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  1. phkrause

    How old was earth BEFORE sin entered?

    That quick? Wow they could've held out for at least 2 weeks!! 😃
    3 points
  2. GHansen

    How old was earth BEFORE sin entered?

    This is the best quote that makes your point. "Days of innocence and joy is more than one day." Thanks for sharing that.
    2 points
  3. Ulunruh

    Has America Ever Been a “Christian Nation”?

    Very interesting topic. The link didn't work for me so don't know what it says there, However, in answer to the question, I don't think America was ever a "Christian nation", though if the Puritans would have been in control over more than their communities, and exerted their ideals over all of America it might have ended up as a "Christian nation" with government-controlled Christianity. at least after their concept of Christianity. Yet it is true that America was built on Protestant principles. In a large way, protestant principles shaped the culture. It is the loss of this culture that has many Christians worried. Christian Nationalism would like to see America as a Christian nation with more government and church together power and laws. Christianity Today describes it thus: The problem with that is that sooner or later the government has to decide who is, and who is not, part of that "Christian" nation, And that usually results in persecution. Remember back in history, when Constantine made peace with Christians, and later Christianity was made the religion of the empire? People rejoiced; persecution was supposedly ended. Christianity had won. Well neither was correct. Constantine wanted to unite his empire through Christianity, but very quickly learned that Christianity itself was not in unity. Almost immediately persecution was resumed, this time against groups like the Donatists and other Christian groups who didn't follow the state endorsed version of beliefs. It's a rather predictable result of religious nationalism.
    2 points
  4. Ulunruh

    How old was earth BEFORE sin entered?

    Interesting question. It's one we don't really have an answer to so I guess any answer is basically a personal original! However, I think it was more than just a weekend. We read in Patriarchs and Prophets " God saw that a Sabbath was essential for man, even in Paradise. He needed to lay aside his own interests and pursuits for one day of the seven, that he might more fully contemplate the works of God and meditate upon His power" That seems to suggest to me, that they spent several Sabbaths laying aside their own pursuits and more fully contemplating God's works. On page 50 she gives another clue that Adam engaged in work prior to his fall. "In mental and physical activity Adam found one of the highest pleasures of his holy existence." On page 51 of PP she gives another idea that Adam and Eve spent time learning about scientific wonders of creation. Then if we turn to the book Great Controversy we can deduce a few more ideas on this matter: "Adam is reinstated in his first dominion. Transported with joy, he beholds the trees that were once his delight—the very trees whose fruit he himself had gathered in the days of his innocence and joy. He sees the vines that his own hands have trained, the very flowers that he once loved to care " GC548 From those descriptions it seems they were in the garden for a while. Long enough to explore a lot of the things God had made, long enough to train vines and probably design flower gardens. But not thousands of years, probably not even a dozen years, For one thing they didn't have any children in Eden, yet once expelled they had many sons and daughters. Cain being their first child.
    2 points
  5. GHansen

    J H Kellogg & God's Nature

    What SDA doctrine are you referring to? Articles in a magazine are not necessarily official doctrine.
    2 points
  6. GHansen

    J H Kellogg & God's Nature

    A person's backside includes the buttocks but that's not what you said in your original remark. Several versions I consulted did not translate the word as buttocks. If someone says "Don't turn your back on me," normally that doesn't mean "Don't show me your buttocks." The word numbered 0268 that you say means "buttocks" is not translated as buttocks in the versions I have i.e. ESV, NRSV, ASV, ERV, KJV, LXX, WEB. Douay and others. The LXX doesn't translate it as buttocks, either. I find the idea that God having a buttocks was a fundamental truth of SDA that should be shared with the world, according to the general conference, hard to believe.
    2 points
  7. GHansen

    The Great Controversy

    Not sure what is wrong with being "anti catholic" unless it refers to hatred of individuals. I'm against the Papacy as an institution. Probably much of what EGW wrote about the papacy wanting to rule the world is correct. That doesn't mean that all RCs or every corner of Roman Catholicism is bad.
    2 points
  8. Kevin H

