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  1. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    SDA Evangelism

    As I understand a comment made by Gustave, he has asked for a specific date as to when the SDA Church converted from an anti-Trinitarian belief to a Trinitarian position. I consider this question to be fair and worthy of an answer. However, I do not believe that a clear, good, response can be made to this question. * Fundamental Belief # 2, in the 1988, so-called 27 Fundamental Beliefs, is a clear Trinitarian position. * Substantially all of the early SDA Founders held a view of the Godhead that was not the classic Trinitarian view held across Christianity today. * However, as I have posted before, those views were not unified. In actual fact they ranged from a mild Arian view to a total rejection of the Trinity. * Part of the problem resulted from the fact that those early SDA founders often totally misunderstood what the actual doctrine of the trinity taught. IOW, they rejected something that was not aught by the classical doctrine of the Trinity. * As an example, some (Frisbie) confused the doctrine of the Trinity with Docetism. Bates confused it with Modalistic Monarchianism. Loughborough confused it with Tritheism. * In addition, among those early founders, there was an anti-Catholic bias that associated the doctrine of the Trinity with the Catholic churches. I do not consider this to be a major aspect. But, it was present. * One suggestion has been that the SDA Church had shifted to a Trinitarian position by about 1900. * In any case, I can not give Gustave a clear, specific date for this development of SDA understanding of the Trinity. It was a progress that took place over a period of time. NOTE: I am not repeating here some aspects of this question that I have posted before. I consider the following book to be of value to consideration of this issue, but, it does not give a comprehensive, clear answer to the question as I have stated the question. Much of what I have posted above has come from this book. Paul Petersen & Rob McIver, Editors. Biblical and Theological Studies on the Trinity. Avondale Academic Press, 2014. 251 pages.
  2. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    SDA Evangelism

    EGW did teach that Christ could have failed.
  3. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Who's fooling who?

    On every day of the year domething happens. You seem to me to be looking more to the daily news than to the Bible.
  4. 3 points
    B/W Photodude

    Why are so many leaving the Church?

    The vast majority of the world and the SDA church are probably on the wide road that many will find. EGW said often that not 1 in 20 was ready for various events of the end times. Jesus stated much earlier that the was to salvation is narrow and few would find it. The love of many has grown very cold. Used to be that even in Washington that politicians showed each other respect, even when they disagreed. Now it has blown up into an all out hate fest. SDA church leaders even demonstrate hate towards each other. Being conformed to the world is one that everyone should carefully examine themselves for. There is little time to loose as events seem to be unfolding daily which shows us that the end of this age is very near. It is beyond trying to decide what army will attack who. EGW used an expression a lot ... "redeem the time." I fear there is little left to redeem.
  5. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Who's fooling who?

    HCH you are not a Noah. I am smelling something rotten.
  6. 3 points
    BlessedMan

    When Did It Become Acceptable?

    Pam; I appreciate what you said, not trying to add or subtract from it; but the part I disagreed with is the first paragraph, before the "problems list" The following list is meant to simply remind us from where we have fallen and to encourage us to renew our commitment to the culture of heaven. IF the succeeding list is actually "from where we have fallen" then Ill eat my skullcap. For me, this is a poor "interpretation" of Rev 2:5 I cannot wear a tie around my neck because of burn scar contractures. I literally feel like I am suffocating if I try to wear a tie. YET, there are churches where I could never stand up front and even just read a Bible verse, let alone preach, and why? Because I don't want to wear something that makes me feel like that. I tried to appease the "leaders" in one church and wore a tie to preach there. I saw stars and passed out. Its a good thing two elders were sitting behind me watching for mistakes, because they caught me before my head hit the floor. I asked for a glass of water, took my tie off and preached the sermon...it was something to do with "be sure your sins will find you out..."
  7. 3 points
    rudywoofs (Pam)

    When Did It Become Acceptable?

    One big problem I have with the article is that no footnotes were given to point to the source of allegations. The end result makes the whole article come across as rather histrionic, and reminds me of how anyone can proffer any sort of accusations about anyone (or any institution), and get away with it in communities of readers who subscribe to the same beliefs.... much like the Salem Witch Trials. Bottom line (for me): give extant proof of the allegations — otherwise, don't bother me with insinuations and innuendos.
  8. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Gynder Dysphoria?

    See: https://spectrummagazine.org/views/2020/there-place-bob-and-others-her-adventist-church
  9. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    SDA Evangelism

    Gustave has pointed us to the following URL, in SDA literature: https://spectrummagazine.org/article/2017/12/13/no-longer-neglected-biblical-doctrine-trinity I consider it to be of immense value to many of us and suggest that you read it.
  10. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    SDA Evangelism

    The following are two relatively recent SDA statements on the Trinity, which I have not yet read: God in Three Persons in the Old Testament, 2015. 27 page document. https://adventistbiblicalresearch.org/sites/default/files/pdf/Bediako290915.pdf God in Three Persons in Theology, 2015, 29 pages. 29 pages. https://adventistbiblicalresearch.org/sites/default/files/pdf/Donkor290915.pdf NOTE: I see that I left off the URL. where you can read the above. I will recover and post.
  11. 2 points
    BlessedMan

    Pope Francis 2020 plan is to rally Nations behind Climate change and Sunday law

    Over 100 years ago, Archbishop Quigley suggested that what power would rule when America rules?
  12. 2 points
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    📖 Sweeter than honey 🍯 Psa 119:103 How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!
  13. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    SDA Evangelism

    Standard SDA belief would agree that God knows exactly what will happen in the future. But, it would also say that God's knowledge of the future does NOT mandate that such a future will happen. As an example, Let us say that God knew that in the future, due to God's gift of "free will" to created beings, there would be a rebellion among the angelic beings, and sin would arise. But, foreknowledge did not mandate that one of the angels would rebel and it did not mandate that Adam and Eve would also sin. It is from this perspective that a SDA would agree that both the OT and the NT agree that Christ would not fail and yet at the same time such agreement does not preclude the idea that Christ could have failed. My point is to establish that area of mutual agreement (The Biblical teaching that Christ would not fail.) and to narrow the point of disagreement to the idea that Christ could have failed.
  14. 2 points
    james423

