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    JoeMo

    Here's your (not so) totally useless fact(s) of the day:

    Just because you are afraid of your mother-in-law does not mean she's not dangerous! (In case my dear mother-in-law is reading, I don't mean you! You are a sweet, kind, wonderful woman!)
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    B/W Photodude

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    Susan Fodor Magaitis is a Seventh-day Adventist pastor who works for the North New South Wales Conference. She and her husband, Steve, are co-pastors at the Avondale Memorial Church located next door to Avondale College in Australia. Susan Fodor Magaitis was also commissioned as a pastor through the laying of hands during a ceremony presided over by Neil R. Thompson, Ministerial Association Director for the North New South Wales Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. When things couldn't be getting worse, we have this "pastor" writing literature that would usually get any male pastor fired immediately! The recurring theme of “Ghost Girl” from start to finish is an explicit, oral sex act or sex scene penned by the Seventh-day Adventist Youth Pastor in Australia, Susan Fodor Magaitis, not once but several times! This is equivalent to pornography. And even though Susan, the porn-writing theologian, tries to clean up the story by teaching important life lessons, it’s still depicting literary porn. http://adventmessenger.org/seventh-day-adventist-female-pastor-theologian-and-published-author-from-australia-peddles-dirty-novels-on-amazon/
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    B/W Photodude

    Are we far behind?

    So, we have seen many liberal / left wing ideas penetrating into the SDA church such as women's ordination, the push for acceptance of gay people into the church, the abysmal inability and even surrender of the men of the church to do anything about it (with the accompanying disappearance of many men/boys from the church), makes one wonder if we are far behind what many concerned Catholics are experiencing as they watch is going on in their church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w2Ji4u8ymk
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    phkrause

    Rosh Hashanah

    L'Shanah Tovah, May you have a blessed Jewish New Year 5780! "On the first day of the seventh month hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. It is a day for you to sound the trumpets [Yom Teruah]." (Numbers 29:1) The High Holy Days have once again arrived, and the two-day holiday of Rosh HaShanah (traditional Jewish New Year) begins tonight. Biblically speaking, Rosh HaShanah is called Yom Teruah, the day of sounding the shofar. (Leviticus 23:24) Holiday Traditions One of the best known symbols of the Jewish New Year is dipping apples in honey. This wonderful Rosh HaShanah tradition symbolizes our hope that the new year will be sweet. Apples are not the only fruit eaten during Rosh HaShanah. Tomorrow night, on the second night of Rosh HaShanah, we will eat pomegranate. One explanation for the tradition of eating pomegranates is that this fruit was once thought to have 613 seeds, which reminds us of the Torah's 613 commandments. The pomegranate, therefore, symbolizes our hope that our actions will be in line with the Word of God and that our righteous deeds will increase in the year to come. From our Bibles For Israel ministry family to you... Have a happy, healthy, and sweet Jewish New Year! "With trumpets and the blast of the ram's horn [shofar]—shout for joy before the LORD, the King." (Psalm 98:6) "Feed the hungry, and help those in trouble. Then your light will shine out from the darkness, and the darkness around you will be as bright as noon." (Isaiah 58:10)
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    phkrause

    Moishe is Doing the Laundry

    Moishe and Miriam were having a friendly argument. Moishe said that he was very self-sufficient and could easily survive on his own. Miriam, well let’s just say that she didn’t agree. To prove his point, Moishe decided that he was going to wash his own laundry. And he would start with his favourite old college sweatshirt. Seconds after he stepped into the laundry room, Moishe shouted to Miriam, "What setting do I use on the washing machine?" "It depends," Miriam replied. "What does it say on your shirt?" Moishe yelled back, "Columbia University."
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    phkrause

    Riding with an Angel

    Chaim Yankel was standing on the side of the road hitch hiking on a very dark night in the middle of a storm. The night was rolling and no cars passed. The storm was so strong, he could hardly see a few feet ahead of him. Suddenly Chaim Yankel saw a car come towards him and stop. Chaim Yankel realized that Hashem must have answered his prayers so without thinking about it, Chaim Yankel got in the car and closed the door only to realize that nobody was behind the wheel. The car started slowly. Chaim Yankel looked at the road and saw a curve coming his way. Scared, he started praying again, and begged Hashem for his life. He hadn't come out of shock, when just before he hit the curve, a hand appeared through the window and moved the wheel. Chaim Yankel, paralyzed in terror, watched how the hand appeared every time before a curve. Chaim Yankel gathered strength, got out of the car and ran to the nearest town. Wet and in shock, he ran into a bar and started telling everybody about the frightening experience he went through. A silence enveloped everybody when they realized Chaim Yankel was crying and wasn't drunk. About half an hour later, two guys walked into the same bar, and one said to the other. "Look, that's the joker who climbed into the car we were pushing!"
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    phkrause

    Rabbi on a Plane

    An El Al passenger jet from New York to Tel Aviv was suffering through a severe thunderstorm. As the passengers were being bounced around by the turbulence, a woman turned to a rabbi sitting next to her and with a nervous laugh asked, "Rabbi, you're a man of God. Can't you do something about this storm?" To which he replied, "Sorry, I'm in sales, not management."
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    Ron Amnsn