    The Great Controversy

    When Jesus healed the one or two men when the pigs ran into the sea; this was a pagan area. they would not have been Jews. They wanted to go and study with Jesus but Jesus had 12 good reasons to turn down their request. Instead he sent them as the first missionaries to the pagans. I wonder how comfortable we would feel if we could go back and attend their meetings or however they worked. But they shared the best they could.
    2 points
  9. GHansen

    The Great Controversy

    I noticed in mainstream media an article a few days ago about praying for the dead. Millions of people will see this article. Probably more RC evangelism than news, I hope all the people who read that nonsense could/would read the chapters in The Great Controversy on the state of the dead. Great Controversy is more of a reference book than a novel. Read a chapter here or there, learn something new or see another point of view. The spirit world hasn't passed away. Some of the things in the book are more relevant now than when the book was written. Rather than the entire book, the chapters on the state of the dead could be sent out. People interested in more could request more. I admit, however that I know very little about soul winning or evangelism. I've probably turned more people away from Christianity than I have attracted to it. I wonder what kind of evangelistic history the critics of the mailing have. How many people have become Adventist or even Christian by their influence? I'd like to know. Years ago, I attended an ethnic church. There was an elderly gentleman there, a refugee/immigrant who privately published a magazine in his language. Other people in the church were very much against what he was doing. They had various reasons why he shouldn't be allowed to do such a thing. What was the harm in it? An old guy sharing his faith as best he could. People have been converted by less sophisticated means. With God's spirit at work, a single page from GC could change a person's life, as could a single verse of Scripture.
    2 points
  10. Kevin H

    Investigative Judgement, History

    Of course God already knows. The purpose for the Investigative Judgment is a reflective twofold. Too often we study salvation as in me and my personal salvation. God is working from the great controversy theme for the safety of the entire universe. Events leading up to what ever was here turning into complete chaos lead to the two sides of the great controversy being formed; at that time God moved from purely evidence to a little bit of proof as he hovered over the chaos and said "Let there be light" both starting an amazing week; but also announcing that history was moving in a way where they could learn more things about God, thus let there be light about God. This starts the history of what was to become the fallen race. Now, although the two sides of the great controversy were formed; they did not yet close their probation. They watched the events of history, especially the life of Jesus, then his passion. At the cross all but humans closed their probation one way or another. However, even though those who choose to be faithful to God learned enough to never ever want to leave him not matter what, and having total trust in him. God is infinite, finite beings are unable to grasp all the knowledge and greatness of God; but we will be learning more and more through out eternity. In the mid-1840s earth had reached a point in history where the ancient world was starting to be re-discovered. This was the opening of a time where we could study the Bible like never before. In ancient though events in heaven and earth reflect each other. This time of deeper investigation of the pages of scripture were met by it's heavenly counterpart of God reviewing with the angels and beings from other worlds the lives of those who claimed to follow him. They see those who claimed to accept him, such as Judas, and see what God tried to do for them and what went wrong. They also see those who claimed to accept him such as Abraham, and what went right. They review the difference Jesus made in the lives of sinners on earth. This gives them a clearer understanding of just how God saves us. And in the process this gives them a clearer picture of how God saved them. This lets there be more light, more of an understanding of God. We will have these mile stones all through out eternity. This is just one of these that corresponded with the events on earth in how say the Rosetta Stone gave the key to understanding strange ancient languages; Edward Robinson's first trip the the Bible lands being published and read, which opened the door to Biblical archaeology, including coming across ancient writings and the culture and increased knowledge of the Bible which can lead to increased knowledge of God; better knowledge of ancient words in more of their richness. And of course the increased spread of knowledge that started with and grew out of the telegraph. The investigative judgment is simply Earth's history reached the changing point described above; and ancient understandings of how events in heaven and earth reflect each other opens not only for humans the chance to get to know God better through what we are learning about the ancient world, but that the heavenly counterpart can get to know God better through learning about first, whether or not we really responded to his workings on our hearts, and thus how he saves us, and this gives them a deeper knowledge of their own salvation and awakens discoveries that lead to knowledge that gives them more love for Christ.
    2 points
  11. GHansen

