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  1. BlessedMan

    Walter Veith

    This is a really good book. One of the reasons I appreciate the study of "the sanctuary," is because I once red a quote that basically says "In ever part of it was a symbol of Him," meaning, the sanctuary. Jesus is what makes that an essential topic.
    3 points
  2. B/W Photodude

    Walter Veith

    I would disagree with you on this one. However, I have decided to no longer comment on this topic of the sanctuary in this forum. There are a couple of other topics that I choose not to be part of the discussion because they just get too inflammatory for the sacredness of the topic. I have for some time been doing my own independent study of the sanctuary and have read thru quite a number of books on the topic with more to go. Leslie Hardinge's "With Jesus in His Sanctuary" is next on my list. I am purposefully not reading EGW on this topic until the very last. The early pioneers wor
    3 points
  3. B/W Photodude

    Walter Veith

    One of the real problems you will have to deal with in this argument is that we are exhorted over and over again in the Bible to "be perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect." I see many many people who believe that a person can sin right up to the very moment that Jesus returns to this earth and I tend to believe this is a very fatal error. First of all, it demonstrates unbelief. I find that you really then have to determine what or how one becomes perfect. Exactly what does that mean? Many try every day of their lives to not sin and fail miserably. And to be sure, I find it to b
    3 points
  4. JoeMo

    Walter Veith

    I, too have found many contradictions between SDA culture(including some of the "28"); but I have found contradictions between my understanding of scriptural and every other denomination I have researched. I have come to the conclusion that many (if not most) of these contradictions are IMHO not "salvational". The most salvational truth I know is that I believe Jesus Christ is the one and only Savior of mankind as well as completely God and completely man. He and His Father are also the creator of all things. It is only by His sacrifice' death' and resurrection that I even have a chance at
    3 points
  5. pierrepaul

    Walter Veith

    That's very interesting. I was raised SDA and I believed the whole "27" (it was 27 back then). When I started reading the Bible for myself, I started to find many contradictions with my Adventist faith (and many contradictions within the biblical texts). When I tried discussing some of these issues with SDA clergy, I also got the response - "Adventist scholars have been studying this for 100 years and have resolved these questions." I have since made peace with the realization that I will not have all the answers and that I do not need to have all the answers. As I worked my way through t
    3 points
  6. bonnie

    When Will Biden Be Held Accountable?

    Have you heard the old saying about what it can mean to assume? You along with most anti Trump voters don't have a clue. I voted for Trump simply because he wasn't Hilary and couldnt possibly be worse.. I had low expectations concerning what he promised as I believed he wouldnt be any different than many of those that came before him. I was very pleasantly surprised that in spite of his lack of eloquence, his very rough exterior at times and his less than spotless background he actually followed thru with what he promised. HIs "Christian nationalism" or Trump being a God fearing man" neve
    2 points
  7. JoeMo

    Does the SDA Church Need to Change?

    I read many of the articles. It was a great issue. I agree that the denomination needs to change with the times; but we must be careful. Many denominations that have embraced change to accommodate current society and younger people have also embraced - even celebrate - non-biblical principles - like certain sexual deviancies, one-world religion, and abortion. I'm not going to get any more explicit than that. Young people in general are fleeing organized religion - especially Christianity.
    2 points
  8. B/W Photodude

    Walter Veith

    So the term "be perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect" may have been written only once in the New Testament, but references to be perfect occur frequently. So, score one "gotcha" point for you! Not sure what poisonous snake and moving mountains has to do with this discussion, but Paul actually did have an encounter with a poisonous snake. People in the New Testament also spoke in tongues. People today speak in tongues just as the apostles did. I have heard quite a number of stories of missionaries preaching to an audience and those who did not know the language of the speaker un
    2 points
  9. phkrause

    Walter Veith

    Here are a few other versions and how they translated that verse: KJ21 neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood, He entered in once into the Holy Place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. ASV nor yet through the blood of goats and calves, but through his own blood, entered in once for all into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption. AMP He went once for all into the Holy Place [the Holy of Holies of heaven, into the presence of God], and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, h
    2 points
  10. Gregory Matthews

    Walter Veith

    Who can say that they keep all of thee commandments? I can not. Yet, I have the assurance of salvation.
    2 points
  11. Theophilus

    Walter Veith

    hi! Took me a bit to find it. About the 36 min mark on:
    2 points
  12. JoeMo

    When will Iran attack our (US) fleet?

    You should follow your own advice. I haven't seen you post anything correct in a f ew years now.
    2 points
  13. Theophilus

    Walter Veith

    Some of Veith's sermons are very good. I loved watching him. Then later, all i saw was information on Jesuits, freemasons, and such. What happened for me was that he was no longer preaching Jesus or elaborating on the Bible. (His study on Zechariah is fantastic!) Recently, I saw a short video on you tube stating that Veith was going to go back to evangelism. The next video I saw from him was on the Sabbath,think it was a Q&A( he was discussing why he speaks so much of the Sabbath) and it was very good. I think that one was 2 weeks ago.
    2 points
  14. B/W Photodude

    When Will Biden Be Held Accountable?