    Under Law

    The passages you listed do not actually say that anything in books of Moses had passed away. People need to understand the Jewish context of those passages before they can understand what the issues were about. Very briefly, the "problem" in Acts 15 started when men from Judea were teaching the Gentile brothers, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved." Is that statement found in God's Law? No. Circumcision was never given by God as a method to become "saved". What was the "custom of Moses" regarding circumcision and how was it different than the kind of circumcision that Abraham received? We know a bit about what the Pharisees of that time required of Gentile converts. Gentiles who went through the Pharisee proselyte program were required to do many things that are not found in God's Law of Moses, including learning the man-made oral traditions of the Jewish sages and vowing to observe those traditions, before they could be circumcised. And when the program culminated with circumcision, it wasn't the kind of simple circumcision that Abraham was given. The Gentile convert had to comply with additional man-made requirements or else his circumcision was not considered valid by the Pharisees and the convert would not be accepted into the community. Acts 15 specifies that the believers who said "It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses" were indeed Pharisees, so the issues discussed in Acts 15 would be the issues that separated the believing Pharisees from the other Jewish believers. It was not the written Scriptures that separated the various sects of Jews, including the Nazarenes. It was all the man-made traditions that were the issues. Ephesians 2:15 says, "it was the "law of commandments expressed in ordinances" that was abolished. The Greek word for "ordinances" is dogmasin, which is never used in any of it's forms to refer to any of God's laws or instructions in the Greek Scriptures that Greek-speaking people were using in those days. If Paul was referring to God's laws he could have used one of the several Greek words that did refer to God's laws. Instead Paul chose a word that only referred to man-made decrees and rulings, usually made by pagan ruler. We can confirm that Paul was referring to man-made ordinances by searching through God's Law of Moses to try to find any of God's instructions that created a "wall of separation" between godly Gentiles and the Israelites. That separation was caused by man-made traditions. That same word dogmasin is also used in Galatians 2:14, where it says that handwritten dogmasin were "nailed to the cross". The only thing handwritten that was nailed to the cross was the placard written by a pagan ruler that listed the "crimes" of Jesus in three languages. In Galatians 2:14 Peter had been influenced to revert back to following the man-made traditions that prohibited Jews from eating with Gentiles. Those prohibitions are not found in God's Law of Moses. Paul did not rebuke Peter for doing anything that is commanded in God's Law of Moses. The apostle Paul himself testified that he believed everything that agrees with the Law and is written in the Prophets (Acts 24:14), so apparently those who believe that parts of the Law have passed away are believing a different gospel than Paul believed.
  9. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About "Jingle Bells" On September 16, 1857, the song "Jingle Bells" by James Pierpont was copyrighted under its original title, "One Horse Open Sleigh." Here are 5 things you never knew about this popular Christmas tune... “Jingle Bells” Wasn’t Written as a Christmas Song The strains of “Jingle Bells” can be heard throughout the holiday season, but it was reportedly first performed at a church service for Thanksgiving for either the brother or father of James Lord Pierpont, the composer and lyricist of the song. Most people don’t know that several of the verses may have been considered risque during the time it was written since they talk about racing through the snow and crashing the sleigh with a young, single lady on board. Also, the third verse is about falling down in the snow and a passerby laughing. An Uncle of J.P. Morgan Wrote the Popular Christmas Song Songwriter and lyricist James Lord Pierpont wrote the song. He was somewhat wild, at least in his early life, and his song lyrics reflect that. After trying his luck as a prospector during the California gold rush, he wrote a song titled “The Returning Californian,” which is about how he was duped into heading to the goldfields, was disappointed and ended up broke. Juliet, Pierpont’s sister, was married to John Pierpont Morgan, whose son became the famous J.P. Morgan, one of the Gilded Age’s powerful financiers, so it might have been a better plan to ask for a job. Pierpont Was an Unusual Guy Pierpont might have been a bit of a problem child and was sent off to boarding school but ran away at age 14 to become a whaler on a ship named “The Shark.” Afterward, he joined the U.S. Navy, where he served until he was 21. He was reconciled with his family in 1851 and was in Medford, Massachusetts, when he was inspired to write “Jingle Bells” while watching people out in the snow taking sleigh rides. “Jingle Bells” Wasn’t the Original Title The original title of the song was “One Horse Open Sleigh” when the Boston publishing house released it in 1857. The name was changed, and two years later, it was being reissued with the familiar name of “Jingle Bells.” The Astronauts From Gemini 6 Broadcast it From Space Shortly before Christmas 1965, astronauts on Gemini 6 reported that they saw an object moving from the North Pole to the South Pole in a low trajectory. Then they said to stand by, and listeners heard the strains of “Jingle Bells.” Wally Schirra accompanied the song with a small harmonica while Tom Stafford shook sleigh bells that they had taken with them into outer space.
  10. 1 point
    Ron Amnsn

    Under Law

    Gustave, I can't find where you actually answered the question. Here was the question: The Bible does speak about some things that can be learned from nature or from the fragments of truth that have been handed down through human societies from our forefathers Adam and Noah. That wasn't the question. The question requests information from the Bible that shows that the "natural" laws remain valid after the explicit instructions given by God have supposedly expired.
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    Ron Amnsn

    Under Law

    Hi Gustave, The above statement from the Catechism of Trent makes it sound like the authors attribute more authority to what they call "nature" than they do to the Bible.
  12. 1 point
    Ron Amnsn

    Under Law

    What I believe is not of much importance compared to what God's Word says. Many times I have believed things that were wrong. 1) If, as slaves in Egypt, the Israelites had the freedom to perform circumcisions on male infants that Pharaoh had ordered to be thrown in to the Nile, then Moses was probably circumcised because he was older than 8 days. This is merely speculation because we are not told whether Moses was circumcised already. We do know that Moses himself did not circumcise at least one of his own sons on the eighth day (Exodus 4:24) And we know that while Moses was leading the Israelites in the wilderness the Israelite males born in the wilderness had not been circumcised (Joshua 5:5). 2) How do you define "easier" in your question? When Moses was reviewing the Law with the Israelites, he told them that what he was commanding was "not too difficult or beyond your reach". God told Isaac, "Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws," so Abraham apparently knew quite a bit about what would please God. Was it "easy" for Abraham? Was it easy for Abraham to take his promised son to Moriah to offer as a burnt offering? Was it "easy" to chase after the kings who captured Lot and to give a tenth of the spoils to Melchizedek? The Scriptures don't speak much about "easy" or "easier", so I haven't formulated a personal belief about that. However, we do know that it was not "impossible" for the Israelites to keep the Law of Moses because one of the very first things that Luke tells us in his gospel account was that the parents of John the immerser "were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statues of the Lord." (Luke 1:6)
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    JoeMo

    Under Law

    I'm enjoying the discourse here. In my read of the NT, it seems like there are very few requirements put on new believers: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. (Acts 15:28-29) Yet, as believers matured in Christ, they may become subject to the rest of the Law. The epistles of James and John - which were written to more mature audiences (likely Jews who accepted Christ) seem to encourage compliance with the whole law. But it does seem that some of the law (e.g., circumcision, ceremonial cleanliness) were done away with. At the time these words were written, Christianity was considered another Jewish sect; so new believers would be keeping the Sabbath (at least go to the "Christian" synagogue - if there was such a thing) for fellowship and public worship. There was and is so much of Jewish (and Christian) man-made tradition going on for so long that the average nominal believer had (and still has) a hard time discerning between the Laws of God and the traditions of man - be it in the SDA or Catholic or any other denomination.
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Harmless as doves 🐦 Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
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    james423