    Lesson 9 - From Contamination to Purification

    [Note: it may help to refer to the chart and comments in Friday’s lesson in the printed quarterly before undertaking the study of the lesson as a whole. The point where Daniel 8’s prophecies begin is shown in Daniel 9] Memory Text: Daniel 8:14 New King James Version 4 And he said to me, “For two thousand three hundred days; then the sanctuary shall be cleansed.” Sunday – The Ram and the Goat Daniel 8 Christian Standard Bible In the third year of King Belshazzar’s reign, a vision appeared to me, Daniel, after the one that had appeared to me earlier. 2 I saw the vision, and as I watched, I was in the fortress city of Susa, in the province of Elam. I saw in the vision that I was beside the Ulai Canal. 3 I looked up, and there was a ram standing beside the canal. He had two horns. The two horns were long, but one was longer than the other, and the longer one came up last. 4 I saw the ram charging to the west, the north, and the south. No animal could stand against him, and there was no rescue from his power. He did whatever he wanted and became great. 5 As I was observing, a male goat appeared, coming from the west across the surface of the entire earth without touching the ground. The goat had a conspicuous horn between his eyes. 6 He came toward the two-horned ram I had seen standing beside the canal and rushed at him with savage fury. 7 I saw him approaching the ram, and infuriated with him, he struck the ram, breaking his two horns, and the ram was not strong enough to stand against him. The goat threw him to the ground and trampled him, and there was no one to rescue the ram from his power. 8 Then the male goat acted even more arrogantly, but when he became powerful, the large horn was broken. Four conspicuous horns came up in its place, pointing toward the four winds of heaven. 9 From one of them a little horn emerged and grew extensively toward the south and the east and toward the beautiful land. 10 It grew as high as the heavenly army, made some of the army and some of the stars fall to the earth, and trampled them. 11 It acted arrogantly even against the Prince of the heavenly army; it revoked his regular sacrifice and overthrew the place of his sanctuary. 12 In the rebellion, the army was given up, together with the regular sacrifice. The horn threw truth to the ground and was successful in what it did. 13 Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the speaker, “How long will the events of this vision last—the regular sacrifice, the rebellion that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and of the army to be trampled?” 14 He said to me, “For 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be restored.” 15 While I, Daniel, was watching the vision and trying to understand it, there stood before me someone who appeared to be a man. 16 I heard a human voice calling from the middle of the Ulai: “Gabriel, explain the vision to this man.” 17 So he approached where I was standing; when he came near, I was terrified and fell facedown. “Son of man,” he said to me, “understand that the vision refers to the time of the end.” 18 While he was speaking to me, I fell into a deep sleep, with my face to the ground. Then he touched me, made me stand up, 19 and said, “I am here to tell you what will happen at the conclusion of the time of wrath, because it refers to the appointed time of the end. 20 The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia. 21 The shaggy goat represents the king of Greece, and the large horn between his eyes represents the first king. 22 The four horns that took the place of the broken horn represent four kingdoms. They will rise from that nation, but without its power. 23 Near the end of their kingdoms, when the rebels have reached the full measure of their sin, a ruthless king, skilled in intrigue, will come to the throne. 24 His power will be great, but it will not be his own. He will cause outrageous destruction and succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the powerful along with the holy people. 25 He will cause deceit to prosper through his cunning and by his influence, and in his own mind he will exalt himself. He will destroy many in a time of peace; he will even stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be broken—not by human hands. 26 The vision of the evenings and the mornings that has been told is true. Now you are to seal up the vision because it refers to many days in the future.” 27 I, Daniel, was overcome and lay sick for days. Then I got up and went about the king’s business. I was greatly disturbed by the vision and could not understand it. Monday – The Rise of the Little Horn Daniel 8:8-12 Good News Translation 8 The goat grew more and more arrogant, but at the height of his power his horn was broken. In its place four prominent horns came up, each pointing in a different direction. 9 Out of one of these four horns grew a little horn, whose power extended toward the south and the east and toward the Promised Land. 10 It grew strong enough to attack the army of heaven, the stars themselves, and it threw some of them to the ground and trampled on them. 11 It even defied the Prince of the heavenly army, stopped the daily sacrifices offered to him, and ruined the Temple. 12 People sinned there instead of offering the proper daily sacrifices, and true religion was thrown to the ground. The horn was successful in everything it did. Tuesday – The Attack on the Sanctuary Daniel 8:10-12 – New Living Translation 10 Its power reached to the heavens, where it attacked the heavenly army, throwing some of the heavenly beings and some of the stars to the ground and trampling them. 11 It even challenged the Commander of heaven’s army by canceling the daily sacrifices offered to him and by destroying his Temple. 12 The army of heaven was restrained from responding to this rebellion. So the daily sacrifice was halted, and truth was overthrown. The horn succeeded in everything it did. Daniel 8:10 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Stamped upon them. This has reference to the fury with which Rome has persecuted the people of God so often throughout the centuries. In the days of the tyrants Nero, Decius, and Diocletian in pagan times, and again in papal times, Rome has never hesitated to deal harshly with those whom she chooses to condemn. Wednesday – The Cleansing of the Sanctuary Daniel 8:14 English Standard Version And he said to me, “For 2,300 evenings and mornings. Then the sanctuary shall be restored to its rightful state.” Hebrews 9:23-28 Easy-to-Read Version 23 These things are copies of the real things that are in heaven. These copies had to be made clean by animal sacrifices. But the real things in heaven must have much better sacrifices. 24 Christ went into the Most Holy Place. But it was not the man-made one, which is only a copy of the real one. He went into heaven, and he is there now before God to help us. 25 The high priest enters the Most Holy Place once every year. He takes with him blood to offer. But he does not offer his own blood like Christ did. Christ went into heaven, but not to offer himself many times like the high priest offers blood again and again. 26 If Christ had offered himself many times, he would have needed to suffer many times since the time the world was made. But he came to offer himself only once. And that once is enough for all time. He came at a time when the world is nearing an end. He came to take away all sin by offering himself as a sacrifice. 27 Everyone must die once. Then they are judged. 28 So Christ was offered as a sacrifice one time to take away the sins of many people. And he will come a second time, but not to offer himself for sin. He will come the second time to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. Daniel 8:14 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY The services in the wilderness tabernacle and in the Temple consisted of two main divisions, the daily and the yearly. Christ’s daily ministration as our high priest was typified in the daily services. The annual Day of Atonement typified a work that Christ would undertake at the close of the age… The prophecy of Dan. 8:14 announces the time for the beginning of this special work. The cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary comprehends the entire work of final judgment, beginning with the investigative phase and ending with the executive phase, which results in the permanent eradication of sin from the universe Thursday – The Prophetic Timetable Daniel 8:13 New Living Translation Then I heard two holy ones talking to each other. One of them asked, “How long will the events of this vision last? How long will the rebellion that causes desecration stop the daily sacrifices? How long will the Temple and heaven’s army be trampled on?”
  15. 2 points
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Many infallible proofs 👑 Act 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
  16. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Daniel Revisited

    Sounds like so many other non-Adventist churches as they try to explain away the book of Daniel. If the "errors" were so far off base, perhaps they would have been corrected over a hundred fifty years ago. Of course, you have to really believe that EGW was actually receiving visions from God. I am aware that much understanding of Daniel did not come from visions. I tend to agree with one pastor who said three times in this earth's history God raised up a movement and his third movement was the Seventh-day Adventist church. The author of this article seems to want to kick out the legs of one of our most important prophetic beliefs. As one pastor said, "The Seventh-day Adventist faith claims one verse as our own." No one pays much attention to Daniel 8:14 And to deny the seventy week prophecy as being related to the ministry and death of Jesus?! Another prophecy that people may not believe is one that in the end times people would be deceived by seducing doctrines. So, I think I will stick with the historical (as laid out by the pioneers of the SDA church) Adventist approach to prophecy.
  17. 2 points
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    On things above 🌈 Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
  18. 2 points
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Bring the firstfruits 🍇 Neh 10:35 And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of the LORD: 💰
  19. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    All Things Brain …

    Brain and Brawn: Hitting the Gym Slows Neurodegeneration in Older People At Risk of Alzheimer's For the first time, an intervention - lifting weights - has been able to slow and even halt degeneration, over a long period, in brain areas particularly vulnerable to Alzheimer's disease. Researchers have found that six months of strength training (lifting weights) can help protect brain areas especially vulnerable to Alzheimer’s disease up to one year later. https://www.technologynetworks.com/neuroscience/news/brain-and-brawn-hitting-the-gym-slows-neurodegeneration-in-older-people-at-risk-of-alzheimers-330905
  20. 2 points
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🔥 Light to shine ✨ 2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
  21. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Who's fooling who?

    On 2/15/2020 at 6:26 PM, B/W Photodude said: I am more concerned regarding the usual influenza virus that go around every year killing on average 19,000 in just the US ... A little housekeeping here: HCH: When quoting someone, it is good to stick to the topic of what you quoted! What you wrote had NOTHING to do with concerns regarding the flu! A correction: The flu death average in the US is 10,000 per year. 19,000 was a typo. Coronavirus update: How Bad Is the Coronavirus Outbreak Becoming? The short answer is, in terms of deaths at least, the current coronavirus outbreak is not as bad as it was initially predicted. https://www.technologynetworks.com/immunology/articles/how-bad-is-the-coronavirus-outbreak-becoming-330774 Interesting: We have a prototype device tested to try and detect MERS coronavirus infection, but it’s still experimental. We are currently working on proposals to adopt this as fast as possible for use with the current coronavirus outbreak, 2019-nCoV, and SARS” concluded Dr Edwards. They have drawn connections to mers & sars!
  22. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Who's fooling who?

    What is clear is that HCH is not presenting a Biblical teaching. His message is more from his reading of the newspaper than from the Bible. However I will grsnt that he has a vivid imagination that exceeds that those of us reading his posts. He might actually do well as a novelist if he were to chose to write such.
  23. 2 points
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Word of truth 📖 2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
  24. 2 points
    dgrimm60

    Why are so many leaving the Church?

    HEY ALL as the time is coming to and end the devil and his demons are working over time to take as many people with him====that is why we need to have the Holy Spirit guiding our life and he our life==== dgrimm60
  25. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Why are so many leaving the Church?

