensus on the theology of ordination apart from gender issues. The bottom line is that it is really all about the role of women in the church. On a practical level, ordination is simply human recognition/acceptance of something. The simple fact is that opposition is at its heart a refusal to recognize or accept women functioning in the church in one way or another. That last phrase is so divergent that it discombobulates and derails the whole conversation because among those who oppose women's roles of one sort or another seldom agree among themselves on what they do accept or recognize for women to do in the church, where the boundaries really are. For some its OK for a woman to do just about everything, but still without ordination. For others, women are to remain silent and tend to their family only. And options range across the spectrum in between. As has been noted, it's OK with some that a woman preach, but then their is always a "but" attached. But not from the pulpit... But not as a leader... But not ordained to do so. And there is the incongruous side that a woman can be a prophet, but not a church pastor. And those who want women to be silent in church seem to have no issue with EGW, a woman of course, who preached more than 10,000 sermons in her life of ministry. But support, recognition, and acceptance of women in ministry of all sorts and leadership is in fact growing in the Church. Despite explosive growth in increased membership in areas of the world that have historically not supported full recognition of women in ministry by ordination, the overall percentage of those supporting WO continues to increase. This is contrary to the expected mathematical reality given the relative stagnation of growth in the divisions of the church that have historically supported WO.
  38. 2 points
    Stan

    So, in my spare time. BING CROSBY MOVIE :)

    http://imdb.me/stanjensen
  39. 2 points
    Outta Here

    Parkinson's Disease

    Most of my comments are in the threads that are started by someone else in these "Health Evangelism" subforums. I'd say, go for it! Start new threads as you'd like. If I have more information to share, I'll do so. (I've been around Club Adventist since 2003...so, I'm sure there's a whole lot lost in the archives.) New threads are where it's at these days! Great to have more whole-food, plant-based like-minded individuals here!
  40. 2 points
    Mark Leslie

    Core SDA Values

    One other thing. I am thrilled to be a Christian, and Adventist to boot! Wow! With that in mind, those sincere Christian Adventists who don't agree with me - I am thankful for you because I have to believe that you are Christ's own purchased possession. Sometimes a debate can make me forget that. But as I think about you, I am so glad you belong to Jesus. I shall try to keep that in mind always, and if my tone is harsh, please forgive me for that. I am fallen, and need Jesus too.
  41. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Core SDA Values

    NOTE: My friend, The Wanderer was hasty in his post. What he posted that I had said was quite different from what I actually said. I do not believe that such was intentional on his part. Rather, I simply believe that he posted in haste without taking the time to carefully read what I actually posted. For those who may not see it: The Wanderer left out the phrase: "It almost sounds like:" IOW, I did not make a definitive statement as to what she had said. Folks, that is an important difference.
  42. 2 points
    aka

    Graphic Quotes

  43. 2 points
    Stan

    Dangerous Money: Gov't money to churches has strings attached

    ould you choose to mount a sixteen-foot maraschino cherry on the roof of your church? You probably wouldn’t, but would you consider doing so if it were part of a deal where your church would receive a large donation? This situation may seem ridiculous, but many times government money offered to religious institutions has very troubling “strings” attached. The post Dangerous Money: Gov't money to churches has strings attached appeared first on ReligiousLiberty.TV - Celebrating Liberty of Conscience. View the full article
  44. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    What about the TRINITY....have we lost our WAY?

    As I look at what Stinsonmarri has posted above and stated is a paraphrase of EGW, I am concerned that people may have a problem distinguishing between what she has said and what EGW has said. As I do not equate her words with that of EGW, I am concerned. Certainly I believe that Stinsonmarri is honest at heart and would not intentionally misrepresent anything. And there are points on which honest people might disagree. But, I am reminded that recently she got it all wrong in her comment about Arius in which she placed him as living some 12 hundred years longer than he lived in her comment to the effect that he was a Jesuit priest. So, I am placing what EGW actually said below, so people can compare if they wish. The following quote is what EGW actually said on pages 105 & 106 of TM:
  45. 2 points
    Liz