    Lesson 12 - To Love Mercy

    Memory Text: Psalm 112:4-5 Good News Translation 4 Light shines in the darkness for good people, for those who are merciful, kind, and just. 5 Happy is the person who is generous with his loans, who runs his business honestly. Sunday – Kingdom Priorities Matthew 6:25-33 Common English Bible 25 “Therefore, I say to you, don’t worry about your life, what you’ll eat or what you’ll drink, or about your body, what you’ll wear. Isn’t life more than food and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds in the sky. They don’t sow seed or harvest grain or gather crops into barns. Yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Aren’t you worth much more than they are? 27 Who among you by worrying can add a single moment to your life? 28 And why do you worry about clothes? Notice how the lilies in the field grow. They don’t wear themselves out with work, and they don’t spin cloth. 29 But I say to you that even Solomon in all of his splendor wasn’t dressed like one of these. 30 If God dresses grass in the field so beautifully, even though it’s alive today and tomorrow it’s thrown into the furnace, won’t God do much more for you, you people of weak faith? 31 Therefore, don’t worry and say, ‘What are we going to eat?’ or ‘What are we going to drink?’ or ‘What are we going to wear?’ 32 Gentiles long for all these things. Your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 Instead, desire first and foremost God’s kingdom and God’s righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Matthew 6:31 COMMENTARY BY ADAM CLARKE These three inquiries engross the whole attention of those who are living without God in the world. The belly and back of a worldling are his compound god; and these he worships in the lust of the flesh, in the lust of the eye, and in the pride of life. Monday – Compassion Fatigue James 1:5-8 Contemporary English Version 5 If any of you need wisdom, you should ask God, and it will be given to you. God is generous and won’t correct you for asking. 6 But when you ask for something, you must have faith and not doubt. Anyone who doubts is like an ocean wave tossed around in a storm. 7-8 If you are that kind of person, you can’t make up your mind, and you surely can’t be trusted. So don’t expect the Lord to give you anything at all. James 2:15-16 God’s Word Translation 15 Suppose a believer, whether a man or a woman, needs clothes or food 16 and one of you tells that person, “God be with you! Stay warm, and make sure you eat enough.” If you don’t provide for that person’s physical needs, what good does it do? James 2:16 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Something more than faith alone is needed to clothe the shivering body and remove the pangs of hunger. To be given scriptural texts and godly precepts without the material help needed would be cruel mockery. The Greek implies that these church members suggested that someone else was to warm them. Tuesday – Generosity Leviticus 25:33-37 33 And any property that is sold by the Levites—all houses within the Levitical towns—must be returned in the Year of Jubilee. After all, the houses in the towns reserved for the Levites are the only property they own in all Israel. 34 The open pastureland around the Levitical towns may never be sold. It is their permanent possession. 35 “If one of your fellow Israelites falls into poverty and cannot support himself, support him as you would a foreigner or a temporary resident and allow him to live with you. 36 Do not charge interest or make a profit at his expense. Instead, show your fear of God by letting him live with you as your relative. 37 Remember, do not charge interest on money you lend him or make a profit on food you sell him. Psalm 119:36 New Century Version Make me want to keep your rules instead of wishing for riches. 2 Corinthians 8:12-15 Easy-to-Read Version 12 If you want to give, your gift will be accepted. Your gift will be judged by what you have, not by what you don’t have. 13 We don’t want you to have troubles while others are comforted. We want everything to be equal. 14 At this time you have plenty and can provide what they need. Then later, when they have plenty, they can provide what you need. Then everyone will have an equal share. 15 As the Scriptures say, “Those who gathered much did not have too much, and those who gathered little did not have too little.” 1 John 3:16-18 New English Translation 16 We have come to know love by this: that Jesus laid down his life for us; thus we ought to lay down our lives for our fellow Christians. 17 But whoever has the world’s possessions and sees his fellow Christian in need and shuts off his compassion against him, how can the love of God reside in such a person? 18 Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue but in deed and truth. 1 Timothy 6:17-19 English Standard Version 17 As for the rich in this present age, charge them not to be haughty, nor to set their hopes on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly provides us with everything to enjoy. 18 They are to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, 19 thus storing up treasure for themselves as a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is truly life. 1 Timothy 6:19 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Since the inception of sin our lives fall far short of the full life that God intended man should enjoy. The blight of sin has darkened even the brightest of earthly joys. No man is now immune from the wasting of physical strength and the limitations of mental faculties. Mark 12:41-44 New International Reader’s Version 41 Jesus sat down across from the place where people put their temple offerings. He watched the crowd putting their money into the offering boxes. Many rich people threw large amounts into them. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins. They were worth only a few pennies. 43 Jesus asked his disciples to come to him. He said, “What I’m about to tell you is true. That poor widow has put more into the offering box than all the others. 44 They all gave a lot because they are rich. But she gave even though she is poor. She put in everything she had. That was all she had to live on.” Wednesday – Peacemaking Matthew 5:9 Modern English Version Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God. Matthew 5:9 COMMENTARY BY ALBERT BARNES Blessed are the peacemakers. Those who strive to prevent contention, and strife, and war. Who use their influence to reconcile opposing parties, and to prevent lawsuits, and hostilities, in families and neighborhoods. Every man may do something of this; and no man is more like God than he who does it… Friends, neighbors, men of influence, lawyers, physicians, may do much to promote peace. Isaiah 52:7 New Living Translation How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of the messenger who brings good news, the good news of peace and salvation, the news that the God of Israel reigns! Thursday – A Voice for the Voiceless Isaiah 58:1-10 Holman Christian Standard Bible “Cry out loudly, don’t hold back! Raise your voice like a trumpet. Tell My people their transgression and the house of Jacob their sins. 2 They seek Me day after day and delight to know My ways, like a nation that does what is right and does not abandon the justice of their God. They ask Me for righteous judgments; they delight in the nearness of God.” 3 “Why have we fasted, but You have not seen? We have denied ourselves, but You haven’t noticed!” “Look, you do as you please on the day of your fast, and oppress all your workers. 4 You fast with contention and strife to strike viciously with your fist. You cannot fast as you do today, hoping to make your voice heard on high. 5 Will the fast I choose be like this: A day for a person to deny himself, to bow his head like a reed, and to spread out sackcloth and ashes? Will you call this a fast and a day acceptable to the Lord? 6 Isn’t the fast I choose: To break the chains of wickedness, to untie the ropes of the yoke, to set the oppressed free, and to tear off every yoke? 7 Is it not to share your bread with the hungry, to bring the poor and homeless into your house, to clothe the naked when you see him, and not to ignore your own flesh and blood? 8 Then your light will appear like the dawn, and your recovery will come quickly. Your righteousness will go before you, and the Lord’s glory will be your rear guard. 9 At that time, when you call, the Lord will answer; when you cry out, He will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you get rid of the yoke among you, the finger-pointing and malicious speaking, 10 and if you offer yourself to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted one, then your light will shine in the darkness, and your night will be like noonday. Isaiah 58:6 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY True fasting was designed to purify the motives and reform the life. But with the Jews the practices of religion had become a cloak for oppression of the weak, robbery of widows and orphans, and all forms of bribery, deceit, and injustice. The true purpose of religion is to release men from their burdens of sin, to eliminate intolerance and oppression, and to promote justice, liberty, and peace. God intended His people to be free, but the leaders of Israel were making slaves and paupers of them.
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    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    Thanks Gustave. You always have a way of stratifying things, to make me think more clearly. Or at least to express myself more clearly. There were specified animal sacrifices that were to be offered on the 7th Day Sabbath, and others sacrifices offered at the special "moed". I'm saying the animal sacrifices ended with the death of Christ - the "one true sacrifice". If you "change" the priesthood, you also change the system of sacrifices, because the law specified that every sacrifice had to be brought to an Aaronic priest at "the place where the LORD your God chooses to put His name" (Deuteronomy 12:11-14). Without the Aaronic priests, there is nowhere to take an animal sacrifice, rather no one to take a sacrifice to. We now offer up "spiritual sacrifices" which Jesus then presents to His Father in Heaven ("the true Tabernacle" "which the LORD pitched and not man").
  17. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Under Law

