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  1. 4 points
    8thdaypriest

    Questions on Genesis

    The belief that "Sons of God" (either fallen angels or created beings from other worlds) had sex with human women who bore offspring, and were then shut up in "the pit", comes mainly from The First Book of Enoch, an Apocryphal book. A very small portion of 1Enoch was quoted by Jude, and Peter alluded to it (or both were using an as yet unnamed source). I very recently read through that book. I prayed earnestly first. Interesting read, to be sure. The Nephillim were 300 cubits tall (450 feet). Really! How could they possibly have sex with women? In First Enoch, (and excuse me for being gross here) The Watchers = fallen Angels = Stars = Sons of God (used interchangeably) , "had penises like horses". (Wonder how large horses were back then.) How could human women possibly give birth to such large babies. The Nephilim would live 500 years? Guess this was their lifespan - or the lifespan of their flesh. Then their spirits leave their bodies, and are confined in the place of conscious torment, until the judgment. The "stars" which disobeyed the Lord are bound in the place "under the earth" "until ten thousand years, the time of their crimes, have come to pass". If they "lived" only 500 years, how did they commit crimes for 10K years? Doesn't make sense. Another place says the spirits of wicked HUMANS go to a place of torment "whose souls are punished and bound there forever. Thus has it been from the beginning of the world." Does not agree with my understanding that the dead are unconscious. No wonder the Catholics teach unending conscious torment in HELL. They include the Apocryphal books in their Bible. Angels are presenting the prayers of the saints before God. I thought we have "one Mediator". Writing with pen and ink was introduced by a fallen watcher named Penemue. This caused many to go astray. Really? Writing with pen and ink was evil? Personally, I believe that God introduced writing to preserve a record of history, of His law, and of His dealings with men. In 60:1, Enoch is 500 years, 7 months, and 14 days old when he has a vision about judgment and sea monsters, etc. etc. Genesis says Enoch was 300 when the LORD "took him" away, and he was never found afterwards. Does Enoch receive this vision after he is in the heavenly realm? Enoch says the year is 364 days. Wrong. It's 365.25 days. If Enoch is passing on what he was "told" by the "angel" named Uriel, who "guides all the seasons and the heavenly luminaries of the sky" then Uriel was wrong. More likely, Enoch was actually written some time after 800 BC. That is the time when the extra days were incorporated into calendars around the world. Most probably a near earth fly by that pulled the earth into an elongated orbit. I believe another one will pull the earth back into a 360day orbit, so the end time prophecies can be fulfilled. If the Book of Enoch was actually written after 800BC, then it was NOT the vision of the original Enoch. 12 "portals of heaven" - the sun is directed through a new one of those 12 "portals" each month. Doesn't fit with science. 81:1 "Enoch, look at the heavenly tablets" This one sounds like Joseph Smith. Sorry. 83:1-11 is Enoch's first vision. He writes about "the abyss". Seems he had heard of it. Wonder where? From demons. 86:1-6, 87:1-4, 88:1-3 The first fallen angel was named Azazel. Raphael cast him into the abyss. Really? I thought Satan was the first fallen angel, and Christ will cast him into the Abyss. There are four archangels. There names are Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, Phanuel. In my Bible there is ONE Archangel (chief or head of angels). His name is Michael - the Son of God. I will stop here. So many things seemed inconsistent with the rest of Scripture, or at least with my understanding of the Scriptures.
  2. 3 points
    JoeMo

    Holy Spirit Withdrawn from earth

    Just because I don't believe that EGW was a prophet in the OT sense does NOT mean I don't respect her as an inspired writer, like many other revivalists like Billy Graham and Jonathan Cahn. There are some things EGW states that IMHO are contrary to a plain read of scripture (at least my understanding of it). There are also many inspired insights into scripture in her writings; and I have learned from her writings over the years.
  3. 3 points
    Gerry Cabalo

    Out of Adventism

    I’m so saddened by this story. We graduated together from Southern, but had little interaction because we had different majors. It seems he has followed the steps that comes to mind outlined by the same inspired.person he has disavowed - doubts about the SOP and end up doubting Scripture itself. If absolute assurance is what he craved for, I’m surprised he didn’t join the Baptists. I also wonder how he could have assurance knowing he is breaking one of the 10, assuming he has embraced the full the teachings of the Disciples of Christ.
  4. 3 points
    The Wanderer

    Questions on Genesis

    I like the way you put this into context Nicely done.
  5. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    The Time Allocated for the Judgment. . .