    Why are so many leaving the Church? Something central seems to be missing. https://record.adventistchurch.com/2020/02/14/why-are-so-many-leaving-the-church/
  26. 2 points
    james423

    Lesson 8 - From the Stormy Sea to the Clouds of Heaven

    Memory Text: Daniel 7:27 New Living Translation Then the sovereignty, power, and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will last forever, and all rulers will serve and obey him.” Sunday – Four Animals Daniel 7 New International Reader’s Version It was the first year that Belshazzar was king of Babylon. Daniel had a dream. He was lying in bed. In his dream, visions passed through his mind. He wrote down what he saw. 2 Daniel said, “I had a vision at night. I looked up and saw the four winds of heaven. They were stirring up the Mediterranean Sea. 3 Four large animals came up out of the sea. Each one was different from the others. 4 “The first animal was like a lion. It had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off. Then it was lifted up from the ground. It stood on two feet like a human being. And the mind of a human being was given to it. 5 “I saw a second animal. It looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides. And it had three ribs between its teeth. It was told, ‘Get up! Eat meat until you are full!’ 6 “After that, I saw another animal. It looked like a leopard. On its back were four wings like the wings of a bird. The animal I saw had four heads. And it was given authority to rule. 7 “After that, in my vision I looked up and saw a fourth animal. It was terrifying and very powerful. It had large iron teeth. It crushed those it attacked and ate them up. It stomped on anything that was left. It was different from the other animals. And it had ten horns. 8 “I thought about the horns. Then I saw another horn. It was a little one. It grew up among the other horns. Three of the first horns were pulled up by their roots to make room for it. The little horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being. Its mouth was always bragging. 9 “As I watched, “thrones were set in place. The Eternal God took his seat. His clothes were as white as snow. The hair on his head was white like wool. His throne was blazing with fire. And flames were all around its wheels.10 A river of fire was flowing. It was coming out from in front of God. Thousands and thousands of angels served him. Millions of them stood in front of him. The court was seated. And the books were opened. 11 “Then I continued to watch because of the way the horn was bragging. I kept looking until the fourth animal was killed. I watched until its body was destroyed. It was thrown into the blazing fire. 12 The authority of the other animals had been stripped away from them. But they were allowed to live for a period of time. 13 “In my vision I saw one who looked like a son of man. He was coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Eternal God. He was led right up to him. 14 And he was given authority, glory and a kingdom. People of all nations, no matter what language they spoke, worshiped him. His authority will last forever. It will not pass away. His kingdom will never be destroyed. 15 “My spirit was troubled. The visions that passed through my mind upset me. 16 I approached an angel who was standing there. I asked him what all these things really meant. “So he explained to me what everything meant. 17 He said, ‘The four large animals stand for four kings. The kings will appear on the earth. 18 But the holy people of the Most High God will receive the kingdom. They will possess it forever. It will belong to them for ever and ever.’ 19 “Then I wanted to know what the fourth animal stood for. It was different from the others. It was the most terrifying of all. It had iron teeth and bronze claws. It crushed everyone it attacked and ate them up. It stomped on anything that was left. 20 I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head. And I wanted to know about the other horn that grew up later. It caused three of the ten horns to fall out. It appeared to be stronger than the others. It had eyes. And its mouth was always bragging. 21 I saw that the horn was at war with God’s holy people. It was winning the battle over them. 22 But then the Eternal God came. He decided in favor of his holy people. So the time came when the kingdom was given to them. 23 “Here’s how the angel explained it to me. He said, ‘The fourth animal stands for a fourth kingdom. It will appear on earth. It will be different from the other kingdoms. It will eat up the whole earth. It will stomp on it and crush it. 24 The ten horns stand for ten kings. They will come from the fourth kingdom. After them another king will appear. He will be different from the earlier ones. He’ll bring three kings under his control. 25 He’ll speak against the Most High God. He’ll treat God’s holy people badly. He will try to change the times and laws that were given by God. God’s holy people will be placed under his power for three and a half years. 26 “ ‘But the court will be seated. And the power of that king will be taken away from him. It will be completely destroyed forever. 27 Then the authority, power and greatness of all the kingdoms on earth will be taken from them. And all they had will be given to the holy people of the Most High God. His kingdom will last forever. Every ruler will worship and obey him.’ 28 “That’s all I saw. My thoughts deeply troubled me. My face turned pale. But I kept those things to myself.” Monday – The Little Horn Daniel 7:7-8 New Living Translation 7 Then in my vision that night, I saw a fourth beast—terrifying, dreadful, and very strong. It devoured and crushed its victims with huge iron teeth and trampled their remains beneath its feet. It was different from any of the other beasts, and it had ten horns. 8 As I was looking at the horns, suddenly another small horn appeared among them. Three of the first horns were torn out by the roots to make room for it. This little horn had eyes like human eyes and a mouth that was boasting arrogantly. Daniel 7:19-25 Christian Standard Bible 19 “Then I wanted to be clear about the fourth beast, the one different from all the others, extremely terrifying, with iron teeth and bronze claws, devouring, crushing, and trampling with its feet whatever was left. 20 I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three fell—the horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spoke arrogantly, and that looked bigger than the others. 21 As I was watching, this horn waged war against the holy ones and was prevailing over them 22 until the Ancient of Days arrived and a judgment was given in favor of the holy ones of the Most High, for the time had come, and the holy ones took possession of the kingdom. 23 “This is what he said: ‘The fourth beast will be a fourth kingdom on the earth, different from all the other kingdoms. It will devour the whole earth, trample it down, and crush it. 24 The ten horns are ten kings who will rise from this kingdom. Another king, different from the previous ones, will rise after them and subdue three kings. 25 He will speak words against the Most High and oppress [Lit wear out] the holy ones of the Most High. He will intend to change religious festivals [Lit change times] and laws, and the holy ones will be handed over to him for a time, times, and half a time. [ Or for three and a half years] 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 Easy-to-Read Version Brothers and sisters, we have something to say about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. We want to talk to you about that time when we will meet together with him. 2 Don’t let yourselves be easily upset or worried if you hear that the day of the Lord has already come. Someone might say that this idea came from us—in something the Spirit told us, or in something we said, or in a letter we wrote. 3 Don’t be fooled by anything they might say. That day of the Lord will not come until the turning away from God happens. And that day will not come until the Man of Evil appears, the one who belongs to hell.[a] 4 He will stand against and put himself above everything that people worship or think is worthy of worship. He will even go into God’s Temple and sit there, claiming that he is God. 5 I told you before that all these things would happen. Remember? 6 And you know what is stopping that Man of Evil now. He is being stopped now so that he will appear at the right time. 7 The secret power of evil is already working in the world now. But there is one who is stopping that secret power of evil. And he will continue to stop it until he is taken out of the way. 8 Then that Man of Evil will appear. But the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath that comes from his mouth. The Lord will come in a way that everyone will see, and that will be the end of the Man of Evil. 9 When that Man of Evil comes, it will be the work of Satan. He will come with great power, and he will do all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders. 10 The Man of Evil will use every kind of evil to fool those who are lost. They are lost because they refused to love the truth and be saved. 11 So God will send them something powerful that leads them away from the truth and causes them to believe a lie. 12 They will all be condemned because they did not believe the truth and because they enjoyed doing evil. Tuesday – The Court Was Seated Daniel 7:13-14 God’s WORD Translation 13 In my visions during the night, I saw among the clouds in heaven someone like the Son of Man.[a] He came to the Ancient One, who has lived for endless years, and was presented to him. 14 He was given power, honor, and a kingdom. People from every province, nation, and language were to serve him. His power is an eternal power that will not be taken away. His kingdom will never be destroyed. Daniel 7:21-22 New Century Version 21 As I watched, the little horn began making war against God’s holy people and was defeating them 22 until God, who has been alive forever, came. He judged in favor of the holy people who belong to the Most High God; then the time came for them to receive the power to rule. Daniel 7:26-27 God’s WORD Translation 26 But judgment will be handed down, his power will be taken away, and he will be completely and permanently destroyed. 27 The kingdom, along with the power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven, will be given to the holy people of the Most High. Their kingdom is eternal. All other powers will serve and obey them. Romans 8:1 Contemporary English Version If you belong to Christ Jesus, you won’t be punished. Wednesday – The Coming of the Son of Man Daniel 7:13 New Living Translation As my vision continued that night, I saw someone like a son of man coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient One and was led into his presence. Mark 13:26 Holman Christian Standard Bible Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. Matthew 8:20 Christian Standard Bible Jesus told him, “Foxes have dens, and birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head. Matthew 9:6 God’s WORD Translation I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” Then he said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, pick up your stretcher, and go home.” Luke 9:26 New Century Version If people are ashamed of me and my teaching, then the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and with the glory of the Father and the holy angels. Luke 12:8 New International Reader’s Version What about someone who says in front of others that he knows me? I tell you, the Son of Man will say in front of God’s angels that he knows that person. Thursday – The Holy Ones of the Most High Daniel 7:18 New International Version But the holy people of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever—yes, for ever and ever.’ Daniel 7:21-22 – See Sunday or Tuesday for this text. Daniel 7:25 – See Sunday or Monday for this text. Daniel 7:27 – See Sunday or Tuesday for this text.
  27. 2 points
    BlessedMan