    Gustave said in the quote below: Agree. I expect that there are other planets with intelligent life. But, I would expect different solar systems. No reason to think the same as ours.
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    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About Lehman Brothers On September 15, 2008, the venerable Wall Street brokerage firm Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy protection, becoming the largest victim of the subprime mortgage crisis. Here are five things you probably didn’t know about Lehman Brothers…. The Investment Company Had Been in Business 158 Years Before their bankruptcy, Lehman Brothers was one of the largest investment banks in the country. It had been in business for 158 years since its founding in 1850. At the time Lehman Brothers collapsed in 2008, the company had around 25,000 employees nationwide, which shows that no company is too big to fail. The Bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Was the Largest in U.S. History Lehman Brothers had picked up five different mortgage lenders by 2004, which included BNC, which made subprime loans. The company was heavily invested in mortgages, much more than other investment firms. Because of this focus, it was especially vulnerable when the housing market crashed and did not have the capital to handle its losses, which led to the company filing for bankruptcy. A German Immigrant Founded the Company Henry Lehman, a German immigrant who lived in Montgomery, Alabama, and ran a dry-goods business in 1844, transformed into Lehman Brothers after the addition of his own brothers Mayer and Emanuel in 1850. American Express owned the company for about ten years when it was spun off and offered shares to the public while showing $3.3 billion in assets. The company’s services continued to expand by combining investment and commercial banking, and this wide expansion may have helped contribute to its collapse. Shares in the Company Fell 48 Percent in One Day Shares in Lehman Brothers dropped like a rock in March 2008 because Bear Stearns had almost collapsed, and it was one of the largest underwriters of securities that were mortgage-backed. The view among those on Wall Street was that Lehman would be next, so investors started dumping their stock, and it turned out that the predictions were right. The Collapse of Lehman Brothers Triggered the Recession Economic turmoil between December 2007 and June 2009 resulted in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and a heavy contributor was the poor decision to offer subprime mortgages, which allowed borrowers with low credit ratings to purchase homes at high rates of interest. As home prices started dropping in 2007 and the number of purchasers dropped dramatically, it placed the country in a severe economic downturn. Unemployment jumped by 10 percent, millions of jobs disappeared, and Dow Jones dropped by 5,000 points.
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    Gustave

    Under Law

    I confounded it with Ellen's account of her visit to an alien planet, you're right. I just found what I think I was referencing (Early Writing by EGW). The alien world Ellen describes that "she flew too" allegedly has a "Tree of Life" & "commandments of God" . After Ellen says she went to another planet that had seven moons and ran into "good old Enoch", who claimed to be there on holiday. "The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble, majestic, and lovely. They bore the express image of Jesus, and their countenances beamed with holy joy, expressive of the freedom and happiness of the place. I asked one of them why they were so much more lovely than those on the earth. The reply was, "We have lived in strict obedience to the commandments of God, and have not fallen by disobedience, like those on the earth." Then I saw two trees, one looked much like the tree of life in the city. The fruit of both looked beautiful, but of one they could not eat. They had power to eat of both, but were forbidden to eat of one. Then my attending angel said to me, "None in this place have tasted of the forbidden tree; but if they should eat, they would fall." Then I was taken to a world which had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated. On his right arm he bore a glorious palm, and on each leaf was written "Victory." Around his head was a dazzling white wreath, and leaves on the wreath, and in the middle of each leaf was written "Purity," and around the wreath were stones of various colors, that shone brighter than the stars, and cast a reflection upon the letters and magnified them. On the back part of his head was a bow that confined the wreath, and upon the bow was written "Holiness." Above the wreath was a lovely crown that shone brighter than the sun. I asked him if this was the place he was taken to from the earth. He said, "It is not; the city is my home, and I have come to visit this place." He moved about the place as if perfectly at home. I begged of my attending angel to let me remain in that place. I could not bear the thought of coming back to this dark world again. Then the angel said, "You must go back, and if you are faithful, you, with the 144,000, shall have the privilege of visiting all the worlds and viewing the handiwork of God."
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    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    Try Spiritual Gifts Volume I page 164. She is describing Jesus in the Most Holy Place. "Jesus raised the cover of the ark, and behold ! the tables of stone, with the ten commandments written upon them . . . . the fourth commandment living among the ten holy precepts, while a brighter light shines upon it than upon the other nine, and a halo of glory is all around it."
  21. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    Didn't abrogate the Sabbath. And yes - month by month at the New Moon, and week by week - we will go up to the New Jerusalem, to worship the LORD.
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    J Sonnentag

    "Fossil Forests: Two Sides of the Debate" (Warren Johns)