    One of our members has begun a thread that was titled The Time Allocated for the Judgment. . . . I have moved that entire thread from public view. In the opening post, it attacked a denomination and associated it with Satan. In this forum, we want people of differing views to be able to come here and find it to be a safe place to discuss their differing views. To openly associate a major Christian denomination with Satan does not make this forum a safe place for members of that denomination to come and talk with us. Further, it is so far outside of SDA views that it is likely to confuse people as to actually what the SDA church teaches. We allow considerable latitude as to what is presented in this forum. But, that post was so far outside of what the SDA church teaches that I have felt compelled to act. Yes, we in the U.S. have freedom of speech. That member is able to establish his own forum and publish there his views. But, we do not have to allow him to come to this forum and associate that Christian denomination with Satan.
  6. 3 points
    Kevin H

    Questions on Genesis

    No I am NOT saying that the Bible is not accurate. What I am saying is that we cannot impose modern ways of making genealogical tables on the Bible. We need to follow what we both see in the Bible and how it was done by others at that time. Even the genealogy we get of Jesus in both Matthew and Luke are very different, and I agree that Matthew is most likely using Joseph's while Luke is most likely using Mary's (even thought both claim to be Joseph's.). However as you compare the list to say who appears in other parts of the Bible you find both overlap and gaps. Matthew has it nicely divided in groups of 7s. This was a tactic used by Jews, understood by Jews as well as non-Jews back in Jesus day to make certain theological points. We think and use genealogies differently. As linguists compare Matthew's and Luke's lists with lists in the Old Testament there are different names that show up, different names that are not showing up and additional generations that would throw off Matthew's groups of 7 generations. Yet all of these made perfect sense to the Jews and others of Jesus' day despite the fact that it drives us crazy. I believe that the Bible is very accurate, that each and every one of those people we find on the different lists are indeed real people who were members of their particular grouping. However, I see you as wanting to make additional demands of the text that appeals to modern culture but which was foreign to their culture and use. At times you seem to want to follow what is popular in modern Christianity of people who have certain views about how inspiration should work so that they end up throwing temper tantrums that God has the audacity to actually work with the Bible writers in their culture and practices and understandings and I've seen and heard comments where they can become quite appalled that God did not force the Bible writers to cater to us and our culture and our practices and our understandings. After all doesn't God have foreknowledge? Surely he knew that one day we would exist so why on earth did he speak to the people in the days that the Bible was written in ways that they would understand, he should have seen it fit to force them to write for us only and for our culture only.
  7. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Military chaplain facing reprimand in same-sex case

    To talk a little more on this subject: Both as a military chaplain and as a VA chaplain, I have on occasion refused to perform the marriage of people who has asked me to do such and I have been asked by people who supervised me to account for my refusal. My foundational answer has been that my performance of a marriage is in the context of a religious rite, not that of a civil officer of the government, and as such I had the right to refuse to perform the marriage of any couple that I chose to do so, and I did not have to give any other reason. In some cases I did give additional information. In other cases I did not give such. In both the military and in the VA, I had that right under the Federal Constitution. NOTE: As an important point: Never was my performance of a marriage considered to have been formally sponsored by the Federal government. I was always acting in my role as a representative of the SDA Church. In this case, it is formally stated that the marriage retreat was sponsored by a command section of the U.S. Army. As such, different rules apply to that marriage retreat. Under those rules, the Army can not discriminate against a couple due to their gender preference. That rightly should be so. In such a situation, the command is in charge and the chaplain is only a participant in the retreat. The command controls who attends and may require that all who attend are lawfully married couples. But, the command can not discriminate on the basis of gender preference. The command may have asked this chaplain to participate. But, the command was still in control. The chaplain should have known that if he participated, he would be required to include in whatever he did every person whom the command had allowed to attend--without consideration of gender preference. He should have advised both the command and the senior chaplain on the base of his personal restrictions. This would have allowed the marriage retreat to be held at another time with the participation of another chaplain. I do not want to come down hard on the chaplain. But, he has some responsibility for how this developed. In addition, I will suggest that there may have been some things that the senior chaplain on base could have pro-actively taken to reduce the potential for this to happen.
  8. 3 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Military chaplain facing reprimand in same-sex case