    The Great Controversy

    Didn't realize people in Vermont were so "slow." They were confused when they received a free book in the mail? Considering all the junk mail people receive, I'd expect them to be happy to receive some non-junk mail. Vermonters must be clever enough to use a trash can. They can put the book there if it offends them. The Great Controversy is a worthwhile book. It's a great introduction to church history and prophecy. Nothing wrong with offering people an alternative to American media and whatever other nonsense interests them. Time would be better spent reading the GC than watching TV. Leslie Hardinge got an idea for his doctoral dissertation by reading the GC. Tragic that so many SDAs despise the gifts in the church, i.e., health message, Conflict series, etc. Those books may not be perfect but they are not a bad place to start.
    2 points
  12. Gregory Matthews

    SDA History

    An Adventist history source has recently been discovered. See: https://www.lakeunionherald.org/archive/articles/unearthing-a-treasure-trove-of-adventist-documents
    2 points
  13. Gregory Matthews

    Change

    Everything Changes is a seminal article worthy of consideration by Adventists everywhere. It may be accessed at the website listed below. NOTE: This issue of Mountain Views contains other articles on this subject that are of value. https://www.rmcsda.org/editorial-everything-changes/
    2 points
  14. Gregory Matthews

    SDAs and Voting

    Politics & Voting for SDAs is considered in the following article by Nathanial Gamble of the Rocky Mountain Conference. https://www.rmcsda.org/voting-is-a-gift/
    2 points
  15. Gregory Matthews

    The Flu, COVID & RSV.

    Try this one: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-flu-rsv-symptoms-comparison-chart-rcna58523
    1 point
  16. Gregory Matthews

    The Flying Cat

    A specious object: In a news item today (November 23) a TSA Agent thought he saw a specious object in the suitcase and demanded the person open it up. It was opened, and there was the family cat! This was a surprise to the traveler.
    1 point
  17. Kevin H

    Has America Ever Been a “Christian Nation”?