    From the description: One of the hottest debates among creationists in the 20th century has been the debate over the fossil forests of Yellowstone National Park. Most studies done by creationists on that site were completed in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. Since that time, dozens of fossil forests have been described in the scientific literature, all of which have some trees standing upright. The question is whether the trees grew in the present positions where they are now found or whether they were washed into their positions catastrophically. Both sides of the question will be discussed. 1. Johns, W. H. 2019. The Challenge of Fossil Forests for Creationist Research. Answers Research Journal (August 7). At https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/types-of-fossils/challenge-of-fossil-forests-for-creationist-research/
  23. 1 point
    news

    Questions and Answers (16:11)

    Lou: I’m intrigued by the Maxwell version of Romans 3:25-26 that you gave earlier. Why do so many versions translate this gospel passage as a revelation of God’s activity in salvation rather than a revelation of God’s character, or the kind of person God is? Is the gospel the truth about God’s character or the […] The post Questions and Answers (16:11) appeared first on Jon Paulien's Blog. View the full article
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    Gregory Matthews

    Under Law

    Gustave: In an earlier post, you said the following that I have quoted below: I thought it might be of interest to some people reading this thread for me to comment on your statement. * Seventh-day Adventists do not have an official statement of belief on this subject. * However, SDAs do commonly believe that there are other (probably many) planets in the cosmos on which there is living, intelligent life. * They would commonly believe that the planet Earth is the only planet in the universe on which those living beings sinned. Therefore, salvation is unique to the Earth, and life on those planets exists in perfection as God had planed it. * SDAs would see the weekly Sabbath as a special time in which humans could fellowship with God. This is not a denial of prayer and other such means of relating to God. Rather it is simply a special time for spiritual enrichment and spiritual growth. * There is a sense in which the weekly Sabbath is unique to the Earth. This is not a denial of a similar time on the other planets that have intelligent life. Rather it is simply an acknowledgement that any such Sabbath on other planets is beyond our specific knowledge. We simply do not know how that Sabbath might be constituted. * As SDAs believe in a 7-day creation of the Earth, with a Sabbath related to that creation, so also those other planets could have a Sabbath related to their creation. But, we are not informed as to anything about their creation, except that God created all and God's creation, as God created, was perfect and good.
  25. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Wise as serpents 🐍 Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
  26. 1 point
    JoeMo

    Under Law

    You still haven't heard it from an SDA . His moniker is "Not an SDA". I believe Ron is either Messianic Jew or Hebrew Roots. Nothing wrong with that - I really appreciate Ron's input here.
  27. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About the Star-Spangled Banner On September 14, 1814, Francis Scott Key wrote the lyrics to "The Star-Spangled Banner," which was later adopted as the U.S. National Anthem. Find out these 5 surprising things you never knew about this song and its namesake... The Melody Is From an Old Drinking Song A social club in London named the Anacreontic Society had an official drinking song called “To Anacreon in Heav’n,” which is the same tune as “The Star-Spangled Banner.” John Adams, while he was running a campaign for reelection against Thomas Jefferson, borrowed the tune to set to a poem titled “Adams and Liberty.” It warned against involvement by foreigners and mercantilism as opposed to Thomas Jefferson’s sympathies toward the French. While Jefferson won the election as president, the old English drinking song set to Adams’ poem may have endeared the tune to Americans who heard it. A Different Flag Was Flying When Key Wrote His Poem During the Battle of Baltimore at Fort McHenry, it was not only raining heavily all night but bombs were showering down. The woolen garrison flag flying over Fort McHenry was 30 feet by 42 feet, which made it so heavy that 11 men were required to raise it even when it was dry. Wet, it might have weighed up to 500 pounds, which would have broken the flagpole, so the 17 by 15-foot storm flag was flying in its place the night of the bombardment and replaced by the garrison flag the next morning, which was when Key must have seen it. The Song Was Adopted as the National Anthem in 1931 Robert Ripley, the entertaining owner of “Ripley’s Believe It or Not!” pointed out in 1929 that the U.S. lacked a national anthem. He received many letters from the public, which he responded to by saying they should write their congressmen. As a result, Congress was presented with a petition holding five million signatures, and the “Star-Spangled Banner” became officially the national anthem in 1931. It’s the Name of a Famous Flag The Star-Spangled Banner is also the name of the larger flag that was flown at Fort McHenry, and was made by a woman in Baltimore named Mary Pickersgill in 1813. It was Pickersgill who sewed both of the flags destined for Fort McHenry. The smaller one was designed to weather the elements, no matter how bad the weather was, which would save wear on the bigger flag. The Flag Was Hidden During World War II The flag that flew over Fort McHenry and dubbed the Star-Spangled Banner was sent to the Smithsonian Museum in 1907 for preservation and has only been removed once since it was donated in 1914 by Eben Appleton. When Pearl Harbor was attacked, President Roosevelt feared an attack on the National Mall, so the flag was sent to Luray, Virginia, to the Shenandoah National Park to keep it safe along with other items of historical importance. The flag that was the inspiration for America’s National Anthem is on display at the Museum of American History at the Smithsonian.
  28. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About Hershey's_2 On September 13, 1857, Milton Hershey was born -- to the future delight of chocolate lovers. Here are five things you probably didn't know about the man that popularized chocolate candy throughout much of the world... The Hershey Company Could Have Sunk Early On Hershey developed his own recipe for milk chocolate, which was followed by delights such as Hershey’s Kisses in 1907, but he might not have been around long enough to enjoy the long-term success the company has experienced. Hershey and his wife Kitty were planning to go on the maiden voyage of the Titanic and had bought first-class tickets. However, they changed their minds about going. Whether it was business or illness, it shows that their decision to cancel their trip was a lucky one. A Town Was Built for the Company’s Employees Derry Township was the original name of the small town where Hershey grew up and started his business. Deciding to build his chocolate business there, he realized the importance of happy employees, so he constructed a model community, complete with brick homes, lawns and light poles topped with a Hershey Kiss. Hersheypark was added in 1906 and has remained a favorite attraction for visiting families and locals ever since. M&Ms Have a Relationship With the Hershey Family Hershey controlled the chocolate that was rationed during World War II, and the son of Frank Mars, founder of Mars Candy Company, wanted to invent a chocolate pellet with a candy coating but he needed help. He partnered with Bruce Murrie, whose father was the president of Hershey’s, for 20 percent of the new company that was making the candy. The company was named M&M Limited, which stands for Mars and Murrie. Hershey Established a School for Orphans The Hersheys were childless but must have loved children, so in 1909, the Milton Hershey School was founded to help lower-income families. Hershey left the school around $60 million when he died and arranged that it would receive 30 percent of the profits from Hershey’s in the future. The school provides free education, board, counseling and health care to around 2,000 students. Where the Name Came for Hershey’s Kisses Is a Mystery Chocolate aficionados have been enjoying Hershey’s Kisses since 1907, but only Milton Hershey knows why they were named that, and he isn’t around anymore. One theory is that the sound made by the candy machine when the chocolates plop out sounds something like a kiss, and maybe that’s the reason for the name.
  29. 1 point
    Gustave