    Typically, when I hear of alleged cases of a chaplain being discriminated against on the basis of the chaplain's protected religious beliefs, I can see that only half of the story has been told and based upon the information given to me, I do not believe that the chaplain was unfairly treated. IOW, I support the position of the military against the chaplain. This story troubles me. I can sense the position that the Army has taken as well as the position that the chaplain has taken. I believe that each side has stated, at least in part, a position that is correct. I am especially troubled by the action against the enlisted person, whom I suspect was the chaplain's assistant. My thinking is that the chaplain has the ultimate responsibility for the actions of the enlisted person and that the chaplain should be considered responsible. IOW do not go after the enlisted person who was simply following the directions of the chaplain. To, be clear, I do believe that the chaplain has raised some valid points. The direction that I am leaning toward in this is that on the Pentagon level the Office of the Chief of Chaplains should be engaged with the other generals in formulating a policy that addresses the issues that this raises and which seemingly have not been addressed. I think that this is foundational and that there is going to have to be coordination and communication between the Chief of Chaplains and the denominational endorsing agencies as they are going to have to become involved with further training of individual chaplains. I do not believe that this is a case that can be summarily dismissed in favor of either side. NOTE: As formerly on the teaching staff of the U.S. Army Chaplain School, I taught this very subject. However, this incident has raised issues in my mind that we at the School did not address in our training in any of our courses.
  9. 3 points
    pierrepaul

    Prayer

    Nor am I generally. However, many of the Psalms are written prayers; and many of our worship songs (be they hymns or other musical genres) are written and sung prayers. They are good too.
  10. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Trump & Christian TV

    It is long, but interesting once you are past an introductory part. See: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/22/trump-christian-evangelical-conservatives-television-tbn-cbn-218008?cid=apn
  11. 2 points
    The Wanderer

    Holy Spirit Withdrawn from earth

    Why in the world would you ask such a question. If thats why you are here, I am pretty sure you won't get far. JoeMo believes in "testing all the spirits" and I am sure his answer will not be something that you approve of. But then, your approval is not needed in order for us to read a book of our own choosing.
  12. 2 points
    CoAspen

    Do SDA's need an overhaul of endtime prophecy?

    Yes, we should change! The focus on someone or some thing has caused many to forget or inadvertently push Christ out of the forefront. For me THE endtime event is Christ coming not all the surrounding events or symbolic beast interpretations, etc. Are we waiting for the anti-christ or Christ Himself??
  13. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Holy Spirit Withdrawn from earth

    Who said there would be less of the Holy Spirit's power? While the Holy Spirit may be leaving those who are choosing to remain wicked, that does not mean the people of God will have less. In fact, they will have more. Exactly what is the "Latter Rain" but more of the Holy Spirit?
  14. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Questions on Genesis

    So few people in those days compared to today and they couldn't find unused" names?! Kinda confusing sometimes.
  15. 2 points
    8thdaypriest