    catholic Europe (yes, small "c") your religion tended to be where you were born. In the Middle East and North Africa it became the different groups of Islam; then we had areas that were Eastern Orthodox, Western Roman Catholics, and the Reformed Western Roman Catholics (Protestants); and here and there pockets of Jews which could be kicked out whenever. If you wanted to practice differently from the geography religion where you lived you either had to move or risk being persecuted. As Protestantism broke into more sections, people such as the Puritans came over to the Americas to make a geography for their religion, thus a continuation of catholic Europe. Then Roger Williams bought the state of Rhode Island with a crazy idea of liberty of conscience. William Penn wanted Pennsylvania to be a spot of catholic Europe for Quakers; but could not get enough Quakers to settle the area, so Penn took Roger William's liberty of conscience to Pennsylvania. The idea of liberty of conscience began to spread, especially in the Americas. Now, I don't know the year and if Roger William's thought influenced this, but we also started to see a break away from catholic Europe in the first settlement for Maryland, which had the state religion of Roman Catholic, however, did something very non-Catholic. On the one side of town they had all the public buildings; then you had the homes, and on the other end of town was the church. In the French Revolution, the French tried to make the French religion of catholic Europe to be secular humanism. Originally the first amendment was for no national religion for the whole country, but the states could continue their state churches. There were the ideas of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison to apply Roger Williams liberty of conscience to the whole country. When Jefferson became president people though he was going to come and take their Bibles, so many were hidden. People feared that Jefferson would follow the idea of the French Revolution and that the American religion would be enforced secular humanism. However, as liberty of conscience was implemented, churches came to realize that they had more freedom then ever before when they were paid for by and controlled the state. Liberty of conscience became part of our American freedoms. American became an open market place for religions to share what they have to offer and people out of informed consent choose the religion they found the most reasonable. A nation without king or pope. I never thought of this before; but I just got the idea that maybe we can say that America's traditional religion is Williams/Jefferson/Madison liberty of conscience, as opposed to saying that we are a Christians or a Secular nation. In recent decades there has been a growing trend to either make the United States pre-revolution catholic Europe, Sadly, I've heard that General Flynn made a statement of "One Nation, One Religion". Pushing for Evangelical Christianity to be the national religion. And we are finding others wanting to make the United States a post French Revolution secularism; where only secularism is in the open and your religious beliefs need to be kept to yourself; "Freedom From Religion" thus destroying Jefferson's open marketplace of thought including religion. In the 1800s there were people who were very grounded in the ideas of the American Revolution, especially as applied through the thoughts of Jefferson/Madison, only instead of focusing this on to politics, they focused it on to other aspects of life, including religious people applying this to religion. Before his conversion William Miller was one of these to apply this to other aspects of life, as well as politics. Then came his conversion, and the Adventist ideas that began with Joachim of Fiore, developed through the Franciscans, and Wycliff, influenced the developing Reformation, became an Adventist movement in England in the 1700s (which Sir Isaac Newton was a member) jumped the pond and in the American version this idea became welded in the minds of Miller and others to the ideals of the American Revolution, including Williams/Jefferson/Madison's liberty of conscience, and became Millerism, from which came Seventh-day Adventism. Often we start with Miller, but we would not have had adventism were it not for the ideas of someone like Joachim of Fiore, and Seventh-day Adventism would have looked a lot different were it not for Rogers/Jefferson/Madison as shaped by the age of Jackson. This background of Miller that he had when he embraced Adventism Christianity gave the Seventh-day Adventist church a larger seeing the foundational and critical importance of liberty of conscience. In addition to how those two ideas were welded together in Miller and others of the time; Millerism had influenced many denominations who had creeds that defined their beliefs. As Millerites were thrown out of their many different beloved churches for their love of Adventism as well and thus did not fit the creed; they decided to form a church where instead of a defining creed; they would have a handful of landmarks, but as long as they were not fanatical, they were free to follow the Bible to their understanding. For example, while some religions formed around that time had questions about the trinity, those other churches made their questioning of the trinity a test of fellowship. Although many of our members held similar questions, we did NOT make this a test of fellowship. You were free to become a Seventh-day Adventist whether you were or were not a trinitarian. (Later, the the trinity became the heart of Mrs. White's great controversy philosophy, and as the key to dealing with the 1888 crisis) From time to time we would give a list of beliefs more detailed than the landmarks; but instead of them being a ridged creed defining who we are; these lists were "This is the general neighborhood of beliefs where you will tend to pretty much find us" and these were purposefully written in fairly vague language to be as inclusive as possible. As we formed the 27 (later the 28) our leaders continued this same tradition- however some of them wrote an accompanying book which spelled out in clearer language how they HOPED we would understand the 27, but the vague, flexible 27 was the official and the book the suggested. (As you can guess, I get nervous when there are motions to make the language of the 28 to be made less vague.) What we have seen in this story is an application of Revelation 12, 13 and 14. The dragon in Revelation 12 is the historical chaos monster. The French Revolution's definition of freedom being the absence of law leads to chaos. Spiritualism is that you have your truth and I have mine. The philosophy of Existentialism where truth is defined by your personal existential experience. The first deception of Satan of God is really not God and thus has no right to place a law over us. In Revelation 13 we have a beast that we tend to make the pope, the pope, the pope and the Catholics. But this beast is any organized group that we allow to dictate our beliefs to us. The 7 heads are those ruling over most of God's people from the son of David (Zedekiah) until we are once again ruled over by THE SON of DAVID. These are the 7 periods of reign in place of Christ, or in Greek antichrist. 1) Babylon 2.) Medio-Persia 3.) Greece 4.) Rome 5.) The rule of the church over the middle ages, Clay in the Bible is represents that molded by God; but here the clay is molded by the iron/the state, thus a "Church State" catholic Europe. 6.) The deadly wound/the toes of iron and clay, The crowns are now on 10 horns, not on the 6th head. (Our artists should not divide the horns over all 7 heads. They are during the deadly wound, or 6th head but then shares power with the 7th head). A period of independent nations instead of a great empire, some nations offering more freedom, others more oppressive. Thus the beast is and is not and is yet to come. The beast is still there but is not because it is the deadly wound to the 6th head, but is to come in that it will be healed into the 7th head/attempt for the toes to join together. A 7th head. Later Revelation tells us that the 7th head is different from the previous. The previous ruled through warfare, conquest and power. The 7th head is the 10 horns uniting together under economic cooperation and the merchants of the earth (the corporations) are in power; although the fallen woman is riding her. This beast is a counterfeit God the Father, While to the dragon our existential experience is everything; the beast does not really care about your existential experience. The beast will tell you what to believe and your job is to comply. The lamblike beast is a counterfeit God the Son. God the Son reveals God as our personal friend and brings us into relationship with God the Father. The false prophet tells those who are uncomfortable with how they need to go against something in their conscience to comply to the beast; the false prophet says "It will be to your existential advantage to not worry about your conscience but just comply to the rules of the beast." In Revelation 14 we find a God who is the ultimate truth, but who works with were we are and who we are in our growth and existential situations, but not stopping there, but leads us into deeper and deeper understanding of him who is the way the truth the life. catholic Europe is a good picture of what the beast does. The French Revolution is a good picture of what the dragon is like. The freedom of the American Revolution, especially with Williams/Jefferson/Madison (and adjusted by the age of Jackson) and the early Adventists joining from multi religious backgrounds trying to make a church that has room for all of them, is a picture of the three angels message. The dragon and the beast are fighting to take control of this country. While Satan prefers the ideas of the French Revolution, the demons found it exhausting. They had to develop temptations to each person's situation. They hate us too much to get to know us well enough to cater to us; it is so much easier when you have an organization controlling the masses and deceive many to only a couple of temptations; as they found they were able to do in the ancient religions, in catholic Europe, and in Nazi Germany. And the false prophet gets us to compromise our conscience by telling us that it is to our existential advantage to just go along with the system and to pressure others into complying. People have poked fun at our Seventh-day Adventist picture of persecution. Today it does not seem so strange. Look at all the violence. Attacks especially against those different. Can you imagine how this will be when the state allows it?
    1 point
  18. GHansen