    Question for Seventh-Day Adventist

    1. I was raised SDA, baptized at 13, never left--so 4 decades plus a couple of years. 2. All of them are central to my life, this is like asking which child do I like better. 3. I don't have a problem with any of them. 4. They pretty much go hand in hand. I try to live my life with this thought-- never be doing/reading/watching/eating/drinking something that if Jesus walked in on you, you would be ashamed or embarrassed. I fail at this, but each morning I pray for strength and every night I ask for forgiveness.
  46. 2 points
    Jeannieb43

    Happy Sabbath To All

    Dear friend Wanderer: You've been hiding your talent under a bushel lately! I never knew before that you are a preacher! God bless you! And God bless all who listen to your messages given in person there in Canada, plus those of us who read your messages here on Adventistan. Jeannieb
  47. 2 points
    whbae

    What about the TRINITY....have we lost our WAY?

    Quotation form the book "Steps to Personal Revival" by Helmut Haubeil, page 54; "... this means that even the effectiveness of Christ's work for people is dependent on the Holy Ghost. Without Him everything Jesus did on this earth - in Gethsemane , on the cross, the resurrection and His priestly ministry in heaven - would be unsuccessful. ......"
  48. 2 points
    The Wanderer

    Liar, Liar!

    OK, this will be the most diplomatic post I have made in a while here. I will say it like this. The reason we can trust the Bible is because it does not leave out the bad stuff, and we can always know where we stand. Lies or no lies. That parts up to you.
  49. 2 points
    The Wanderer

    Essential Oils: A Great, Natural Remedy for Anxiety

    Well, i think you have gone a little hard-core on this one and that you place too much trust in essential oil therapy as being "debunked" I wonder if its the same debunkers that spoon-feed our children with "evolution" so called? I currently use essential oils for palliative care situations, and can personally say as did Pam, there are many good and legitimate uses for these oils. Modern science and Big Pharma have always generated mind chatter about how "unreal" natural herbs, plants, oils etc are. The debunkers are likely from the same crowd that keeps saying we need all of their pills instead. And you might want to re-think your phrase "do your research" and apply it to the Bible's use of essential oils.
  50. 2 points
    GayatfootofCross

    Question for Seventh-Day Adventist

    Hello Guest Paragon... Thank you for your inquiry that has us reflecting our spiritual journeys . Your name does sound familiar.. Are you perchance related to any of the Guests I know? 1. I grew up in a non christian home and at 12 years of age we moved next door to a Lay SDA Minister's home and I gobbled the doctrine up. Over 40 years now. A friend said I would have become a J.W.or Mormon or Hare Krishna if I moved next door to them ...I say "YEP!" ... I was such a naive impressionable thirsty for any GOD "knowledge" child. 2. The teaching of the Dead and Resurrection (#26)" and the emphasizing of Heaven/New Earth (#28) and most glorious- God becoming Man and the effect it has on us humans(# 2, #3, #4, #9, #10) .. and a few other things ultimately pointing to what a Loving Magnanimous God He truly and purely is. I will say this till my dying breath -HE is The Most Beautiful Being in the Entire Universe. 3. And the saddest thing is I find is Moses words tends to trump Jesus' character and Words in a few or many ..and cause of all the rules and regulations and laws and expectations we give ourselves and others in attaining holiness/perfection tends to give anxiety and fear and uneasiness and plays into our controlling tendencies and therefore blocking Jesus from so many large sections of people that do not fit in our narratives . 4. For spiritual survival I had to laser focus my heart and thoughts and talk and prayer etc. to only one thing: God's love for me and others. Every breath I take reminds me of God is in me. ..although I forget far too much and fall! "But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us." 2 Cor 4:7(#19, #22) ..We cannot make ourselves Holy by all the rules. God has done it already and we grow in our awareness Just how loved We are in HIS Eyes it does something wonderful to our hearts! ..How we are not condemned no matter what we say and do and think! We as a Church will fulfill Our Mission (#13) when we collectively and individually understand/experience this impartial unconditional yet Simple Love. It will naturally Spill all over illuminating the Earth before Jesus comes saving billions.(#25). ................ for the list of the 28 Fundamental Beliefs https://szu.adventist.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/28_Beliefs.pdf
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