    Holy Spirit Withdrawn from earth

    On the Pentecost which followed Christ's resurrection, Peter quoted Joel 2, and then said: "Repent, and let ever one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 'For the promise is to you and to your children and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.'" Peter was speaking by inspiration. Peter believed that it WAS "the latter days", and that this WAS "the latter rain upon the earth". Was Peter wrong? Why would people living just before Christ's return need LESS of the Spirit's power, than the early disciples of Christ, then those being burned alive or thrown to wild beasts in the Roman arena? Why would they need LESS of the Spirit's power than Elijah, who stood against the Prophets of Baal. Today there IS a flood of false teaching - a media blitz, and pressure from all directions. Why would we today need LESS of the Spirit's guidance and inspiration? Satan has found that peer pressure and a more subtle attack, can be more effective than overt physical persecution - with some people groups. The point is: "When the enemy comes in like a flood, The Spirit of the LORD will lift up a standard against him" (Isa 59:19 NKJ). The LORD will lift up this standard through His faithful. This happened in the past, and it will happen in the future - all the way to the return.
  16. 2 points
    8thdaypriest

    Holy Spirit Withdrawn from earth

    See Great Controversy, Chapter 39 - The Time of Trouble. pg 614 "When He leaves the sanctuary, darkness covers the inhabitants of the earth. In that fearful time, the righteous must live in the sight of a holy God without an intercessor. The restraint which has been upon the wicked is removed, and Satan has entire control of the finally impenitent. God's long-suffering has ended. The world has rejected His mercy, despised His love, and trampled upon His law. The wicked have passed the boundary of their probation; the Spirit of God, persistently resisted, has been at last withdrawn. Unsheltered by divine grace. they have no protection from the wicked one. Satan will then plunge the inhabitants of the earth into one great, final trouble. " I do not believe the redeemed (I don't call them "the righteous") will be without a Mediator/intercessor at any time. The Son of God was appointed "a priest forever" - not just until probation closes. I do not believe the redeemed will be supernaturally instantaneously transformed into literally "perfect" people. That is what the 1000 years are for - a period of rehabilitation and education, before we receive a new earth. So we won't mess it up the next time. Who really knows their own heart? We are committing sins every day, that we are not even aware of. Instant "perfection" - bypassing our own awareness and conscious repentance is manipulation. It is "the wicked" who have persistently resisted the Spirit of God, and refused to confess/repent, who will be "without an intercessor" - not the redeemed. Mrs White seems to equate "without an intercessor" - and Spirit withdrawn - and "unsheltered by divine grace". The redeemed with NOT be without grace. The Spirit will NOT be withdrawn from them. So why would we think they will be "without an intercessor" ??
  17. 2 points
    The Wanderer

    Equalizers

    Everybody needs somebody. to "watch" with them. (Mat 26:38, 40). Even Jesus needed it, and I believe that He experienced genuine grief and sorrow when He did not get it when He needed it most. "Watch with me" simply meaning to be there, with the person, listening, praying, or sometimes just nothing. Just being present with the person. Everybody needs somebody.
  18. 2 points
    rudywoofs (Pam)

    Equalizers

    I think everyone likes to be appreciated, and not taken for granted...
  19. 2 points
    Bravus

    Equalizers

    We all put on our pants one leg at a time.
  20. 2 points
    B/W Photodude

    Questions on Genesis

    I do not really think she "ignored" the "Nephilim." You can find many stories in the Bible that she never wrote about. She should not have had to carry around a spoon to feed everyone so that they would not have to do their own diligence in Bible study. I believe she did speak to the height of Adam. Lately, you will see many articles regarding "Nephilim" skeletons. However, the following article reviews some of these claims and discusses them in the age of Photoshop: https://www.thoughtco.com/giant-human-skeletons-found-in-greece-3299810 I find the whole idea of demons and human women producing offspring ludicrous, but easy top believe if you slept thru biology class. Angels are spirits and not biological (carbon based units!) entities. They have no DNA to contribute to offspring. If so, then Satan gets elevated to a God level in creating new creatures.
  21. 2 points
    Gregory Matthews

    Prayer

    I rarely write out a prayer that I am going to give in public. When I do, it is generally either a brief outline, or a list of essential elements that I may be expected to include. The prayers that I included in the OP were written specifically for publication in a pending book to which I had been asked to contribute.
  22. 1 point
    B/W Photodude

    10 benefits of walking everyday

    10 benefits of walking everyday: 1. Brain boosting effect 2. Improved eyesight 3. Prevention of heart disease 4. Increased lung volume 5. Benefits the pancreas 6. Improved digestion 7. Toned muscles 8. Sturdier bones and joints 9. Back pain relief 10 A calmer mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ka7B3hCg08
  23. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Do SDA's need an overhaul of endtime prophecy?

