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    Gregory Matthews

    La Sierra University Church Now Has a Sabbath School For Homosexuals

    The majority of SDAs would agree with the position that Gustave has stated. They would probably disagree with the idea that in a heterosexual relationship sexual intercourse should only take place in a context in which life could result. SDAs generally allow for birth control that is not allowed by Roman Catholics. In addition, SDAs would be willing to say that homosexual relationships can occur in a relationship that has affection. Catholics and the majority of SDAs agree that the homosexual condition, even if a result of sin, is not sinful itself. Rather, it is the homosexual activity that is sinful. Yes, these majority positions of the SDA denomination are being challenged today by some.
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    Gregory Matthews

    Stan in the News

    For the following, thanks to Adventist Today: Congratulations, Stan. I wonder what the disapproving letter to the editor was.
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Shall deceive many
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    The Wanderer

    Spring Has Sprung!

    The very first dandelion for our house, and yard, 2019: Im a firm believer in what Margaret Atwood said! What is your favorite thing about spring? (pun/poem intended)
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    The Wanderer

    This Commandment Have I Received

    I agree, and thats the major reason I posted the following several times so far in this topic:
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    phkrause

    This Commandment Have I Received

    Interesting quote from Heath! I guess he could've used more people to ask him that? It's sad that people come to that decision like he did!!
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    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About The Red Baron Manfred von Richthofen, a.k.a. the Red Baron, was killed in action on this day in 1918. The flying ace had racked up an impressive 80 in-air victories and had become one of the most feared sights in the sky during World War I. Here are five things you didn't know about the Red Baron... His Nickname Came From a Plane He Didn't Use for Long While he'd used red planes for a while, the plane that von Richthofen was best known for was also one that he didn't use for too long. This was a Fokker triplane, painted a bright red, that he started using in 1917. He used it for less than a year, but it's the style of plane that he's most associated with in popular culture, and it may have been the plane that finally got him his "Red Baron" nickname. He Was Only 25 Years Old When He Died "Baron" evokes an image of an older, distinguished man, possibly with a mustache; if all you know of the Red Baron is the picture on the pizza box, it's understandable that you'd have that image in your mind. But von Richthofen was only 25 years old when he was shot down. He was an incredibly fast learner who had only joined the Imperial Air Service three years prior, and as careful as he was to protect his squadron, he soon developed a well-deserved reputation for accuracy and aggressiveness. No One Really Knows Who Finally Shot Him Down The Red Baron's death is one of those where we know some details for sure, but just enough are hazy to create an air of mystery. It is known that he was shot down on April 21, 1918, and that he was chasing a Sopwith Camel. At this point, the facts start to become jumbled. One Canadian and two Australians have been given co-credit for shooting him down, and there may have been gunfire from both another plane and the ground. There are also reports that a lot of people were firing on him — this would be completely understandable given how important it was to British, Canadian, and Australian fighters to prevent the Red Baron from killing anyone else. Whatever the means, the end was that he crashed into a field, dying quickly afterward. He Crashed on His First Solo Flight In 1915, von Richthofen requested a transfer from the army to the air service because he wanted to see more action. He was determined to do more than just work along a supply line. While he had already been awarded a medal for bravery, that wasn't enough for him; long story short, he wanted glory and to make a name for himself. His commanding officer allowed the transfer, landing von Richthofen in the observer's seat of a plane. He soon started training to fly on his own, which didn't look promising at first; he crashed his very first solo flight. But he practiced so much and became so much better that he was soon recruited for a flying squadron led by Oswald Boelcke, then considered the best pilot in Germany's forces. He May Be More Famous in the United States Now Than in Germany When the Red Baron died, he was so famous that even the British gave him an honorable send-off. However, now, he may be more popular and better known in the United States than in Germany. Name recognition appears to be fading in his home country, but in the U.S., Snoopy's antics fighting the Red Baron while flying a Sopwith Camel, the Red Baron pizza brand, and even the link with the name of British comedy troupe Monty Python's Flying Circus ("Flying Circus" was the nickname of von Richthofen's squadron and a common name for barnstorming troupes) keep his image alive.
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    The Wanderer

    This Commandment Have I Received

    Remember, not all who wander are lost. As we celebrate this Easter Sunday, I am reminded of the above text I saw written on a scrap of paper by an elderly fellow I once looked after who was dying: "that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death," (Phil 3:10) Wishing you peace in your heart, which is one of the main "resurrection" points of this verse. The cross explains what Jesus thinks of all the people we love to condemn because of their orientation, or their disorientations and that we so fondly use to make out like our sins are "better" because we "are the Church." The Voice of the cross echoes through the ages, repeating the Savior's words to all of those people, and to you today: "The Master calleth for thee..." (John 11:28)
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    B/W Photodude

