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1) I wonder what you think about the thief who died on the cross along with Christ and whether or not that thief was saved. 2) To say that now we know the truth, comes across as arrogant.

@Disciple of YHWH friend you will have a lot more credibility if you change this to your real name. Kinda how things work doe those who want to share 'new light',

this to me, sounds very very heathen, it is like if you say the right Magic word at the right time. **poof** you get to go to Heaven You are reading the Bible as if it was written today, it was not In Biblical times, as well as various place Name denotes Character. You change your character, you change your name, Several examples of that. Abram became Abraham, Saul became Paul, Peter was renamed the rock etc etc Peoples birth name was the character their parents chose for them. What it means is you are baptized via the authority of his Character. nothing magical at all. DIgest that

Rachel has raised a very important point. God does not need to investigate in order to figure out who is saved and eligible to spend eternity with God, and who is not saved. God knows. The so-called Investigative Judgment (IJ), is not focused on God in that sense. The plan of salvation, in its beginning was focused on the false charge that if God actually gave His creation freedom of choice. The Investigative Judgment is an examination of the record of the candidates that assures the created, intelligent, beings in the Universe that they have freely chosen to spend eternity with God and that if they are allowed to do so, sin has been so eliminated that they will never choose to sin. In it the Universe that needs to have this assurance. God does not. God knows. We who it is commonly stated are being judged, do not need to fear for our salvation. It is fixed and certain. With the end of the IJ, the Universe will also have that assurance.

The message was false. It did not happen. It was not a lie as all believed it and did not knowingly proclaim what they knew to be false. By the way, SDA historians could, if they wanted to do so, point out an inaccuracy in your statement in the post above. But, that would not make you to be a liar as you have no intention to decieve. It would only mean that you were inaccurate in a minor detail.

A major issue that the SDA denomination, at least in North America faces today is how to reach out to the community at large and become a part of the community. Probably the primary leader in that area, as it involves the Internet, stems from the Boulder, Colorado congregation. As I have posted on that before, I will not comment on it today other than to say that if you want more information, contact them. Recently the Gillette, Wyoming congregation found itself in an expanding Internet presence. By an accident [NOTE: I am not informed as to how Facebook works in this respect.] this congregation found that it had spent $15 for a Facebook advertisement that mentioned a Mother's Day sermon that would be broadcast on the Internet. It should be noted that this is a small congregation with 79 members on the books. In the first few days, following that sermon, some 1200 people had watched it. The congregation has expanded its Internet presence and now some 100 people are regularly following the congregation. These come from as far away as India, Florida, Texas and Utah. They are interacting with congregation for pastoral support. NOTE: My information came from a news release of the Rocky Mountain Conference. However, the above is my writing and it is not a quote.

I've always regarded myself as "weak" and "blind" sometimes, and foolish often. Guess I'm a good candidate - for God's use that is. I once asked the LORD what element of my character He most wanted to change. Instantly - and I do mean INSTANTLY - the word "impatience" flooded my mind. So if you're at all like me, and you find your life slowed to a crawl, the LORD may be working on your character, so He can make good use of you - later. I remember - some 25 years ago - there was a mentally challenged woman who attended my church. Joe may remember her. She walked with a forward leaning flat-footed gait. She would loudly interrupt Sabbath School class, telling us to prepare for judgment (not the topic of the lesson), then telling the leader that he was disrespecting her. Well - he wasn't. He was very patient with her. I remember sitting there seething with impatience, (and my intellectual snobbery) wondering why he allowed this woman to LOUDLY interrupt our class. Why didn't he DEAL with her? I hope I've come some way "heavenward" from that.

🤢 I watched the interview, the above words are just more Pope/RCC baiting. An opinion statement not based on facts or accuracy.

sometimes people can be so "right," that they're wrong.... If "truth" is presented in such a manner as to drive others away from listening or understanding, then that's wrong. And it's even more wrong when the Scriptures are used to do that. imho.

Probably Jesus was just kidding when He told the rabbis that before Abraham was "I am". He said the same to Moses. The rabbis took offense and try to injure Him over this one. But why take the rabbis serious anyway?!