    Pope Francis 2020 plan is to rally Nations behind Climate change and Sunday law

    dont be too quick to opine here. I am very exhausted from looking after a terminally ill family member and do not have time/energy to reply to most things that I could if I had more energy. Its not easy to see behind the scenes and what is really going on with people. We should just stick with the subject/s of the OP.
  28. 2 points
    BlessedMan

    Pope Francis 2020 plan is to rally Nations behind Climate change and Sunday law

    Greetings @stinsonmarri I believe that history can and does repeat itself, and that it incrementally gets worse, every time we fail to learn the lesson that God would have us know. I think this is something that is clearly reflected in scripture: This text clearly shows that after repeated failure to learn what we need to, things keep getting worse each time. The opportunity is always there for people to say yes to Jesus. Some take longer than others, thats why history not only repeats itself; but also incrementally presents us with more severe events by which to learn about God and know Him.
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    BlessedMan

    Pope Francis 2020 plan is to rally Nations behind Climate change and Sunday law

    The Old and New Testaments are linked together by the golden clasp of God. We need to become familiar with the Old-Testament Scriptures. The unchangeableness of God should be clearly seen; the similarity of his dealings with his people of the past dispensation and of the present, should be studied. Under the inspiration of the Spirit of God, Solomon wrote, "That which hath been is now: and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past." In mercy God repeats his past dealings. He has given us a record of his dealings in the past. This we need to study carefully; for history is repeating itself. We are more accountable than were those whose experience is recorded in the Old Testament; for their mistakes, and the results of those mistakes, have been chronicled for our benefit. The danger-signal has been lifted to keep us off forbidden ground, and we should be warned not to do as they did, lest a worse punishment come upon us. The blessings given to those of past generations who obeyed God are recorded that we may be encouraged to walk circumspectly, in faith and obedience. The judgments brought against wrong-doers are delineated that we may fear and tremble before God. This Scripture biography is a great blessing. This precious instruction, the experience of ages, is bequeathed to us. {RH, April 20, 1897 par. 14}
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Sinneth not 😌 1John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 😢
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    📜 It is written 📖 Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. 💖 no takers on my question... I've got a little bit of time to decide if I should continue or not when we are on holiday
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Lord, save me 👋 Mat 14:30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
  33. 2 points
    Stan

    British Columbia Church

    Here is a video I produced 13+ years ago..
  34. 2 points
    james423

    Lesson 7 - From the Lions' Den to the Angel's Den

    Memory Text: Daniel 6:4 New King James Version So the governors and satraps sought to find some charge against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find no charge or fault, because he was faithful; nor was there any error or fault found in him. Sunday – Jealous Souls Daniel 6:1-5 Good News Translation Darius decided to appoint a hundred and twenty governors to hold office throughout his empire. 2 In addition, he chose Daniel and two others to supervise the governors and to look after the king's interests. 3 Daniel soon showed that he could do better work than the other supervisors or the governors. Because he was so outstanding, the king considered putting him in charge of the whole empire. 4 Then the other supervisors and the governors tried to find something wrong with the way Daniel administered the empire, but they couldn't, because Daniel was reliable and did not do anything wrong or dishonest. 5 They said to each other, “We are not going to find anything of which to accuse Daniel unless it is something in connection with his religion. Daniel 6:4 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY In his plans to elevate Daniel to the highest civil office in the state, the king doubtless acted in the interests of the crown and of the empire. However, he failed to take into account the feelings of jealousy that would naturally be aroused among the Median and Persian dignitaries when a Jew, a former minister of the Babylonians, occupied a position that, according to their expectations, should be theirs. Genesis 37:11 Common English Bible His brothers were jealous of him, but his father took careful note of the matter. 1 Samuel 18:6-9 Christian Standard Bible 6 As the troops were coming back, when David was returning from killing the Philistine, the women came out from all the cities of Israel to meet King Saul, singing and dancing with tambourines, with shouts of joy, and with three-stringed instruments. 7 As they danced, the women sang: Saul has killed his thousands, but David his tens of thousands. 8 Saul was furious and resented this song “They credited tens of thousands to David,” he complained, “but they only credited me with thousands. What more can he have but the kingdom?” 9 So Saul watched David jealously from that day forward. Monday – The Plot Against Daniel Daniel 6:6-9 New Living Translation 6 So the administrators and high officers went to the king and said, “Long live King Darius! 7 We are all in agreement—we administrators, officials, high officers, advisers, and governors—that the king should make a law that will be strictly enforced. Give orders that for the next thirty days any person who prays to anyone, divine or human—except to you, Your Majesty—will be thrown into the den of lions. 8 And now, Your Majesty, issue and sign this law so it cannot be changed, an official law of the Medes and Persians that cannot be revoked.” 9 So King Darius signed the law. Tuesday – Daniel’s Prayer Matthew 6:6 New English Translation But whenever you pray, go into your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you. Daniel 6:10 New Century Version Even though Daniel knew that the new law had been written, he went to pray in an upstairs room in his house, which had windows that opened toward Jerusalem. Three times each day Daniel would kneel down to pray and thank God, just as he always had done. Daniel 6:10 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Daniel’s house probably had a flat roof, like the majority of both ancient and modern houses in Mesopotamia. Usually on one corner there is an apartment raised above the flat roof that contains latticed windows for ventilation. Such rooms provided ideal places of seclusion. Acts 5:27-32 Modern English Version 27 When they had brought them, they stood them before the Sanhedrin. And the high priest questioned them, 28 saying, “Did we not strictly command you not to teach in this name? Yet now you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you intend to bring on us this Man’s blood.” 29 Peter and the other apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men. 30 The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging on a tree. 31 God exalted this Man to His right hand to be a Ruler and a Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. 32 We are His witnesses to these words, as is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him. Wednesday – In the Lions’ Den Daniel 6:11-23 God’s Word Translation 11 One of those times the men came in as a group and found Daniel praying and pleading to his God. 12 Then they went and spoke to the king about his decree. They asked, “Didn’t you sign a decree which stated that for 30 days whoever asks for anything from any god or person except you, Your Majesty, will be thrown into a lions’ den?” The king answered, “That’s true. According to the law of the Medes and Persians the decree can’t be repealed.” 13 They replied, “Your Majesty, Daniel, one of the captives from Judah, refuses to obey your order or the decree that you signed. He prays three times each day.” 14 The king was very displeased when he heard this. He tried every way he could think of to save Daniel. Until sundown he did everything he could to rescue him. 15 Then Daniel’s accusers gathered in front of the king. They said to him, “Remember, Your Majesty, the Medes and Persians have a law that no decree or statute the king makes can be changed.” 16 So the king gave the order, and Daniel was brought to him and thrown into the lions’ den. The king told Daniel, “May your God, whom you always worship, save you!” 17 A stone was brought and placed over the opening of the den. The king put his seal on the stone, using his ring and the rings of his nobles, so that Daniel’s situation could not be changed. 18 Then the king went to his palace and spent the night without food or company. He couldn’t get to sleep. 19 At dawn, as soon as it was light, the king got up and quickly went to the lions’ den. 20 As he came near the den where Daniel was, the king called to Daniel with anguish in his voice, “Daniel, servant of the living God! Was God, whom you always worship, able to save you from the lions?” 21 Daniel said to the king, “Your Majesty, may you live forever! 22 My God sent his angel and shut the lions’ mouths so that they couldn’t hurt me. He did this because he considered me innocent. Your Majesty, I haven’t committed any crime.” 23 The king was overjoyed and had Daniel taken out of the den. When Daniel was taken out of the den, people saw that he was completely unharmed because he trusted his God. Daniel 6:11 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY The plotters did not have to wait long to see Daniel disregard the king’s prohibition. Decree or no decree, this man of God felt that he should continue his regular prayer habits. God was to him the source of all his wisdom and success in life. The favor of Heaven was dearer to him than life itself. His conduct was the natural result of his trust in God. Daniel 6:17 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY The official sealing by the king and his lords had a twofold purpose. It served as a guarantee to the king that Daniel would not be killed by any other means, in case he was not harmed by the lions. Because Darius hoped that Daniel’s God would save His faithful servant from the lions, he would naturally want to take precautions against any interference on the part of the men who were determined to take Daniel’s life. On the other hand the seal provided assurance to Daniel’s enemies that no attempt could be made to save him, in the event he was not immediately torn to pieces by the wild animals. Mark 6:14-29 Contemporary English Version 14 Jesus became so well-known that Herod the ruler heard about him. Some people thought he was John the Baptist, who had come back to life with the power to work miracles. 15 Others thought he was Elijah or some other prophet who had lived long ago. 16 But when Herod heard about Jesus, he said, “This must be John! I had his head cut off, and now he has come back to life.” 17-18 Herod had earlier married Herodias, the wife of his brother Philip. But John had told him, “It isn’t right for you to take your brother’s wife!” So, in order to please Herodias, Herod arrested John and put him in prison. 19 Herodias had a grudge against John and wanted to kill him. But she could not do it 20 because Herod was afraid of John and protected him. He knew that John was a good and holy man. Even though Herod was confused by what John said, he was glad to listen to him. And he often did. 21 Finally, Herodias got her chance when Herod gave a great birthday celebration for himself and invited his officials, his army officers, and the leaders of Galilee. 22 The daughter of Herodias came in and danced for Herod and his guests. She pleased them so much that Herod said, “Ask for anything, and it’s yours! 23 I swear that I will give you as much as half of my kingdom, if you want it.” 24 The girl left and asked her mother, “What do you think I should ask for?” Her mother answered, “The head of John the Baptist!” 25 The girl hurried back and told Herod, “Right now on a platter I want the head of John the Baptist!” 26 The king was very sorry for what he had said. But he did not want to break the promise he had made in front of his guests. 27 At once he ordered a guard to cut off John’s head there in prison. 28 The guard put the head on a platter and took it to the girl. Then she gave it to her mother. 29 When John’s followers learned that he had been killed, they took his body and put it in a tomb. Thursday – Vindication Daniel 6:24-28 Holman Christian Standard Bible 24 The king then gave the command, and those men who had maliciously accused Daniel were brought and thrown into the lions’ den—they, their children, and their wives. They had not reached the bottom of the den before the lions overpowered them and crushed all their bones. 25 Then King Darius wrote to those of every people, nation, and language who live in all the earth: “May your prosperity abound. 26 I issue a decree that in all my royal dominion, people must tremble in fear before the God of Daniel: For He is the living God, and He endures forever; His kingdom will never be destroyed, and His dominion has no end. 27 He rescues and delivers; He performs signs and wonders in the heavens and on the earth, for He has rescued Daniel from the power of the lions.” 28 So Daniel prospered during the reign of Darius and the reign of Cyrus the Persian. Daniel 6:28 COMMENTARY BY ADAM CLARKE He had served five kings: Nebuchadnezzar, Evil-merodach, Belshazzar, Darius, and Cyrus. Few courtiers have had so long a reign, served so many masters without flattering any, been more successful in their management of public affairs.. Daniel 6:24 New International Reader’s Version Then the king gave another order. The men who had said bad things about Daniel were brought in. They were thrown into the lions’ den. So were their wives and children. Before they hit the bottom of the den, the lions attacked them. And the lions crushed all their bones. Daniel 6:24 COMMENTARY BY ADAM CLARKE It was perfectly just that they should suffer that death to which they had endeavoured to subject the innocent; but it was savage cruelty to destroy the women and children who had no part in the transgression. 1 Corinthians 4:5 Tree of Life Version Therefore do not judge anything before the time—wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light the things hidden in darkness and also make clear the motives of the hearts. Then the praise for each one will come from God.
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    BlessedMan