    100+ years ago, the pioneers could not have conceived of a world where a person could be digitally blocked, so that he could not buy or sell. Today for us, it seems very conceivable that cash will be eliminated and bank cards or implanted chips will become the only way to buy/sell. In Sweden (I think that's the right one) only 3% of transactions are presently completed using cash. The "number of a man" might very well be the number of each personal account - like the number on a credit card. Using an account number containing 6 digits-6 digits-6digits, financial institutions+government could "number" every person on earth.
  24. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Holy Spirit Withdrawn from earth

    I have shelves and shelves of "books" by different authors - all writing commentary on the Bible. I read those books. Why wouldn't I read EGW? I no longer regard her as an infallible "prophet". I believe some things she wrote are just wrong. But I read things published under her name, because I find much well written commentary on things Biblical, which I can then incorporate into my own thinking. I read her with a filter - that filter being the Bible and science and history. I read her with the understanding that she was NOT infallible. (Swollen heads and deformed limbs resulting from masturbation - just one example).
  25. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Do SDA's need an overhaul of endtime prophecy?

    There is a move within the SDA Church today to reinterpret certain of the prophetic passages. That should not be automatically rejected. One direction that some are going is to take a look at the place of Islam in the world today. Without accepting any of these attempts, or rejecting them, I will say that it is good to examine the Biblical truths that we proclaim and we must do this from the perspective that God always has additional information to give us. A position that I take is that we have sometimes focused on an assumed role for the Roman Catholic Church in prophecy to the place where we have ignored the underlying Biblical message. The so-called 3-angles messages is one example of this. I have preached on this passage, in a Protestant congregation, on a Sunday morning, and without ever mentioning the Roman catholic Church once. Rather I have focused on the underlying Biblical message which I believe is centered on God and the end of time. To me, the message there is that God is calling for every person to make a decision either for or against spending eternity with God.
  26. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Women in Leadership

    The following article reflects the doctoral work of a student who chose to take a look at that attitudes of people toward women in leadership positons and how those people related to questions as to the ordination of women. As a critique of the study, it should be clear to anyone who has done graduate work that the study was foundationally flawed, and therefore it should not be used to support any generalized conclusions. However, on the positive side, the author of the study supports that view and considers her work to only be that of a pilot study that should lead to future more comprehensive work. So, the author is making very limited claims related to the study. To me, the value of this work lies in the fact that it suggests that more work needs to be done. See: https://spectrummagazine.org/article/2018/04/21/study-compares-attitudes-toward-womens-ordination-and-women-leadership
  27. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Shall see God
  28. 1 point
    phkrause

    The Perfect Husband

    Moishe was at the club with some of his friends for a shvitz. Afterwards, they are in the locker room and Moishe picks up the phone on the bench when it rings and answers. He puts it on speaker so the others can’t help but eavesdrop. MAN: "Hello" WOMAN: "Honey, it's me. Are you at the club?" MAN: "Yes." WOMAN: "I am at the mall now and found this beautiful coat. It's only $1,000. Is it OK if I buy it?" MAN: "Sure, if you like it, go for it." WOMAN: "I also stopped by the Mercedes dealership and saw the new models. I saw one I really liked." MAN: "How much?" WOMAN: "$80,000" MAN: "OK, but for that price I want it with all the options." WOMAN: "Great! Oh, and one more thing .... The house we wanted last year is back on the market. They're asking $2 million." MAN: "OK, go ahead, but offer them $1.9." WOMAN: "OK. I'll see you later! I love you!" MAN: "Bye, I love you, too." Moishe hangs up. The other men in the locker room are looking at him in astonishment. Then he asks: "Anyone know who this phone belongs to?"
  29. 1 point
    The Wanderer