    The liberals have for years gotten away with assuming that conservative men would show up being nice guys wearing golfing clothes at any political fights and not cause any trouble. They were unprepared for the Donald to show up wearing brass Knuckles!
    1 point
  15. Theophilus

    When Will Biden Be Held Accountable?

    I don't know what liar thing is about, I am an American citizen and I think the problem is far worse from the residuals from the former that from any problem with the current administration.I don't know how the presidency was won by lying about the previous president. For me, Biden won because he tried to unite the country, Trump was divisive--for him everything was red and green. He had 0 diplomatic skills, and i don't believe he gave a hang about a whole lot of groups in this country. People just got tired of it. the economy is doing better, folks are getting vaccinated-, things are being do
    1 point
  16. Stan

    We have this HOPE

    Part 1
    1 point
  17. Theophilus

    When Will Biden Be Held Accountable?

    Why don't you just stop it.? This is rubbish, posted to incite. Real christian of ya.
    1 point
  18. BlessedMan

    Walter Veith

    Dont get me started on the "paying customers" in certain other organizations. This is not where I was going with my comment. I believe its unfair to talk about someone this way, especially when it comes to quoting from non-official sources, which you just decried above that some dont do. While the article cited is from an official source, was it talking about Veith, and his motives for what he teaches. You and I both know the answer to that. I cant tell others here what to do but Ill only comment on the ideas, not the people themselves.
    1 point
  19. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    😥 Sorrow turned into joy 🤩 John 16:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
    1 point
  20. BlessedMan

    Walter Veith

    Thats for sure. I have sometimes wondered why thats so wrong. I know thats not what you are saying, just musing the question out loud. Well, where does the Bible actually say it like this?
    1 point
  21. B/W Photodude

    Cousin marriage

    There is no Biblical prohibition against second cousin marriages or first cousin marriages either. Some people just get squeamish about those things all the while forgetting we are all descendants of brother-sister marriages! There is no evidence that the Lord is going to curse someone who marries a 2nd cousin. There are no prohibitions regarding 2nd cousin marriages or even 1st cousin marriages within the church that I am aware of. https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/what-does-the-bible-say-about-marrying-your-first-cousin/ I would venture a guess that the som
    1 point
  22. Gregory Matthews

    Does the SDA Church Need to Change?

    Mountain Views is an official publication of the Rocky Mountain Conference of SDAs. The current issue, with its 15 articles is devoted to the idea that Change is needed in the SDA denomination. I consider this issue to be of great value. The following link will take you to the current issue and the links to each of the 15 articles: https://ww.rmcsda.org/mountain-views-Spring-2021/ Ed Barnett, President of the Rocky Mountain Conference, in the article: "Adventism & The Need For Change,” says: "We need to shake off the cobwebs and realize the church has to change to keep up with
    1 point
  23. B/W Photodude

    Walter Veith

    The term "most holy place" does not occur in the KJV New Testament. It does say in Hebrews that Jesus entered the holy place. Hebrews 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
    1 point
  24. Gregory Matthews

    Walter Veith

    Are you telling us that there is an actual tent in heaven? NOTE: I have inserted a reply to your previous question at the end of that post.
    1 point
  25. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    💕Abide in My love💕 John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
    1 point
  26. Gustave

    Walter Veith

    I'm free to form any belief provided it doesn't deny or contradict something that's been "defined". If I'm not mistaken isn't this true of the SDA Church as well?
    1 point
  27. Gustave

    Walter Veith

    A lot goes into a dogma before it becomes a dogma & the key word being "we declare and define [x,y,z]. From my perspective this is radically different than how dogma was defined in the SDA Church. Ellen White At that time one error after another pressed in upon us; ministers and doctors brought in new doctrines. We would search the Scriptures with much prayer, and the Holy Spirit would bring the truth to our minds. Sometimes whole nights would be devoted to searching the Scriptures and earnestly asking God for guidance. Companies of devoted men and women assembled for this purpose.
    1 point
  28. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    ✨👍it shall be done 💪🏻✨ John 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
    1 point
  29. pierrepaul

    Walter Veith

    Nor has anyone else knows any perfect commandment keepers. Therein lies the absurdity of the so-called "last generation theology" and the perfectionist camp. These people will argue until they're blue in the face, with EGW quotations in hand, that man can perfect his character on this earth. But none can point to a single example of this ever occurring. It's a little like those people who take the text about being able to move mountains by faith literally. Could you imagine a group of supposed adults having a supposedly serious conversation about whether or not a man has the ability
    1 point
  30. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🕊Peace I leave with you 🕊 John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
    1 point
  31. BlessedMan

    Walter Veith

    I would definitely agree with this idea Gregory Salvation is not dependent on obedience but it does result in obedience, Good thing too. I dont know of any perfect sabbath keepers or perfect commandment keepers.
    1 point
  32. BlessedMan