    La Sierra University Church Now Has a Sabbath School For Homosexuals

    I would really disagree with you here. In the near-sighted view of many in the NAD and of the progressive wing of the church might take that view, but the church is a world wide church and I hardly believe that "homosexual relationships can occur in a relationship that has affection" is part of the whole world wide church belief system. It has been said that in the end times the world would be much like Sodom and Gomorrah. I never dreamed that in certain places the church would also have the mind of Sodom. While the homosexual condition is a result of sin and should be considered a character flaw, the promise of God is that characters will be repaired even in this life time. Paul speak of doing a work in us before Jesus returns. While the flaw of homosexuality and other perversions can be repaired, that does not necessarily mean people will become "straight." Paul even invited people to not become involved in any relationships. Paul also spoke convincingly, at least to me, of waiting for Jesus to be reproduced in us. "Have the mind of Christ" and "put on Jesus." If that is done, there will be no room for homosexuality and other perversions. Having the love of God will also lead one to care enough for others to not allow themselves to lead another person into sin and eternal loss. I realize that many do not believe that people will be changed before Jesus comes, but I do not understand why. It is really so simple that even a caveman should be able to understand it.
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    Gustave

    La Sierra University Church Now Has a Sabbath School For Homosexuals

    Here is what my Church Officially says about homosexuality. 2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved. 2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition. 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. So, as I understand this a homosexual has as much right as anyone to claim the merits of Christ & do their best to live according to the Christian Faith. It's the homosexual ACTS, that under no circumstances, can be approved. To say it another way a homosexual is to refrain from homosexual acts LIKE A HETROSEXUAL is to refrain from sexual acts outside of marriage. The caveat here is that there isn't a mechanism to justify or validate homosexual acts because EVEN IF a homosexual marries another homosexual the sex acts are disordered and contrary to the natural law. As one guilty of violating #2253 & #2254 I can appreciate how difficult this "sentence" would be for a gay person who has genuine same sex attraction because unlike heterosexuals - - marriage does not make the homosexual sex acts complaint with Christianity. This is a tough deal for queers and easy for us heterosexuals to waltz off into the sunset with our spouses not even attempting to quantify how this feels for gays. I've had the privilege to work around many gay people and several of them told me they realized they were gay at a very early age and wanted more than anything to not be - I especially feel sorry for these folks. Jesus died for them as much as He did for me and at the end of the day perhaps Jesus will forgive them for momentary failures like I think and hope He has forgiven me for mine. I didn't want anyone to think I hate queers or anything like that because I don't. LGBTQQ has been around since humans started walking the planet and they are here to stay - it's just that with the internet and modern tech they have more of a voice than they used to and are more brave in showing themselves out in the open. I believe that there is a good and bad part to this.
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Kingdom against kingdom
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Abomination of desolation
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    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Shall be affliction
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    Bravus

    What do the Bible texts used to condemn homosexuality actually mean?

    Apology for the wall of text, but although I don't know a lot about theology, I do know that 'a text without context is a pretext'. So let's look at these two Leviticus texts in the context, at least, of their chapters. Ideally in the context of the whole book, so do please check that if you have the time! Leviticus 18 King James Version (KJV) 1 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the Lord your God. 3 After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. 4 Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the Lord your God. 5 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the Lord. 6 None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the Lord. 7 The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness. 9 The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover. 10 The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness. 11 The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 12 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman. 13 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman. 14 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt. 15 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 16 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness. 17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness. 18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time. 19 Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness. 20 Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her. 21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord. 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. 24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: 25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. 26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: 27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) 28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. 29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. 30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the Lord your God. Note the reason given for these rules: because God is God, and to differentiate the Israelites from the Egyptians and the Canaanites. Many of these sexual and other sins were related to the worship of other gods such as Moloch. The word 'abomination' is about profanation, about the worship of other gods or perverted worship, rather than about sexual sins in general. Many of these things we would still consider to be wrong today, but in many cases for different reasons. Note that the reasons for many of the prohibitions on sleeping with particular women is because they are considered the property of particular men - your father, brother and so on. Today we would say that sex with siblings and with animals is wrong because of the lack of free and informed consent.
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