Well, we brought up the thief on the cross, and immediately the conversation departed from Scripture and turned to mere speculation. So, we have seen demonstrated that the one posting does not always depend upon the plain word of the Bible and is at times willing to speculate beyond what the Bible says. You will note that I am not discussing the issue as to what the Bible might say about Christ seeking to evangelize the dead and in the grave (hell).

While it is true that the Scriptures talk of transformation, I think it would be wise to consider just what hobie is referring to by his use of the word spiritual formation. Just because you are using the same word does not mean you are talking about the same thing. So, if hobie would like to explain what he is referring to as spiritual formation, where it came from(who is promoting it), and perhaps even some links to videos, that would be great. And possibly some video links could be provided, but they may be longer than the attention span of most. I personally believe that there is a very serious problem going on with this thing called "spiritual formation", but would rather hobie answer for himself.

The idea of "name" in the Bible is the character. I'm afraid that you may be reading into the text not what the Bible writers had in mind but ideas from modern western thought. To pray in the name of Christ means to pray for the same types of things that Christ prayed or would pray for. To be saved by his name means that it is his character, his grace that forgives us.

It is common for SDA congregations that are in an early stage of growth to rent space in a Sunday-keeping Protestant church in order to hold services in Saturday. Ihave been the pastor of such congregations. It is common for SDA congregations to rent their building to a Sunday keeping, Protestant congregations for them to hold services on Sunday. I have been a member of congregations that did that. All of the above is well within denominational policy. If it was not, the local Conference could take action to stop it.

Gustave, Miller message was false. But, it was not a lie. The word "lie" has the connotation that something was either intentionally false or intended to deceive. Miller believed what he proclaimed. Therefore, while his messaged was false, it was not a lie. By the way, yes Miller's message originally began in the Spring of 1843 and later moved to include a period of time that ended in the Fall of 1844. But, that time period was a 12 month period that simply changed from Spring to Fall. That is why the October 22 date is called the Great Disappointment as that date ended the one year period of time.

In commenting on the above posts: * Gustave has done well in stating in a very short post what a canonical prophet is. * The Bible mentions what Gustave calls local prophets where were not canonical, such as Nathan and Gad. * The SDA denomination does not teach that Ellen White was canonical. Some of our members seem to believe that she was. But that is counter to SDA teaching. * No, this is not some new term. The word "canonical" has been around for several hundred years. It is a basic term used by students of Scripture.

when my boys were little I would often see them not paying attention in Sabbath School class, or to our worship at home. So I would ask them "what did you think this lesson or this verse was all about?" They would gleefully reply: "God can do anything..." and then we would all chuckle together about it. We both knew that they never heard a word I said, yet they DID still get the lesson, or the point. The Holy Spirit works in many and amazing ways.

I have noticed that God always takes the incentive on loving us, saving us, and using us for His glory. God approached Moses and used him to promote His agenda. He had to talk Moses into it. Moses didn't come up with the idea to save Israel and ask God to bless it; God instructed Moses to save Israel so He could bless Israel. God approached Noah before the flood. Noah didn't decide to build a boat and ask God to bless it. God asked Noah to build the boat, and promised He would bless surviving humanity. Abraham didn't just decide to go to Canaan and asked God to bless his trip. God told Abraham to go; and He would bless Abraham's descendants. In the above examples, God initiated the faith and working relationship with men; and promised to bless them if they followed His lead and carried out His purposes. Could it be the same about God using us? The author of the book offered the advice "Don't do something; just stand there!", implying that we should consider waiting on God to give us something to do; verify its purpose in scripture, and seek the counsel of others; and if they agree, do it! My neighbor shared a recent experience like this with me. He was talking to a co-worker about this strange urge to go to rural Honduras and preach at the grade schools and high schools. The co-worker exclaimed that he was having the same strange urges out of nowhere. Moving on faith, they took two weeks vacation and went to rural Honduras. The first day, they simply handed out Spanish-language tracts on the street corners by the town plaza.By early afternoon, a small crowd had gathered at the edge if their "personal space". In a lull of the crowd walking by, this crowd came at them, embracing them; exclaiming how long they had been praying for someone to bring them more of the gospel. The entire rest of the time they went to schools, universities, town halls, and government meetings preaching the Word and making altar calls. Including those coming forward were university professors, school teachers, and government officials. They were invited back to meet with the governor of the region. TWO REGULAR GUYS!! They were amazed and blessed beyond belief. They can't WAIT to go back and see what God has in store. Father God, bring me to a place where I can clearly hear Your Voice and Your will for me!