    Friday Night Devotionals 4 U

    This topic is for everyone who comes here Friday night. Posting can take place anytime.
    1 point
  33. phkrause

    Quotes

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  34. Gregory Matthews

    Catholics, Jesuits & the General Conference

    From time to time, people arise to tell us that Jesuit spies have infiltrated the General Conference. The following three, sometimes aged, articles address Catholic issues and give a light hearted response as to what we should do about this issue. [NOTE: That 3rd article is a classic of great value.] https://atoday.org/reprint-letting-roman-catholics-off-the-hook/ https://atoday.org/my-secret-jesuit-life https://atoday.org/our-vatican-spies/
    1 point
  35. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🫂 I will come to you 💕 John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
    1 point
  36. stinsonmarri

    Walter Veith

    When the discussions is on the Catechism and the Catholic teaching of the supposed personalities of THE ALMIGHTY ONES, the Bible contradicts them both. Throughout the Bible, it proves that the Law and the Commandments are binding. YAHWEH Stated about Abraham is clear: Because that Abraham obeyed MY VOICE, and kept MY Charge, MY Commandments, MY Statutes, and MY Laws. Gen 26:5 YAHSHUA in THE NAME of HIS FATHER stood before the 70 elders, Aaron, Abihu, Nadad, Moses and Joshua. They all saw HIM and they did not die! YAHSHUA in THE NAME of HIS FATHER Said to Moses: And YAHWEH said
    1 point
  37. Gregory Matthews

    Frederika House Sisley

    For information on denominational history and the role one woman played, see: Frederika House Sisley (1852–1934) — Former General Conference Treasurer (spectrummagazine.org)
    1 point
  38. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    💪 Strength and power ✨ Psalm 68:35 O God, thou art terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel is he that giveth strength and power unto his people. Blessed be God.
    1 point
  39. Robb77

    Trivia

    Thanks for sharing! Didn`t know anything about that!
    1 point
  40. JoeMo

    Walter Veith

    I was raised a Catholic - a devout Catholic. I counted many priests as personal friends - still do. When I started reading the Bible for myself, I started to find many contradictions with my Catholic faith. When I would discuss this with my priest friends, the discussion would usually start out with something like "people a lot smarter than you studied scripture for longer than you've been alive. Follow the faith you have loved your whole life". As I found more and more of what I perceived to be contradictions, the debates became more heated. In the ned, they admitted that one could
    1 point
  41. Gregory Matthews

    Human Languages?

    The Z (pronounced Zed) language is a formal specification language that makes it easier to write mathematical description of complex dynamic systems such as software. The descriptions are usually smaller and simpler than any programming language can provide. They should contain a mixture of formal and informal parts.
    1 point
  42. stinsonmarri

    When will Iran attack our (US) fleet?

    You know some people try to get under you skin. They are unhappy because you will not accept their unfounded idea. They tried to bring you down to their level. I have struggle with being insulted and realize that to be like YAHSHUA return to them nothing but kindness. But show them where they are wrong. But instead becoming like them turn something unkind to something kind. That will get then even more but he didn't have anything to say when I took his word and say kindly I do read the Bible. You are right he do need to follow his advice but he can't see that. His head is in the cloud on self
    1 point
  43. Gregory Matthews

    Adventist Politics

    Editorial: Adventist Political Season Opens (spectrummagazine.org)
    1 point
  44. BlessedMan

    Standing In The Need Of Prayer

    1 point
  45. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🗣 they follow Me 🐑 John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    1 point
  46. Gregory Matthews

    Question

    Can You Find The Msitake? One = 1 Two = 2 Three = 3 Four = 4 Five = 5 Six = 6
    1 point
  47. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🌿life more abundantly 🌿 John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
    1 point
  48. BlessedMan

    Walter Veith

    I agree. Some of his earlier stuff was OK. I havnt heard the sabbath presentations you spoke about. Any chance you have a link to one of those? id be interested to listen in. 🙂
    1 point
  49. stinsonmarri

    When will Iran attack our (US) fleet?

    First of Henry Satan cannot be like any of THE ALMIGHTY ONES because he was created. He and the angels are mighty ones. Next when you quote Scripture, do not pick and choose certain part. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Rev 11:18 This verse is very clear and it speaks of THE FATHER'S WRATH because now is the time of dead that shou
    1 point
  50. phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About Jim Henson And His Muppets Jim Henson, creator of Kermit the Frog, Miss Piggy and the other Muppets who entertained and educated millions of preschoolers around the world, died on this day in 1990. Here are 5 things you may not know about Jim Henson and his Muppets... Kermit Wasn't Originally A Frog In the early days of the Muppets, the character Kermit was not a frog. His body was made out of Jim Henson’s mother’s old coat, and his eyes were made out of ping pong balls. He was introduced in 1955 on the show Sam and Friends with roundish feet i
    1 point


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