    Questions on Genesis

    I guess I was thinking when I said the Bible doesn't "delve into this for a reason" that I was thinking it doesnt elaborate at all on it, as in all the details that we are asking. A parenthetical mention of something does not make it into a doctrine? I think we have to acknowledge that details on this are very sketchy in the Bible? But I need to look into it further when I have a little more time. I will look forward to following up on this a bit in the near future.
  30. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    CA Assembly Bill 2943

    The California Assembly has passed bill # 2943 which must be voted by the Senate prior to becomming law. In general, the purpose of the bill can be summed up by the quote below. Some to include, some SDAs, have jumped on this bill to allege that it potentially violates the rights of Christians to write and speak against homosexuality. I consider that any idea that clergy would be prohibited by the bill from preaching against homosexuality to be false. I do not beleive that the bill prohibits the sale of the Bible. Rather, I consider much of what I have read against this bill to be false. In general, as I understand it, this bill extends the current prohibition under California law of psychological attempts to change gender orientation to include the commercial advertising of such gender change efforts. I beleive that it is clear that gender preference is not a choce. I did not chose to be a heterosexual. I do not beleive that homosexuality is a choice. I agree that so called attempts to change ones gender preference often cause harm to the individual. Notice that this is not license to sexual freedom. So, do not put words in my mouth that I have not stated. The bottom line: If you want to know the truth about this bill, which is not yet law, read it, rather than taking the word of people who may not correctly represent it. See: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55e08bc8e4b0c71256a51904/t/5add3a05575d1f40f9a66d9b/1524447750416/California+AB+2943.pdf
  31. 1 point
    Ron Amnsn

    Passover & Christianity

    I was not clear. I was using some of the common terminology used by Jews because I thought it would adequately identify the various parts of God's instructions for the purposes of discussion. The reason I use the term "the 613" was not because I thought that Maimonides accurately enumerated and correctly listed all the "laws" within God's Torah. I have limited confidence in Maimonides' list of 613 "laws" -- it is just one scholar's opinion about God's Word. I used the term "the 613" because other people use the term "the 613" as a convenient and unambiguous way to refer to all of God's instructions in the Torah (however many there may actually be). When a person refers to "the 613" we clearly know they are not speaking of any subset of God's Torah such as the "ten commandments", the "two greatest commandments", or any other subset of God's instructions such as the imaginary man-made subsets often referred to as "moral law" and "ceremonial law". If Christians used the term "Law" as it is used in the Hebrew Scriptures and the Greek Scriptures there would be far less confusion. Christians have confused themselves by thinking (contrary to the specific command of Jesus) that Jesus somehow set aside or annulled parts of God's instructions given to Israel through Moses. Such thinking requires them to imagine that the word "Law" somehow refers to something different than the Hebrew word "Torah" from which it is translated. Christians have been further confused because the English translators mistranslated the Hebrew "ha debarim seret" [the words ten] and the Greek "tous deka logous" [the ten words] as "the Ten Commandments" causing most English-speaking Christians to erroneously think that a "commandment" is a special category of law consisting of only the Ten Words of the covenant document. I will respond to the rest of your post later.
  32. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Sacrifice of thanksgiving
  33. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    But joy cometh
  34. 1 point
    The Wanderer

    Questions on Genesis

    I hope you realize there are some important differences?
  35. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Holy Spirit Withdrawn from earth

    TYPE: Judas Luke 22:3 "Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve." The sin against the Spirit is unpardonable. The sin against the Spirit is persistent resistance, to the point of unreachable hardness. TYPE: Pharaoh TYPE: Israel Acts 7:51 "You stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you." The Spirit withdrawn, just means that Christ stops pleading with those who will not be reached/softened. He is respecting their own choice.
  36. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Holy Spirit Withdrawn from earth