Well, I am entering into a 200 km bike ride for cancer patients in Alberta through the Rocky Mountains, for one example, and I can assure you that at my age and with all thats happened to me, I am not doing this to get brownie points with God. But I am hoping He will be there at the finish line to pick up my pieces from the pavement, so that I can yell out "Praise the Lord," and "thank you Jesus!"

as a former leader in womens ministries, i find the ministry of women to women to be rich and valuable, reinforcing to each other things that encourage and build ministries. it does not seem to diminish any roles in female ministry for women to minister in there way to one another, anymore than men's fellowships and ministries to one another would narrow their ministry. God's Spirit moves through many kinds of people of different gender and age and experience and education... i hope we can just support and encourage every person as the Spirit leads them and works through them. i have no qualms about women's ordination either. i strongly believe men and women need to stand side by side and present a collective and strong front in ministering the gospel and leadership to God's people.

this quote from Avia Hendrickson, president, Atlantic Union College "People ask how I’m doing and I say, "Well, I'm fine as long as I'm praying and I have to keep praying."" "I've learned to do that, trust in God, and use Scripture to center myself. And whatever occurs I know God loves me and I'm going to be all right." her message to her younger self was this Bible text. Romans 8:23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.

Myth #!: 1. We can only defend 1844 using the word "Days" in the KJV and not with the evening-morning of the other translations. I have no idea where this myth came from and I have only heard it in recent years. Some who use this argument are completely silenced by the arguments against it that they can only reply "that can't be, because you can only defend it from the word 'days' in the KJV." At both Atlantic Union College and Andrews University our whole apologetic on 1844 has been built on the evening-morning translation, and that this translation gives an even stronger case for 1844 than the KJV's "days" Dr. Shay wrote a lot about this in the books by the Daniel and Revelation committee. but at both Atlantic Union College and Andrews University our whole apologetic on 1844 has been built on the evening-morning translation, and that this translation gives an even stronger case for 1844 than the KJV's "days" Dr. Shay wrote a lot about this in the books by the Daniel and Revelation committee. Now there is the argument that the phrase evening-morning is dealing with 2300 sacrifices, two given each day and thus 1155 literal days. and is applied to the events of Antiochus Epiphanes. The first problem with this is that while 2300 days are too long the 1150 days are too short. Second problem is that the sacrifices have a technical term, "morning and evening" sacrifices. Not evening-morning. At Andrews I read in a couple of commentaries and articles on this that the author of Daniel must have been dyslexic, that he meant to write "morning and evening" but wrote it down backwards and forgot to include the "and". The only thing we find close to Daniel's "evenings-mornings" is Genesis 1's "evenings and mornings." indicating a daily cycle. The phrase "evenings-mornings" is cyclic terms. The ancient word viewed the world as going through cycles. (May I recommend a book that is sadly out of print, I don't know why our church does not get permission and reprint this book as it would save us many heart aches: "Before Philosophy" by Henri Frankfort and others, 1946 University of Chicago Press.) In Egypt the daily cycle is either the cycle of the sun or the cycle of the Nile flooding. We find the Hebrew cycles in Leviticus 23 and scattered in Deuteronomy. A Hebrew week was 6 days and the Sabbath. 6 months and either Passover or Yom Kippur (the two growing seasons) 6 years and the Sabbatical year, and 6 Sabbatical years and the Jubilee. (Deuteronomy is different in that it does not have the Jubilee. All that happens in Leviticus on the Jubilee occurred in the Sabbatical year.) Daniel is based on Deuteronomy so it's individual cycles would be days, half years and full years. Therefore in using the term "evenings-mornings" gives Daniel 8:14 more flexibility in application than limiting it to just days or half years or full years. A third problem is that while Daniel was in Babylon he was not interested in Antiochus nor the Pope but when will God's people again have a son of David as their king. The method used in teaching at AUC was called Exegesis and Analogy. Every semester we had to read and do a report on the article in the SDABC "The Role of Israel in Old Testament Prophecy." The assumption of the method is that God has given each generation either the chance to be the last generation or to prepare for their children or grandchildren to be the last generation. We would study how all the prophecies had an immediate context where they COULD HAVE been fulfilled soon after it was given, but if the conditions were not fulfilled back then we would see them cycle around again. Daniel 8 was given in the third year of Belshazzar. When our theories of Daniel 8 was formed Belshazzar was a forgotten figure of history so we knew nothing about him. Then he was discovered and he ruled about 10 years. If we start from the third year of Belshazzar and add 1150 days to it we come to business as usual. However if starting in his third year (we don't know when in this year the vision came) and we add 2300 literal days to it we come to the year that has Cyrus breathing down Belshazzar's neck, Belshazzar's feast, and the early days of Medio Persia's rule. So what happened in 1844? We have in heaven is a review of the lives of those who have in one way or another claimed to have given their hearts to God. They review how having Jesus in their lives affected them. Reviewing what God does for sinners helps the unfallen understand their own salvation and need of Christ better. (Just because they did not sin, they are still saved by Christ, not their works.) The reflection on earth is as we find that in the 1820s the Rosetta stone was understood and it took a while to be able to expand that knowledge. In the late 1830s Edward Robison conducted his first exploration of the Holy Land, which lead to serious Biblical geography and opened the door to archaeology. 1844 is a time that the knowledge of these events were starting to converge leading into an age were we are able to study the Bible as never before. It is the dawning of the age of exegesis. As we get to know the Bible better, we get to understand the God of the Bible better and can thus love Jesus even more. Understanding the issues of the Great Controversy and the truth about hell and liberation from superstition. We are living in an age that Tyndale, Luther or Wesley would love to be living in.