    J H Kellogg & God's Nature

    Andrews University Seminary Studies: Trinity Debate Part 1 (sdanet.org) Andrews University Seminary Studies: Trinity Debate Part 2 (sdanet.org)
    1 point
  19. GHansen

    J H Kellogg & God's Nature

    Where's the quote saying that Kellogg was disfellowshipped for believing in the "trinity?" Sabbath Herald October 8, 1903 (smack dab in the elmshaven years). What's that supposed to mean? Why is something EGW wrote "smack dab in the Elmshaven years" especially significant?
    1 point
  20. Gregory Matthews

    Religion & Society

    Does religion make a good citizen? The following report provides interesting answers that differ some in various nations. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/11/16/what-makes-someone-a-good-member-of-society/
    1 point
  21. GHansen

    J H Kellogg & God's Nature

    Maybe interesting to you. When you can show that Kellogg was put out of the SDA church for believing in a triune God, we might have more to discuss. You continue to post falsehoods to cover your tracks. For the most part, nothing is resolved by jumping around, skating here, there everywhere. If my interest in the topic is piqued, I'll consult other sources. Reading "Living Temple" doesn't mean you understand it or are qualified to opine on it in an authoritative manner. From what I have observed, you often play fast and loose with what you read.
    1 point
  22. phkrause

    3 word devotional

    I like the way my CJB translates that verse: For the mitzvah is a lamp, Torah is light, and reproofs that discipline are the way to life.
    1 point
  23. ReturntoDar

    Is Jesus really the Son of God?