    One Catholic's view of the New world Order

    I've been following Michael for years now. I fear he's more often right than wrong.
  30. 1 point
    phkrause

    Life Support

    David Sharfman had been dating Mindy Newman for a few months and things were getting serious so they decided that it was time for David to meet Mindy’s parents. "So tell me David,” Mr. Newman prodded, “Can you support a family?" Surprised, David replied, "Well, no. I was just planning to support your daughter. The rest of you will have to fend for yourselves!"
  31. 1 point
    phkrause

    Stone Cold

    Congregation Beth Israel decided that the stone which formed the step up to the front door of the shul had become too worn by its years of use, and would have to be replaced. Unfortunately, there were hardly any funds available for the replacement. Then someone came up with the bright idea that the replacement could be postponed for many years by simply turning the block of stone over. After accompanying the shul’s handyman to try flipping over the stone, Rabbi Felder reported back to the congregation. “My dear congregants, I have bad news. It was a great idea, but our great-grandparents beat us to it.”
  32. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Who's fooling who?

    There is no question that sooner or later HCH will get something correct. It may just be his former prediction that President Trump would die, if not days, perhaps weeks, or months or years later. Probability tells us that HCH will at some point in time get something right. But, getting something correct does not prove that the Bible predicted it.
  33. 1 point
    B/W Photodude

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    There are multiple addresses for her on the original article including her website and her Facebook page (more than one). Others in Australia trying to get similar answers from the conference have been similarly stonewalled.
  34. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    I have obtained a somewhat public e-mail address for Susan Magitias and I have sent her an e-mail requesting more information about her published work. I had hoped to obtain a more private e-mail address, but, I was unable to do so. As there is a 17 hour difference in time, The time where she is located in later than 10:30 at night, and it is likely that she will not read my e-mail for some time. As I did with the Conference representative, I have invited her to come here and read this thread and to directly post her response, if she would like to do so.
  35. 1 point
    phkrause

    Age is in the Eye of the Beholder

    While waiting for her first appointment in the reception room of Dr. Marvin Cohen, her new dentist, Miriam Kleinman suddenly remembered that a tall boy with the same name had been in her high school class some 40 years ago. Upon seeing him, however, Miriam quickly discarded any such thought. This balding, gray-haired man with the deeply lined face was too old to have been her classmate Marvin. After Dr. Cohen examined her teeth, Miriam asked him if he had attended the same high school. "Yes," he replied. "When did you graduate?" Miriam asked. Dr. Cohen answered, "In 1957." "Why, you were in my class!" Miriam exclaimed. Dr. Cohen looked at Miriam closely and then asked, "What did you teach?"
  36. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    I have received a response from the elected Conference official, to my request for permission to post his response to me in this forum. He has explained he is free to respond to an individual request for information, as he did to me. However, administratively if the request involved publication in any manner, to include the Internet, that response must go through a more formal process of approval, as it will be seen as an official statement of a Conference position. So, on that basis, he has asked that I do not post his response to me, which I will respect. He has stated that I may state in my words, without a direct quotation, the essence of what he said in responding to me. I may do that in a later post, as I have done in this post. He also suggested that I contact Susan Magitias directly and stated that she would welcome my doing so. I responded that I would do so, if he would give me an e-mail contact for her. He also informed me that the Conference is very busy in preparing for a Consitutancy (sp) Meeting in 2-weeks. From that perspective, I do not believe that it is likely that I will be able to obtain, in the near future, an official statement from the Conference in regard to what Susan has written. The bottom line: I will continue to work on this issue and I will keep you informed as to my progress. My next step will be to contact Susan directly, if I can obtain her e-mail address. Again, remember the 17 hour time difference. As it is the Sabbath in Australia, some may not read their e-mail until after teh weekend.
  37. 1 point
    Kevin H