    SDA Evangelism

    IF its a christian doctrine, there would be no such thing of one without "having Jesus." There are some that definitely do not "have Jesus" and are expressly not Christian, no matter how many Bible verses are quoted.
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    Gregory Matthews

    SDA Evangelism

    It is fine to disagree with me. I do not have a problem with that. Notice that's I have defined "salvific" in terms of knowledge required to be saved. If you intend to say that salvation is based upon knowledge, you may be trending toward Gnosticism. I do not beleve that salvation is limited to people who have obtained a specified level of knowledge--Babies for example.
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    Gregory Matthews

    SDA Evangelism

    In regard to some of the questions asked by Gustave, I shall make a few comments, which will be listed in no order of priority: * There is a conservative group within Adventism (I mean here the SDA denomination.) that looks to the past, to say the methods (and themes) that brought converts in the past, should be the methods and themes that we should use today. * These methods and themes should include today, distinctive doctrines (Sabbath, soul sleep, etc.) and horns, beasts and numbers. * It is generally believed that in the foundational days of the SDA denomination, the general population of the U.S. was informed of, and in agreement with, the core beliefs of Christianity. Therefore, those core beliefs did not need to be an instructional part of evangelism. NOTE: As an exception, it must be stated that the early leaders of what became the SDA denomination, did not have a united understanding of the Trinity as a core Christian belief. * It should also be stated that the early foundational leaders, with some exceptions, of the SDA denomination were often very young people, who came from a varied denominational background, and had no understanding of what are considered to be core issues faced by the developing Christian religion. A major example is the doctrine of the Trinity. (James and Ellen White are examples among others of youthful founders of this denomination.) * SDAs today may not understand the developmental process by which this denomination has established doctrinal positions. At a time when some agreement had been reached related to the proscribed foods of Leviticus 11, there was disagreement as to the exact composition of those foods. As an example, probably few SDAs understand, although it has been published, that Ellen White enjoyed eating clams and personally considered clams to she comfort foods in times when she felt ill. NOTE: I consider this to be one example that demonstrates that the personal beliefs of Ellen White were not the foundational source of SDA beliefs. * SDAs developed their five (5) foundational beliefs in what are typically called five Sabbath Conferences as they were held at conferences on the Sabbath. Those five beliefs were all distinctive and not considered to be core beliefs of Christianity. * There is a segment of the SDA denomination that believes that the population of the U.S. can not be assumed to be informed of and in agreement with, the core beliefs of Christianity. Therefore, they believe that evangelism must be focused first on the basics of Christianity, with a primary focus on Christ, his death on the cross, and an actual conversion to Christ. * One example of this is what has been called "The One Project." This group has been controversial due to the fact that it has primarily focused on SDA members as it has suggested that SDA members have needed to re-focus on basic doctrines of Christ and the cross. NOTE: As a point of disclosure, I am a strong supporter of what was The One Project. * As to what is salvific (necessary to be believed if one is to be saved), further definition must be made as to the various groups that exist within Adventism, as I do not believe that only one group exists. * Some, within Adventism, will suggest that the core salvific doctrines are those that relate to Christ and the cross. Everything else is not salvific. Others may appear to add a little beyond Christ and the cross. * On a personal basis, when I am summing up Christianity I will say that the core beliefs are limited to Christ and the cross, with no other doctrines being salvific. * However, when I expand to give a more detailed response I suggest that there are no doctrines that are salvific. I consider God''s plan of salvation to include all people with no exceptions. This includes new-born babies who have never accepted any doctrinal position. Salvation is not determined by a lack of ignorance. It includes adults who have never heard of Christ. In brief, I consider that salvation depends upon the response that one has made to the leading of the Holy Spirit. It does NOT depend upon what the Holy Spirit has not yet done for a person. * I will sum up my understanding of salvation: Salvation is a choice that each makes, within the limits of their knowledge, as to whether or not one choses to spend eternity with God. Each is allowed to make their choice. One who choses to spend it with God is allowed to do so. One who choses not to spend it with God, ceases to exist. Each person has an equal opportunity to be saved. * As I see it, my task, is not to convert people to my way of thinking. Conversion is the work of the Holy Spirit. Rather, my task is to build relationships that the Holy Spirit can use to encourage people to chose to spend eternity with God--IOW to be converted.
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🌹 Alive unto God Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
  39. 2 points
    james423