    Jesus was God's Son before anything was created. He is of the same substance of His Father. Not adopted, the literal Son of the One true God. "A complete offering has been made; for “God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son,”—not a son by creation, as were the angels, nor a son by adoption, as is the forgiven sinner, but a Son begotten in the express image of the Father’s person, and in all the brightness of his majesty and glory, one equal with God in authority, dignity, and divine perfection. In him dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." {ST May 30, 1895, par. 3}
    1 point
  24. Ulunruh

    Investigative Judgement, History

    Cleansing of the sanctuary and the investigative judgement are terms often used for the same event. The two terms help us better understand what it's all about. Like someone suggested earlier, the understanding leans quite heavily on the old testament sanctuary shadows. The ancient Day of Atonement was also known as the day of the cleansing of the sanctuary/temple. With what was the sanctuary/ temple defiled? This is not dealing with mere physical hygienic issues; this is dealing with the principle of being cleansed from sin. Leviticus 16:16 states that this atonement for the holy place must be made because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions, for all their sins, — that is why the Priest must make this atonement for the tabernacle of meeting which stands in the midst. Obviously, the tabernacle has been defiled by the sins of the people, and on the day of atonement, the scriptures clearly state an atonement must be made for the tabernacle itself, it would be cleansed. During the Jewish year, there was an ongoing experience of sins being brought to the temple. The sanctuary needed to be cleansed because of the sins of the people which had been transferred from the confessing sinners upon the sacrificial animals throughout the year, and then transferred into the sanctuary, either by the priest sprinkling the blood, or eating the flesh of the sacrifice. On the day of atonement, an atonement is made for the tabernacle, to cleanse the sanctuary because of these sins accumulated there. The sins of the repentant people were then taken out into the wilderness, while the unrepentant were cut off from the congregation. Hebrews 9:22-23 “Almost all things are by the law purged (#2511) with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It is therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified (#2511) with these: but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.” So how do we understand this for us today? If we repent and confess our sins. We are forgiven, BECAUSE Christ's blood covers our sin. Psalm 32:1 Blessed is he whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered! Romans 4:7-8“Blessed are they whose lawless acts are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him.” Yet those sins have been transferred into the heavenly sanctuary. When those books are opened and the heavenly court is seated (Daniel 7) the first person who comes in is Jesus, the Son of man. He presents our names before the Father see Revelation 3:5 "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels." How do we get white robes? Rev. 7:14 They washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. So when those books are opened, we may shudder because we have sinned, BUT all who repented and confessed their sins, (If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1:9) will NOT face their sins, for they are covered by Christs blood, their sins will not be counted against that person. They have walked with Christ, they have trusted in Christ's blood to cover their sins,. they have been led by the Holy Spirit. Christ will confess their names before the Father and the Holy Angels and their names will stand in the book of life! The whole universe is watching, millions of angels are watching, to see whose names will remain in the book of life? Who will have their sins blotted out when the sanctuary is cleansed. But others will have their names removed, for their sins are not covered? Why? Because they never responded to God's love, with repentance and confession of sin, so Christ could not cover their sins.
    1 point
  25. Gregory Matthews

    Andy Borowitz

    Andy Borowitz writes a satirical column for the New Yorker. The following are two of his recent comments: * Melania wishes she could get divorced just by thinking about it. * Boebert warns that cancelling student debt could lead to rampant education and wonton learning.
    1 point
  26. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) Psalm 118:6 😇 The Lord is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
    1 point
  27. ReturntoDar