    Everlasting Torment in Hell

    Some of the sources that has helped me in developing my understanding of hell, and helped me to notice this in the Bible and Mrs. White, are of course the religion classes at Atlantic Union College and also applying the writings of the poet - philosopher Eli Siegel to the situation. The most important thing about hell fire is the beauty of Jesus. Our deepest desire is to be like and with him. To love the world as he has loved it. Yes, at the fall we got the sinful nature, or a disposition to think we are for ourselves by making less of the outside world, to esteem ourselves more highly than others, to serve self, to seek the highest place. But unlike what Calvinism teaches, that is not all there is to us. Yes the other part was given to us from God in Genesis 3:15; God put something in us that finds evil not only attractive, but also ugly, there is also enmity between us and the serpent. A longing to be with the one who will crush the serpent's head. Jesus is the fairest of 10,000, the Lilly of the valley, the one more desirable than gold and sweeter than honey. He's the desire of all nations, the desire of ages, the one beloved by women. When Jesus was born the angels did not say that it was great joy for only the honest at heart, it was not great joy for the seekers, but great joy for ALL people. Each and everyone. Even Herod who tried to kill him, was still trying to use all of his evil to try to do what he thought he needed to do to find the world likeable. The traditional understanding of the Judgement: We stand before God with our knees knocking. Our record is reviewed and God either tells us that we are allowed into heaven where we run with joy and relief wiping the sweat off our brow and hoping to get into heaven before God changes his mind. Otherwise we are judged and God says we have to go to hell were we are dragged off screaming and begging for mercy and suffer the physical pain of the fire forever. Now we (and Mrs. White has helped us to see this) that hell fire is the glory and beauty and love of God. Moses was unable to see God's face because it would have consumed him. He was able to only see the back of God. And from just seeing the back of God he shone so bright that he had to wear a veil. When Jesus cleaned out the temple we find that his divinity flashed through humanity and people ran in 2 directions. The money changers were running away from it, and children and the poor were running TO it. How often to you see children running with joy to an angry man with a whip? Yet there was something about Jesus' anger that made the little children and the poor want to run and be with him. That flash of divinity that made the money changers run away and children and poor and ill run towars him was a peek at hell fire. Mrs. White pictures that when Jesus comes and we see him in all his glory It will be so awesome that we all ask "Who shall be able to stand?" There is a moment of awful silence, the angels stop their singing. Then Jesus says [sings?[ "My grace is sufficient for you" Notice Jesus does not say "My grace is sufficient for some of you" He does not say "My grace is sufficient for you and you but not you over there, and it's sufficient for you, no not you I'm talking to the person standing behind you, sorry for the confusion and false hope you held until you realized that I was talking to the person behind you" Jesus tells all of us that his grace is sufficient for me! However Mrs. White points out that despite what Jesus just told me, that the people who hear him give 2 responses. The one group says "Of course his grace is sufficient for me! This is my God and he will save us!" But other people who just heard Jesus tell them that his grace is sufficient for them feel that he's lying, and with the influence of existentialism on our culture they have become slaves to their feelings. They feel that his grace is not sufficient for them and as they see their lives in contrast to his purity they believe that God is going to get them for their sins, they run in terror to the hills and caves and say "Fall on us and hide us from the one who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb." "Wrath of the lamb" Can you picture yourselves hearing a news bulletin "Lamb escapes from the children’s zoo lock your doors and stay inside? The lost have no more need to be afraid of Jesus than they are of a little lamb. However they are terrified like never before and the brightness of his coming consumes them. We have the truth here at the second coming, but then we fall apart and into tradition and superstition at the third coming instead of carrying out what we saw a taste of at the second coming to be in it's full force at the third coming. So at the end of time. Isaiah 33 asks who can live in the eternal fire. The answer is that the righteous live forever in that fire. When prophets first saw God in vision they felt like they were being burned alive. But learned that they could not only survive in that fire but thrive in that fire and hated not to be burning in that fire. Deuteronomy 4:24 reads For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God. We, all of us have 2 attitudes fighting with in us. One is our sinful nature or a disposition to think we are for ourselves by making less of the outside world. To esteem ourselves more highly than others, to serve self, to seek the highest place and often this results in evil surmisings and bitterness of spirit. Fighting disposition this is a gift that God gave us in Genesis 3:15 which is not only a promise of the messiah, but that there is something in us attracted to God and beauty and repulsed by the ugliness of sin. That our deepest desire is to love the world as Jesus has loved it. Then for us his mission is accomplished. We are fitted for heaven for we have heaven in our hearts. Everything we do builds on one of these two attitudes and weakens the other. Yet even at our worst we are trying to manipulate the world into what we think we need to be able to like it better. And even at our best there is a taint of selfishness and thus truly our best is like filthy rags. Thus everything we do has both elements of respect and contempt in it. At the end of time we do what Moses was not at that time ready to do, see God's front (granted there will still be the unapproachable light and deep darkness reminding us that there is more to God then what we are seeing so that we don't commit the sin of idolatry and think we are seeing God in total). But we will see him in love and glory. Jesus is our deepest desire. The one altogether lovely, the one sweeter than honey and more desirable than gold. The one beloved of women (a forgotten Biblical name of Jesus). We are all overwhelmed by his beauty and glory. The righteous find it heaven to be in this situation and we respond to the overwhelming aspect of seeing our filthy rags in contrast to Jesus' holiness by casting our crowns at his feet singing "Holy, Holy Holy, worthy if the lamb!" and at the second coming our sinful nature, or the disposition to think we are for ourselves by making less of the outside world will been burned out of us. To the lost they are in a dilemma. Jesus is their deepest desire. They are overwhelmingly attracted to his beauty. They long to run into his loving arms and give themselves fully over to him. They are welcomed by Jesus who tells them that his grace is sufficient for them. But as they contrast their selfishness to his righteousness they do not sing the song of the redeemed. They are unforgiving people and thus they cannot comprehend forgiveness. They think that sooner or later God is going to get them for their sins. Jesus in John 3:18-21 said that there is only ONE reason why people are lost. And that it because they won't come to the light for fear their deeds will be exposed. For fear that God is going to get them for their sins. (while those who do come to the light find not a condemning God but a welcoming God who changes them). The lost see loved ones around the throne who they long to be reunited with. But they also remember how they would use things like criticizing, complaining, blaming, nagging, threatening, punishing and rewarding to control to make these people do what they wanted them to do. They see how horrible and selfish their interactions with even their loved ones has been. And they see others who they did not love and who they wanted to hurt. And they are horrified especially as they contrast their behavior with the purity and beauty and self-sacrificing love of Jesus. And they know that the one who sits on the throne knows the deepest recesses of their mind and heart and they want to pull away from the source of life. Hitler does not see the final solution from the results of thousands of years of sin and excuses, but sees how these acts were seen through the pure eyes of God. So everyone will see themselves. The redeemed cast their crowns and sing out of gratitude, while the lost want to pull back and hide from the only source of life. Yet Jesus is still their deepest desire. They are in a dilemma. They want to run to Jesus and accept his grace, but they refuse to yield to this desire. It's God's nature to love and forgive and to draw all unto him, but God's love is a power that brings out the best in us. For those who do not want the best in them to be brought out, who are horrified at the ugliness of their sin and don't trust in God's grace but are slaves to their feeling where they feel that God is going to get them so also want to pull back from the one they so long to run to. It is a very uncomfortable position. It is even worst than the traditional Catholic/Baptist hell. Heaven and hell are not two different places. God does not say to some of us we can go into heaven and send the rest to hell. We are wrong when we say that the fire burning forever does not mean forever. "The Glory of him that is love will consume the wicked" When does the glory and beauty and love of God burn out? Never. It's just that some of us will find it to be heaven to burn forever in the fire of God's love and beauty and glory, while others will find it to be hell and consuming and death. God treats each and every one of us the exact same way. Lucifer is treated the same way as Gabriel. Judah is treated the same as Abraham. The only difference between heaven and hell is that one is embracing all of reality with joy and enjoying reality and enjoying their friends and loved ones and have allowed the selfishness to have been burned out of them and to cast our crowns at Jesus feet and sing "Worthy is the lamb" and others are following a sick figment of their imagination that God's grace is not sufficient for them, are slaves to their feelings that God is going to get them for their sins. They become prisoners of their minds where they have created their own morbid heaven of complaining and whining about how unfair everything is only to see that God is indeed fair, and to come up with excuses but see that they have no excuse yet they refuse to leave this state of mind. Hell is locked not with a pad lock but a sliding lock and it's locked from the inside. As they see all their excuses melt but refuse to yield to their desire to run to him they make a compromise. They go on their knees and admit that God is indeed right, but they refuse to go further. This dilemma between wanting to run into his loving arms and have him wipe their tears from their eyes and wanting to be with him like nothing else they have ever been attracted to ever before, yet their refusing to yield to this desire and instead stay in their fear of what God would do to them and their morbid heaven of complaining and whining becomes so intense that it quite literally rips them apart and disintegrates them. God is the great purifier, he does not need some other flame for a clean up job. He is the great consuming and cleansing fire. On the one hand God is completely active in the destruction of the wicked. He is not passively twiddling his thumbs. The event that is so horrible for the lost is seeing God in full beauty and love and glory. If he did not show them this they would not have to suffer hell. On the other hand the lost are completely active in their own destruction since they make a different choice in how to respond than the saved.
  38. 1 point
    GayatfootofCross