George Knight wrote a book "Myths in Adventism" where he compared what Mrs. White was believed to have taught to what she actually taught. I find two of the three problems pointed out in this article to not be a problem with Mrs. White and Adventism as such but rather is discussing myths in Adventism which I have seen coming into the church over my life time. I will deal with both myths separately but in summary the two Myths are: 1. We can only defend 1844 using the word "Days" in the KJV and not with the evening-morning of the other translations. I'm sorry but at both Atlantic Union College and Andrews University our whole apologetic on 1844 has been built on the evening-morning translation, and that this translation gives an even stronger case for 1844 than the KJV's "days" Dr. Shay wrote a lot about this in the books by the Daniel and Revelation committee. 2. That Mrs. White believed that the world was only 6,000 years old. This myth was studied again both at AUC and in the class "Archaeology and the Bible" at Andrews. I hate it that I can't remember the reference, but Dr. Gerrity sent us into the White Estate vault to read a document where Mrs. White down played the 6,000 years and said that what ever age we pick for the age of the earth to just make sure that it is fair to the Bible. Our problem is that we are reading Adventist tradition into Mrs. White and are lagging miles behind her.

Because iniquity is abounding, the love of many is growing cold. 😪

When one person incites another to commit a crime, the instigator can also be charged and convicted (at least under USA law). When one person deceives another into committing a crime, the deceiver can be charged and convicted. When one person pays another to murder, the one who pays for the murder can be tried and convicted. The one who carried out the crime, does not get off free. No. He is charged and convicted of his crime. It's just that the instigator is guilty - often more guilty - than the perpetrator, and the courts recognize this. I see the sins (in symbol) put onto the head of the Scapegoat (Satan) by the High Priest (Christ) as Satan being charged and convicted of the sins he has incited, and caused by deception. Satan is NOT "responsible for our salvation". No way!!! He is responsible for introducing distrust, and sin and rebellion into this earth, and the hearts of men.