    J H Kellogg & God's Nature

    "What organ(s)"?: What does the bible or the SOP have to say about that? Only silence. Without a clear "thus saith the Lord" I'll leave that for others to debate. We are told Jesus is the same substance of His Father, the express image of His Father. He was begotten and brought forth from His Father. As to their internal makeup, we can only guess, and Ellen White counsels, "we ought not guess at anything". As it concerns the Holy Spirit we have no thus saith the Lord that even suggests He has any substance of any kind!
    1 point
  28. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) Ezekiel 34:16 ❤️‍🩹 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.
    1 point
  29. Theophilus

    J H Kellogg & God's Nature

    The argument of whether God has buttocks or not is by far the weirdest theological argument I've ever seen.
    1 point
  30. GHansen

    J H Kellogg & God's Nature

    This article says nothing about a buttocks. It quotes Exodus 33:23 which distinguishes the "back parts" from the face. Most versions say "You can see my back but not my face." There is a word for "buttocks" in the Bible and that word is not used in Exodus 33:23. As for Canright's articles, they reflect what he believed at that time and they were printed in the Review. Apparently, others thought they had merit. No matter. The denomination was based upon the error regarding the cleansing of the sanctuary. It was soon after its inception repudiated. Not sure how many SDA would agree with Canright's views of 100+ years ago. I do recall that we had this discussion a while back. Probably, my views are about the same, Neither EGW nor the SDA pioneers necessarily reflect my personal beliefs.
    1 point
  31. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) 2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give ; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.😇
    1 point
  32. Gregory Matthews

    The wife of a pastor.

    For thoughts on the wife of a pastor who did not measure up to expectations, see: https://atoday.org/aunt-sevvy-our-pastors-wife-doesnt-help-out-in-church/ NOTE: I once became the pastor of a congregation a member came to me and expressed hope that my wife would be more available than the previous pastor's wife. I happened to know that she had a serious illness of which the congregation had not been informed.
    1 point
  33. Gregory Matthews

    An Interesting Article

    For an interesting political article see: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-mexico-couy-griffin-trump-removed_n_6317876fe4b0faa556c1912d
    1 point
  34. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) Proverbs 28:5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things. 😅
    1 point
  35. GHansen

    The Great Controversy

    The Great Controversy's "anti-catholic" views have largely been criticized and cited as a reason for dismissing the relevance of the book. A Jesuit priest with whom I discussed the book cited its "typical 19th century anti-Catholicism." Protestant Christians should be anti-Catholic. Anti-catholicism doesn't signal ignorant, hate filled rhetoric. A distinction can be made between anti-Catholic and anti-papal. Perhaps anti-papal works better for those aware of the good people and blessings found in certain quarters of the RC church. In the 19th century, in England, there was a decided movement toward Rome, known as the Oxford Movement. Anti-Catholicism wasn't necessarily typical.
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  36. Gregory Matthews

    The Great Controversy

    I do not consider The Great Controversy to be perfect. It is not the best source of history that is available. However, I consider it to have value in its discussion of salvation and the activity of God in human life. However, I consider it to be ineffective when used in mass mailings and the funds expended are largely wasted. In addition, I believe that such mass mailings result in more negative feelings about SDAs and the message that God has given us to proclaim than Positive feelings. In prior studies of such mailings conversions have been limited to from one to four people. I have written on this in the past, but do not have the citations before me as I write now. In short: The money that we spend in such mailings is better spent in other evangelistic efforts. It sems to me that the people most in favor to such are people who are either not directly involved in evangelism, or are long removed from pastoral care, or simply are going along with the people in power because they do not want to rock the boat.
    1 point
  37. Gregory Matthews

    God

    God: For thoughts on God, see: https://atoday.org/is-god-authoritarian-should-we-be-authoritarian/
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  38. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) Psalm 46:2 Therefore will not we fear 🚫, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; 🌊
    1 point
  39. Gregory Matthews