    TYPE: King Saul 1 Samuel 16:14 "But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and a distressing spirit from the LORD troubled him. The "distressing spirit" was Satan. He was "from the LORD" only in the sense that he was allowed to trouble Saul.
  37. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Social Justice & SDAs

    We are living in a time when people expect churches to take stands on social justice. The following article is the first in a 2-part series on social justice as found in the writings of Ellen G. White, a co-founder of the SDA denomination. See: https://spectrummagazine.org/article/2018/04/19/ellen-white-and-social-justice-activism-part-1
  38. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Soldier Dies While Waiting

    In a news release today, the U.S. Customs and Immigration has announced that this soldier had become a naturalized U.S. citizen several months prior to his death! Now an investigation has been launched in an attempt to determine why he had not been cleared for his scheduled assignment.
  39. 1 point
    james423

    Lesson 4 - Salvation and the End Time

    Overall Question: What part do our efforts play in our actual salvation? Memory Text: 1 John 4:10 New International Version This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Sunday – The Love of the Father John 14:9 New Century Version Jesus answered, “I have been with you a long time now. Do you still not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. So why do you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 14:9 MATTHEW POOLE’S COMMENTARY Our Saviour still insists upon the oneness of himself with his Father, and the personal union of the Divine and human nature in him; for otherwise the apostles might have been with Christ a long time, and known him, and yet not have seen nor known the Father. But that supposed, none that had seen Christ, but must have seen the Father also, there being but one God. Monday – The Love of Christ John 1:1-3 New English Translation In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. 2 The Word was with God in the beginning. 3 All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created. John 1:14 God’s Word Translation The Word became human and lived among us. We saw his glory. It was the glory that the Father shares with his only Son, a glory full of kindness and truth. Philippians 2:5-8 Easy-to-Read Version 5 In your life together, think the way Christ Jesus thought. 6 He was like God in every way, but he did not think that his being equal with God was something to use for his own benefit. 7 Instead, he gave up everything, even his place with God. He accepted the role of a servant, appearing in human form. During his life as a man, 8 he humbled himself by being fully obedient to God, even when that caused his death—death on a cross. Philippians 2:6 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY The Son is placed side by side with the Father, on an equal footing, in no way inferior. But Paul states this position only to show Christ’s willingness to relinquish it in the interests of man’s salvation. Romans 8:38-39 Contemporary English Version 38 I am sure that nothing can separate us from God’s love—not life or death, not angels or spirits, not the present or the future, 39 and not powers above or powers below. Nothing in all creation can separate us from God’s love for us in Christ Jesus our Lord! Romans 8:38 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Paul now expresses his own personal conviction that no power in heaven or earth, in time or in eternity, can separate us from the divine love. Paul does not mean by this that it is therefore impossible for a believer to fall away and be lost. Paul means that nothing can pluck us out of Christ’s arms against our will. Tuesday – The Love of the Spirit Luke 12:12 Common English Bible The Holy Spirit will tell you at that very moment what you must say. John 16:8-13 Christian Standard Bible 8 When he comes, he will convict the world about sin, righteousness, and judgment: 9 About sin, because they do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father and you will no longer see me; 11 and about judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. 12 “I still have many things to tell you, but you can’t bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. For he will not speak on his own, but he will speak whatever he hears. He will also declare to you what is to come. Acts 16:13 GILL’S EXPOSITION OF THE ENTIRE BIBLE He is as a guide, he goes before, leads the way, removes obstructions, opens the understanding, makes things plain and clear, teaches to profit, and leads in the way men should go, without turning to the right hand or left, which, without such a guide, they would be apt to do. Acts 13:2 Modern English Version As they worshipped the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” Wednesday – Assurance of Salvation Psalm 91:15-16 New Living Translation 15 When they call on me, I will answer; I will be with them in trouble. I will rescue and honor them.16 I will reward them with a long life and give them my salvation. Joel 2:31-32 New International Reader’s Version The sun will become dark. The moon will turn red like blood. It will happen before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes. 32 Everyone who calls out to me will be saved. On Mount Zion and in Jerusalem some of my people will be left alive. I have chosen them. That is what I have promised. John 10:28 Holman Christian Standard Bible I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand. John 10:28 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY There is only one way in which the sheep may be removed from the shepherd’s hand, and that is by their own voluntary choice. When the sheep depart they do so voluntarily, and have no one to blame but themselves. They cannot charge against Satan their defection, for though he may solicit he cannot force men to apostatize. This verse lends no support to the fatal presumption that once a man is saved it is impossible for him to be lost. There is nothing to prevent the sheep from wandering away from the shepherd’s care if they choose to do so. Romans 10:9-13 New Living Translation 9 If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved. 11 As the Scriptures tell us, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.” 12 Jew and Gentile are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him. 13 For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Romans 10:9 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY That God hath raised him. This fact, or article of Christian belief, is mentioned here because of its great importance, and its bearing on the Christian system. If this be true, then all is true. Then it is true that he came forth from God; that he died for sin; and that God approved and accepted his work. Then it is true that he ascended to heaven, and is exalted to dominion over the universe, and that he will return to judge the quick and the dead. For all this was professed and taught; and all this was regarded as depending on the truth of his having been raised from the dead. 1 John 5:11-13 New Life Version 11 This is the word He spoke: God gave us life that lasts forever, and this life is in His Son. 12 He that has the Son has life. He that does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God. Now you can know you have life that lasts forever. Thursday – The Everlasting Gospel Revelation 14:6-7 New King James Version 6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— 7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” Revelation 14:6 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY The Scriptures elsewhere speak of the “glorious” gospel (2 Cor. 4:4; 1 Tim. 1:11), but only here is the word “everlasting” used in connection with the gospel of the grace of God. There is but one gospel to save men. It will continue as long as there are men to be saved. There never will be another gospel. Revelation 14:6 COMMENTARY BY ALBERT BARNES The gospel is here called everlasting or eternal, (a) because its great truths have always existed, or it is conformed to eternal truth; (b) because it will forever remain unchanged--not being liable to fluctuation like the opinions held by men; (c) because its effects will be everlasting--in the redemption of the soul and the joys of heaven. In all the glorious eternity before the redeemed, they will be but developing the effects of that gospel on their own hearts and enjoying the results of it in the presence of God. Ephesians 1:4-5 New Living Translation 4 Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes. 5 God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.
  40. 1 point
    Gail