    Lesson 6 - From Arrogance to Destruction

    Memory Text: Daniel 2:21 Good News Translation He controls the times and the seasons; he makes and unmakes kings; it is he who gives wisdom and understanding. Sunday – Belshazzar’s Feast Daniel 5:1-4 Contemporary English Version One evening, King Belshazzar gave a great banquet for a thousand of his highest officials, and he drank wine with them. 2 He got drunk and ordered his servants to bring in the gold and silver cups his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken from the temple in Jerusalem. Belshazzar wanted the cups, so that he and all his wives and officials could drink from them. 3-4 When the gold cups were brought in, everyone at the banquet drank from them and praised their idols made of gold, silver, bronze, iron, wood, and stone. Daniel 1:1-2 New English Translation In the third year of the reign of King Jehoiakim of Judah, King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon advanced against Jerusalem and laid it under siege. 2 Now the Lord delivered King Jehoiakim of Judah into his power, along with some of the vessels of the temple of God. He brought them to the land of Babylonia to the temple of his god and put the vessels in the treasury of his god. Revelation 17:4-6 New Century Version 4 The woman was dressed in purple and red and was shining with the gold, precious jewels, and pearls she was wearing. She had a golden cup in her hand, a cup filled with evil things and the uncleanness of her sexual sin. 5 On her forehead a title was written that was secret. This is what was written: “the great Babylon / mother of prostitutes / and of the evil things of the earth." 6 Then I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people and with the blood of those who were killed because of their faith in Jesus. When I saw the woman, I was very amazed. Monday – An Uninvited Guest Daniel 5:5-8 New Living Translation 5 Suddenly, they saw the fingers of a human hand writing on the plaster wall of the king’s palace, near the lampstand. The king himself saw the hand as it wrote, 6 and his face turned pale with fright. His knees knocked together in fear and his legs gave way beneath him. 7 The king shouted for the enchanters, astrologers, and fortune-tellers to be brought before him. He said to these wise men of Babylon, “Whoever can read this writing and tell me what it means will be dressed in purple robes of royal honor and will have a gold chain placed around his neck. He will become the third highest ruler in the kingdom!” 8 But when all the king’s wise men had come in, none of them could read the writing or tell him what it meant. Psalm 96:5 New International Version For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the Lord made the heavens. Colossians 1:15-17 Modern English Version 15 He is the image of the invisible God and the firstborn of every creature. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they are thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers. All things were created by Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. Tuesday – Enter the Queen Daniel 5:9-12 Good News Translation 9 In his distress King Belshazzar grew even paler, and his noblemen had no idea what to do. 10 The queen mother heard the noise made by the king and his noblemen and entered the banquet hall. She said, “May Your Majesty live forever! Please do not be so disturbed and look so pale. 11 There is a man in your kingdom who has the spirit of the holy gods in him. When your father was king, this man showed good sense, knowledge, and wisdom like the wisdom of the gods. And King Nebuchadnezzar, your father, made him chief of the fortunetellers, magicians, wizards, and astrologers. 12 He has unusual ability and is wise and skillful in interpreting dreams, solving riddles, and explaining mysteries; so send for this man Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar, and he will tell you what all this means.” Romans 1:16-32 Common English Bible 16 I’m not ashamed of the gospel: it is God’s own power for salvation to all who have faith in God, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 God’s righteousness is being revealed in the gospel, from faithfulness for faith, as it is written, The righteous person will live by faith. 18 God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all the ungodly behavior and the injustice of human beings who silence the truth with injustice. 19 This is because what is known about God should be plain to them because God made it plain to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, God’s invisible qualities—God’s eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, because they are understood through the things God has made. So humans are without excuse. 21 Although they knew God, they didn’t honor God as God or thank him. Instead, their reasoning became pointless, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 While they were claiming to be wise, they made fools of themselves. 23 They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images that look like mortal humans: birds, animals, and reptiles. 24 So God abandoned them to their hearts’ desires, which led to the moral corruption of degrading their own bodies with each other. 25 They traded God’s truth for a lie, and they worshipped and served the creation instead of the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 That’s why God abandoned them to degrading lust. Their females traded natural sexual relations for unnatural sexual relations. 27 Also, in the same way, the males traded natural sexual relations with females, and burned with lust for each other. Males performed shameful actions with males, and they were paid back with the penalty they deserved for their mistake in their own bodies. 28 Since they didn’t think it was worthwhile to acknowledge God, God abandoned them to a defective mind to do inappropriate things. 29 So they were filled with all injustice, wicked behavior, greed, and evil behavior. They are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, deception, and malice. They are gossips, 30 they slander people, and they hate God. They are rude and proud, and they brag. They invent ways to be evil, and they are disobedient to their parents. 31 They are without understanding, disloyal, without affection, and without mercy. 32 Though they know God’s decision that those who persist in such practices deserve death, they not only keep doing these things but also approve others who practice them. Wednesday – Weighed and Found Wanting Daniel 5:13-28 New International Reader’s Version 13 So Daniel was brought to the king. The king said to him, “Are you Daniel? Are you one of the prisoners my father the king brought here from Judah? 14 I have heard that the spirit of the gods is in you. I’ve also heard that you have understanding and good sense and special wisdom. 15 The wise men and those who practice magic were brought to me. They were asked to read this writing and tell me what it means. But they couldn’t. 16 I have heard that you are able to explain things and solve hard problems. I hope you can read this writing and tell me what it means. If you can, you will be dressed in purple clothes. A gold chain will be put around your neck. And you will be made the third highest ruler in the kingdom.” 17 Then Daniel answered the king. He said, “You can keep your gifts for yourself. You can give your rewards to someone else. But I will read the writing for you. I’ll tell you what it means. 18 “Your Majesty, the Most High God was good to your father Nebuchadnezzar. He gave him authority and greatness and glory and honor. 19 God gave him a high position. Then people from every nation became afraid of the king. That was true no matter what language they spoke. The king put to death anyone he wanted to. He spared anyone he wanted to spare. He gave high positions to anyone he wanted to. And he brought down anyone he wanted to bring down. 20 But his heart became very stubborn and proud. So he was removed from his royal throne. His glory was stripped away from him. 21 He was driven away from people. He was given the mind of an animal. He lived with the wild donkeys. He ate grass just as an ox does. His body became wet with the dew of heaven. He stayed that way until he recognized that the Most High God rules over all kingdoms on earth. He puts anyone he wants to in charge of them. 22 “But you knew all that, Belshazzar. After all, you are Nebuchadnezzar’s son. In spite of that, you are still proud. 23 You have taken your stand against the Lord of heaven. You had your servants bring cups from his temple to you. You and your nobles drank wine from them. So did your wives and concubines. You praised your gods. The statues of those gods are made out of silver, gold, bronze, iron, wood or stone. They can’t see or hear or understand anything. But you didn’t honor God. He holds in his hand your very life and everything you do. 24 So he sent the hand that wrote on the wall. 25 “Here is what was written. mene, mene, tekel, parsin 26 “And here is what these words mean. The word Mene means that God has limited the time of your rule. He has brought it to an end. 27 The word Tekel means that you have been weighed on scales. And you haven’t measured up to God’s standard. 28 The word Peres means that your authority over your kingdom will be taken away from you. It will be given to the Medes and Persians.” Daniel 5:13 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY His bitter censure of Belshazzar is evidence of the king’s hostility toward the principles and state policy that Daniel represented. Daniel 5:16 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Belshazzar was only a coruler with his father, and hence the second ruler in the kingdom, it is clear why he could bestow no higher position in the realm than that of “third ruler.” Ecclesiastes 3:17 Lexham English Bible So I said to myself, “God will surely judge the righteous and the wicked, for he has appointed a time of judgment for every deed and every work.” Ecclesiastes 8:11 Christian Standard Bible Because the sentence against an evil act is not carried out quickly, the heart of people is filled with the desire to commit evil. Matthew 12:36 Tree of Life Version But I tell you that on the Day of Judgment, men will give account for every careless word they speak. Romans 14:12 New American Standard Bible So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God. Thursday – The Fall of Babylon Daniel 5:29-31 Contemporary English Version 29 Belshazzar gave a command for Daniel to be made the third most powerful man in his kingdom and to be given a purple robe and a gold chain. 30 That same night, the king was killed. 31 Then Darius the Mede, who was sixty-two years old, took over his kingdom. Daniel 5:31 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Darius’ advanced age was probably responsible for the brevity of his reign. The book of Daniel mentions only the first regnal year of Darius (chs. 9:1, 2; 11:1). The king’s death occurred “within about two years of the fall of Babylon” (PK 556). Revelation 14:8 Christian Standard Bible And another, a second angel, followed, saying, “It has fallen, Babylon the Great has fallen. She made all the nations drink the wine of her sexual immorality, which brings wrath.” Revelation16:19 English Standard Bible The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered Babylon the great, to make her drain the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath. Revelation 18:2 Easy-to-Read Version The angel shouted with a powerful voice, “She is destroyed! The great city of Babylon is destroyed! She has become a home for demons. That city has become a place for every unclean spirit to live. She is a city filled with all kinds of unclean birds. She is a place where every unclean and hated animal lives.
  40. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    The Climate. The Pope & SDAs

    See: https://atoday.org/what-adventists-say-about-climate-change/
  41. 2 points
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    🌿 Slow to wrath 🙊 James 1:19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
  42. 2 points
    Gustave

    Gynder Dysphoria?