    U. S. A Christian Nation?

    U S, A Christian nation: The following 3 research studies by Pew Research reveal some interesting trends in religious thought in the United States. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/10/27/45-of-americans-say-u-s-should-be-a-christian-nation/ https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/10/27/in-their-own-words-how-americans-describe-christian-nationalism/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/10/27/a-closer-look-at-americans-who-believe-the-u-s-should-be-a-christian-nation/
    1 point
  40. Gregory Matthews

    1,270+ Decisions

    Religious liberty: If this is a subject that interests you, the following link will take you to court decisions on more than 1,270 cases. https://religiousliberty.tv/
    1 point
  41. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) Psalm 37:25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
    1 point
  42. ReturntoDar

    Is Jesus really the Son of God?

    God (the Father of Christ, because the bible specifically says He is) does not provide "proof", all though many make that claim on any given point. God provides sufficient evidence to make an intelligent decision. Evidence suited for the common man, and yet, profoundly deep enough to challenge the highest intellect. Step 1. Take the bible just as it reads. Ask yourself, how would the common man, with no knowledge of Greek/Hebrew or deep intellectualism see and understand any given statement? There is a fine line between faith and presumption. The first leads to truth, the second leads to confusion. God is not the author of confusion. For instance, and in harmony with this thread: is God the Father of Christ, or not? This simple statment from the bible, repeated many times over, has been deeply analyzed and discussed for centuries! Intellectuals have written volumes on this question. The end result has been confusion, and the assumption that God is not really the Father of Christ after all. How do some, even many, arrive at this conclusion? Presumption, which is assumption. We ought not guess at anything.
    1 point
  43. GHansen

    Octobers 22

    The cleansing of the sanctuary is accomplished through the investigative judgment. The filth from which the sanctuary must be cleansed is actually the record of sin recorded in the Book of Remembrance. The record book is examined to see who actually lived a Christian life. Those who are found faithful remain recorded in the *Book of Life. Their sins recorded in the Book of Remembrance are blotted out. The sanctuary is defiled by the record of sin recorded in the Book of Remembrance. This is how the IJ/Cleansing of the Sanctuary was understood by early SDA writers such as J.N. Andrews and Urian Smith. See. for example, "The Sanctuary and the 2300 Days" (1877) by Smith and/or "The Judgment. "Their Events and Their Order" by Andrews (posthumously published in 1890).
    1 point
  44. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 😅
    1 point
  45. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) Ezekiel 33:15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
    1 point
  46. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    (N) Amos 5:4 🔍 For thus saith the Lord unto the house of Israel, Seek ye me, and ye shall live:
    1 point
  47. phkrause

    Tom

    Tom, welcome to this forum and like Theophilus, I also look forward to reading your devotionals!!
    1 point
  48. phkrause

    Dress Code Violation

    Sam Stern was from a wealthy family who had given a significant donation to the Jewish high school and in return it was named Stern Jewish Academy. Sam’s sons went to the school and he was coming in to meet with the principal. As was his habit, he was dressed casually in jeans and a golf shirt. Rabbi Epstein, the school principal, was walking through the halls on the way to his appointment. Seeing a student in front of him who was dressed far more casually than the school uniform allowed, Rabbi Epstein scolded the student, saying, “Dressed a little too casually for a Stern man, aren’t we?” Sam Stern turned around and said, "No, this is exactly how this Stern man dresses…”
    1 point
  49. APL

    The Trinity

    You are assuming God is a trinity. Why do you not address the scripture quoted? Scripture tells us who the "one God" is, The Father, 1 Corinthians 8:6 .
    1 point
  50. 8thdaypriest

    The Trinity

    I worship God our Father. I also worship Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, BECAUSE the Father has commanded us to worship His Son. That's it. There is no command (or example) to worship another divine being. There is no command (or example) that we should sing to, love, praise, thank, glorify, serve, bow down to, or in any other wise worship a divine being other than God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 point


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