    New Jerusalem Population

    Billions n Billions will be there! Experiencing God's love for me has expanded from what man can not number (Rev 7:9) to.. a look at the Hubble Telescope (Gen 22:17) at just a sliver of the black sky! And our country homes/estates can be as large as counties! A world without seas can hold it And numerous Great Lakes can hold tons of aquatic life. God is infinite in love and housing capabilities.
  39. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    New Jerusalem Population

    I think that such talk is one reason why Christians are sometimes considered to be fools.
  40. 1 point
    rudywoofs (Pam)

    Islam, Christianity & Prophecy

    no
  41. 1 point
    Kevin H

    Islam, Christianity & Prophecy

    There is a very important article in the Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary titled "The Role of Israel in Old Testament Prophecy." While that article gives a good overview, you can also take the principles of that article and come up with more specific applications to different periods of history. Had Jesus been accepted when he came, there would not have needed to be a second coming. Things could have wrapped up with the first coming. Also, an exegesis of Mathew 24 and the other chapters did indeed tie together the fall of the temple with the second coming. A major reason why the church lost it's first love in Revelation was that the temple fell and Jesus did not come. (One of the theories behind the book of Hebrews is that it is explaining the great disappointment of 70 AD.) [related to this is that one of Desmond Ford's mistakes was that he clearly saw that the New Testament Church was looking forward to the second coming in their day. Sadly he thought that the second coming that they were looking for was the only Biblical second coming instead of seeing the many different times that he could have come had the gospel been spread.] Once again we must not confuse our eschatology with the possible eschatologies that we have had all through history.
  42. 1 point
    Kevin H

    Islam, Christianity & Prophecy

    I'm open to the possibility that there are two extremes. One is that the middle east no longer has anything to do with last day events, the other is that it will be central for last day events. Deuteronomy 4 gives two possible histories of Israel. One is staying in the land, being faithful and blessed and having the world come to them. The other is how God would use them in exile from the promised land and their mission would be to "go ye in to all the world." Back when God was offering to use Israel in the land, that piece of property was the center of the world. It was the junction of the major trade routes between Europe, Asia and Africa. Today it no longer occupies such a central place thus no longer provides the potential that the land had back in ancient times. Of Deuteronomy 4 the only viable application is exile theology. However, the land is central to people of the book. The 3 monotheistic religions. People who have truth but will either use it in a respectful way and be used by God, or used in ways of self exaltation and be used by Satan. Also, among the fundamentalist movement of all 3 groups the Christians and Muslims are expecting Jesus to come to Jerusalem and the Fundamentalist Jews are expecting the Messiah to come in the same way. So the middle east will be a field of examples in both how God can use people from all three groups and how Satan will use people from all three groups.
  43. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Islam, Christianity & Prophecy

    As I understand Pam's post, she did not suggest that you were calling DB a pedagogue. As I read it one could draw any of two (2) inferences from her post: a) She was calling DB A pedagogue 'b) She was calling you a pedagogue. Perhaps she was doing neither? Perhaps she was only doing one of the above. In any case, I did not perceive her post to be a negative. I would not be offended if anyone here called me a pedagogue. By the way, the reason that I posted the web dictionary definition that I posted was because it most closely met the standard dictionary definition that I had learned many years ago. It meets the definition of my current American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language.
  44. 1 point
    rudywoofs (Pam)

    Islam, Christianity & Prophecy

    that's your opinion, just as what Doug Batchelor states, is *his* studied opinion. nobody's forcing anyone to believe anything... it behooves everyone not to have one person, or one source, as their spiritual pedagogue on the meaning of scripture ...
  45. 1 point
    Stan

    British Columbia Church

    Here is a video I produced 13+ years ago..
  46. 1 point
    debbym

    Pope to Start Middle East Trip in Jordan During 'Suffocating Crisis'

    Muslim, Jews, and the Orthodox leader meet with the Pope.
  47. 1 point
    nuff sed

    Chia Seeds: More than Just a Pet

    Don't get fooled by those who want to charge you four times the price after convincing you that the White Chia seeds are the Miracle Food. IMO there is no difference between black and white. I used to get mine at Nutsplus.com....best price was 5 lbs. Now my local Health Foods (?) store has a decent price in bulk. Nuff Sed
  48. 1 point
    LifeHiscost

    Chia Seeds: More than Just a Pet

    In our household we use them on a regular basis but have found the need to go on the net to get them at a substantially reduced price as opposed to the local health food store, at least when buying them in bulk. God blesses! Jesus saves!
  49. 1 point
    John317

    Research Shows Moderate Alcohol Bad for Health

    I think the data is showing that Ellen G. White was right after all.
  50. 0 points
    B/W Photodude

    GC Control

    The article was a bit disingenuous in its use of the Ellen White quote regarding the general conference. And as usual for those supporting WO, they left out this quote: "When in a General Conference, the judgment of the brethren assembled from all parts of the field is exercised, private independence and private judgment must not be stubbornly maintained, but surrendered. Never should a laborer regard as a virtue the persistent maintenance of his position of independence, contrary to the decision of the general body." 9T, p. 260. Given that the church as a whole through the delegates to the general conference convention voted against the WO idea, how else is compliance with the mandate of the delegates to be carried out? While vitriol continues to be heaped on Ted Wilson be even Adventists in some circles, if he disregarded the vote of the convention, what would that say regarding his leadership? Again, I would say that the NAD, EUR, and the SPD are exhibiting very racist behaviors in carrying on like the rest of the church body doesn't have the good sense to believe what they do. Essentially, the NAD is largely now run by a bunch of beta-males willing to cave to the feminist movement. Truly sad.
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