    Coming from you I'll take it as a compliment The old saying that even a broken clock is right twice a day is better than never being right.
  43. 2 points
    Gustave

    Gynder Dysphoria?

    I work with 3, one of which I've known for around 20 years and is a friend. It is absolutely a mental illness and each and everyone of us is only a hairs width away from having something that could go wrong with us. I was shocked, offended and mad when I 1st found out about my friend but over the years I came to understand that we generally look at these things from "our perspective" and think WOW, what a sick twisted perv, it's all about kinky sex, etc. The reality is that to the person who suffers from these types of things it not at all about sick twisted kinky sex. God looks at the heart and when I thought about it, the way I automatically assumed "the cause" of my friend transitioning, I realized it was my heart that was found lacking and probably not my friends. Not looking at situations like this with my old and normal ways is difficult for me even to this day. What we CAN'T do is 'celebrate dysphoria', it would be like celebrating spina bifida or bipolar disorder. We also can't attribute someone else's condition to whatever is bouncing around in our own heads. It's tough to be sure but one thing I'm convinced of is that we all need Christ and those who need Christ more are generally the ones throwing the rocks at the ones that don't fit into society as easily as we do. Matthew 21, 31
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    BlessedMan

    Running With The Horses

    I had a great trip to the mountains today, and found the wild horses near the top of the one I climbed. (a very small mountain )
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    B/W Photodude

    Another Word of Caution

    I like to put texts into BibleHub to see them in a variety of different translations. https://biblehub.com/2_timothy/2-16.htm
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    B/W Photodude

    Another Word of Caution

    Many topics here at Adventistan seem to get carried away with wild interpretations of Scripture and it's prophecies, some with assertions that we must follow those theories. Reading in the comments to accompany 2 Timothy chapter 2 in my Study Bible with EGW Comments, I find these comments regarding reading and understanding the Bible. I fully recognize that some will not be able recognize themselves in what this is saying. Now, there are some that may think that they are fully capable, with their finite judgment, to take the Word of God and to state what are the words of inspiration and what are not the words of inspiration. I want to warn you off that ground, my brethren in the ministry. “Put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.” [Exodus 3:5.] There is no finite man that lives, I care not who he is or whatever is his position, that God has authorized to pick and choose in His Word. 5LtMs, Ms 13, 1888, par. 13 It is true that the apostle has said that there are some things that are hard to be understood in the Scriptures. [2 Peter 3:16.] So there are. And if it were not that there are subjects that are difficult and hard to be understood, well might the skeptic who now pleads that God has given a revelation that cannot be understood, well might he, I say, have something else to plead. And although we may try to reason in regard to our Creator how long He has had existence, where evil first entered into our world, and all these things, we may begin to reason about them until we fall down faint and exhausted with the research when there is yet an infinity beyond. We cannot grasp it, so what man is there that dares to take that Bible and say this part is inspired and that part is not inspired? I would have both my arms taken off at my shoulders before I would ever make the statement or set my judgment upon the Word of God as to what is inspired and what is not inspired. Human minds without this special assistance of the Spirit of God will see many things in the Bible very difficult to be understood, because they lack a divine enlightenment. It is not that men should come to the Word of God by setting up their own way or their own will or their own ideas, but it is to come with a meek and humble and holy spirit. 5LtMs, Ms 13, 1888, par. 18 Never attempt to search the Scriptures unless you are ready to listen, unless you are ready to be a learner, unless you are ready to listen to the Word of God as though His voice were speaking directly to you from the living oracles. Never let mortal man sit in judgment upon the Word of God or pass sentence as to how much of this is inspired and how much is not inspired and that this is more inspired than some other portion. God warns him off that ground. God has not given him any such work to do. Ms 13, 1888, Sermon by Sister Ellen White The entire message may be read here: https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/4628.1#1
  47. 2 points
    BlessedMan

    Another Word of Caution

    Text: 2 Timothy 4:1-11. Here we have presented before us the work of him who shall open the Scriptures to others. It is a most solemn work, and all who engage in it should be men of prayer. It is not enough for the minister to stand up in the desk and give an exposition of the Scriptures. His work has but just begun. There is pastoral work to do, and this means to reprove and exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine: that is, he should present the Word of God to show wherein there is a deficiency. If there is anything in the character of the professed followers of Christ, the burden should certainly be felt by the minister, and not that he should lord it over God’s heritage. To deal with human minds is the nicest job that was ever committed to mortal man. There will be human prejudices and many other things that will bar his way. He will have to meet hearts that have never been subdued in their childhood. They have never been brought into order and into line; they have never been brought under control. Therefore, in dealing with these minds, where reproof is necessary, to rebuke with all longsuffering, to be successful in this work, the servant of God will have to arm himself with the same mind that was in Christ Jesus; and if he walks humbly with his God, he will recognize in every soul for whom he has labored that they are the purchase of the blood of Christ: that our precious Saviour considered them of such value that He did not withhold Himself, but gave up His life in order that they might have a provision, a trial, a time when they should consider the things of eternal interest, and that they should weigh them carefully, attentively, and see if they do not consider whether or not it is to their advantage and profit to build into eternal life. Excellent article B/W!
  48. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    ARTV--What Is It?

    There is a new SDA presence on the Internet. It is Adventist Review TV Now. The following URL consists of dozens of websites that you can click on to view videos that may range from a couple of minutes in length, to more than an hour. In addition, each of the clickable websites may contain more than a dozen individual segments. The range of subjects covered is considerable. https://www.artvnow.com/browse As an example, the following is a 2-minute video that is a visual delight, accompanied by music. Other subjects may be informational. https://www.artvnow.com/new-series-2/season:1/videos/red-sea-nature-music
  49. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Ellen White Listed as "Heretic of The Week" on Catholic Herald Website

    If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Isaiah 58:13 God has often said He laughs at the wicked. How arrogant man is to think that he can removal the sacredness from something God has called holy. The Sabbath day is as holy as when God frist called it holy and will remain so until God in an unmistakable way declares differently. However, He has said He does not change, so in this lifetime I do not see that happening. NOTHING will change the Sabbath day into a profane day before the endtimes and anything attempting to do so will be a deception. No compromises with any group promoting world unity via Sunday "sacredness" is acceptable.
  50. 2 points
    james423

    Lesson 5 - From Pride to Humility

    Overall Question: What was the purpose for God treating Nebuchadnezzar the way He did? Memory Text: Daniel 4:3 Good News Translation “How great are the wonders God shows us! How powerful are the miracles he performs! God is king forever; he will rule for all time. Sunday – Is Not This Babylon the Great? Daniel 4:1-33 New Living Translation King Nebuchadnezzar sent this message to the people of every race and nation and language throughout the world: “Peace and prosperity to you! 2 “I want you all to know about the miraculous signs and wonders the Most High God has performed for me.3 How great are his signs, how powerful his wonders! His kingdom will last forever, his rule through all generations. 4]“I, Nebuchadnezzar, was living in my palace in comfort and prosperity. 5 But one night I had a dream that frightened me; I saw visions that terrified me as I lay in my bed. 6 So I issued an order calling in all the wise men of Babylon, so they could tell me what my dream meant. 7 When all the magicians, enchanters, astrologers, and fortune-tellers came in, I told them the dream, but they could not tell me what it meant. 8 At last Daniel came in before me, and I told him the dream. (He was named Belteshazzar after my god, and the spirit of the holy gods is in him.) 9 “I said to him, ‘Belteshazzar, chief of the magicians, I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in you and that no mystery is too great for you to solve. Now tell me what my dream means.10 “‘While I was lying in my bed, this is what I dreamed. I saw a large tree in the middle of the earth. 11 The tree grew very tall and strong, reaching high into the heavens for all the world to see. 12 It had fresh green leaves, and it was loaded with fruit for all to eat. Wild animals lived in its shade, and birds nested in its branches. All the world was fed from this tree. 13 “‘Then as I lay there dreaming, I saw a messenger, a holy one, coming down from heaven. 14 The messenger shouted, “Cut down the tree and lop off its branches! Shake off its leaves and scatter its fruit! Chase the wild animals from its shade and the birds from its branches.15 But leave the stump and the roots in the ground, bound with a band of iron and bronze and surrounded by tender grass. Now let him be drenched with the dew of heaven, and let him live with the wild animals among the plants of the field. 16 For seven periods of time, let him have the mind of a wild animal instead of the mind of a human.17 For this has been decreed by the messenger; it is commanded by the holy ones, so that everyone may know that the Most High rules over the kingdoms of the world. He gives them to anyone he chooses— even to the lowliest of people.”18 “‘Belteshazzar, that was the dream that I, King Nebuchadnezzar, had. Now tell me what it means, for none of the wise men of my kingdom can do so. But you can tell me because the spirit of the holy gods is in you.’19 “Upon hearing this, Daniel (also known as Belteshazzar) was overcome for a time, frightened by the meaning of the dream. Then the king said to him, ‘Belteshazzar, don’t be alarmed by the dream and what it means.’“ Belteshazzar replied, ‘I wish the events foreshadowed in this dream would happen to your enemies, my lord, and not to you! 20 The tree you saw was growing very tall and strong, reaching high into the heavens for all the world to see. 21 It had fresh green leaves and was loaded with fruit for all to eat. Wild animals lived in its shade, and birds nested in its branches. 22 That tree, Your Majesty, is you. For you have grown strong and great; your greatness reaches up to heaven, and your rule to the ends of the earth. 23 “‘Then you saw a messenger, a holy one, coming down from heaven and saying, “Cut down the tree and destroy it. But leave the stump and the roots in the ground, bound with a band of iron and bronze and surrounded by tender grass. Let him be drenched with the dew of heaven. Let him live with the animals of the field for seven periods of time.” 24 “‘This is what the dream means, Your Majesty, and what the Most High has declared will happen to my lord the king. 25 You will be driven from human society, and you will live in the fields with the wild animals. You will eat grass like a cow, and you will be drenched with the dew of heaven. Seven periods of time will pass while you live this way, until you learn that the Most High rules over the kingdoms of the world and gives them to anyone he chooses. 26 But the stump and roots of the tree were left in the ground. This means that you will receive your kingdom back again when you have learned that heaven rules. 27 “‘King Nebuchadnezzar, please accept my advice. Stop sinning and do what is right. Break from your wicked past and be merciful to the poor. Perhaps then you will continue to prosper.’28 “But all these things did happen to King Nebuchadnezzar. 29 Twelve months later he was taking a walk on the flat roof of the royal palace in Babylon. 30 As he looked out across the city, he said, ‘Look at this great city of Babylon! By my own mighty power, I have built this beautiful city as my royal residence to display my majestic splendor.’ 31 “While these words were still in his mouth, a voice called down from heaven, ‘O King Nebuchadnezzar, this message is for you! You are no longer ruler of this kingdom. 32 You will be driven from human society. You will live in the fields with the wild animals, and you will eat grass like a cow. Seven periods of time will pass while you live this way, until you learn that the Most High rules over the kingdoms of the world and gives them to anyone he chooses.’ 33 “That same hour the judgment was fulfilled, and Nebuchadnezzar was driven from human society. He ate grass like a cow, and he was drenched with the dew of heaven. He lived this way until his hair was as long as eagles’ feathers and his nails were like birds’ claws. Daniel 4:26 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Many have wondered why the insane king was not killed, or why his subjects and ministers of state did not placed someone else on the vacant throne during the time Nebuchadnezzar was incapacitated. The following explanation has been offered: Superstitious ancients thought that all mental disturbances were caused by evil spirits who took control of their victim; that if someone should kill the insane man, the spirit would take hold of the murderer or instigator of the crime; and that if his property should be confiscated or his office filled, a grievous revenge would be inflicted upon those responsible for the injustice. For this reason insane persons were removed from the society of men, but otherwise not molested. Daniel 4:30 Good News Translation he said, “Look how great Babylon is! I built it as my capital city to display my power and might, my glory and majesty.” Daniel 4:30 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Nebuchadnezzar’s claim to have “built” Babylon must not be interpreted as referring to the founding of the city, which actually took place shortly after the Flood (Gen. 11:1–9; cf. ch. 10:10). The reference is to the great work of rebuilding which his father, Nabopolassar, began, and which Nebuchadnezzar completed. Nebuchadnezzar’s building activities were so extensive as to eclipse all previous accomplishments. It has been said that little could be seen that had not been erected in his time. This was true of the palaces, temples, walls, and even of the residential sections. The size of the city had been more than doubled by the addition of new areas to old Babylon, as suburbs on both sides of the river Euphrates. Monday – Warned by the Prophet Daniel 4:27 Contemporary English Version Your Majesty, please be willing to do what I say. Turn from your sins and start living right; have mercy on those who are mistreated. Then all will go well with you for a long time. Proverbs 14:31 New Century Version Whoever mistreats the poor insults their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. Tuesday – “The Most High Rules…” 2 Kings 20:2-5 Common English Version Hezekiah turned his face to the wall and prayed to the Lord, saying, 3 “Please, Lord, remember how I have walked before you in truth and sincerity. I have done what is right in your eyes.” Then Hezekiah cried and cried. 4 Isaiah hadn’t even left the middle courtyard of the palace when the Lord’s word came to him: 5 Turn around. Say to Hezekiah, my people’s leader: This is what the Lord, the God of your ancestor David, says: I have heard your prayer and have seen your tears. So now I’m going to heal you. Three days from now you will be able to go up to the Lord’s temple. Jonah 3:10 Christian Standard Bible God saw their actions—that they had turned from their evil ways—so God relented from the disaster he had threatened them with. And he did not do it. Jeremiah 18:7-8 Easy-to-Read Version 7 “There may come a time when I will speak about a nation or a kingdom that I will pull up by its roots or tear down and destroy it. 8 But if the people of that nation change their hearts and lives and stop doing evil things, I will change my mind and not bring on them the disaster I planned. Wednesday – Lifting Eyes Toward Heaven Daniel 4:34-37 Contemporary English Version 34 Finally, I prayed to God in heaven, and my mind was healed. Then I said: “I praise and honor God Most High. He lives forever, and his kingdom will never end. 35 To him the nations are far less than nothing; God controls the stars in the sky and everyone on this earth. When God does something, we cannot change it or even ask why.” 36 At that time my mind was healed, and once again I became the ruler of my glorious kingdom. My advisors and officials returned to me, and I had greater power than ever before. 37 That’s why I say: “Praise and honor the King who rules from heaven! Everything he does is honest and fair, and he can shatter the power of those who are proud.” Thursday – Humble and Grateful Daniel 4:33 Common English Bible Nebuchadnezzar’s sentence was immediately carried out. He was driven away from other humans and ate grass like cattle. Dew from heaven washed his body until he grew hair like eagles’ feathers and claws like a bird. Daniel 4:33 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Many commentators have identified Nebuchadnezzar’s malady as a form of insanity in which men think themselves animals and imitate the beasts’ manner of life. An ancient example of such mental maladies has been attested. An unpublished cuneiform tablet in the British Museum mentions a man who ate grass like a cow (F. M. Th. de Liagre Böhl, Opera Minora [1953], p. 527). It is not necessary to identify Nebuchadnezzar’s malady precisely or to equate it with anything known to medical science today. The experience may have been unique. The narrative is brief, and a precise diagnosis on such meager information is invalid. Philippians 2:1-11 Holman Christian Standard Bible If then there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any affection and mercy, 2 fulfill my joy by thinking the same way, having the same love, sharing the same feelings, focusing on one goal. 3 Do nothing out of rivalry or conceit, but in humility consider others as more important than yourselves. 4 Everyone should look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others. 5 Make your own attitude that of Christ Jesus, 6 who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be used for His own advantage. 7 Instead He emptied Himself by assuming the form of a slave, taking on the likeness of men. And when He had come as a man in His external form, 8 He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death— even to death on a cross.9 For this reason God highly exalted Him and gave Him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow—of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth—11 and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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