    Equalizers

    A crisis will bring people together, for example, 9/11
  41. 1 point
    Gail

    Equalizers

    What are the things in life in which we are all equal? Death and taxes, you might say. How about a commonality, or a need? What are the things that destroy castes, cliques, and other social class distinctions?
  42. 1 point
    dgrimm60

    Mr Nibbles Gets Record Breaking Surgery

    THE WANSERER this was a very good story===thank you for posting it dgrimm60
  43. 1 point
    rudywoofs (Pam)

    Mr Nibbles Gets Record Breaking Surgery

    awww.... great story!
  44. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Another First

    See: https://www.moaa.org/Content/Publications-and-Media/News-Articles/2018-News-Articles/She-s-Set-to-Be-the-First-Black-Woman-to-Serve-as-a-Marine-General.aspx
  45. 1 point
    Kevin H

    100 years ago tomorrow, April 21, 1918, Manfred von Richthofen, "The Red Barron"

    One hundred years tomorrow, April 21, 1918, Manfred von Richthofen, "The Red Barron" died. I became interested in him when I saw "It's the Great Pumkin Charlie Brown" with Snoopy going after him, then that Christmas heard the Royal Guardsmen sing "Snoopy's Christmas" (and had vage memories of hearing their song "Snoopy vs. the Red Barron" and happening to get for Christmas a game of Snoopy vs. the Red Barron where different colored marbles were sent down a shoot and you lifte...d the top of Snoopy's dog house and if snoopy caught one color he'd get a point but if he got the other color the Red Barron got the point. I was wondering what the larger issue was in who was this red barron and what connection with snoopy. So my mom got me a book on the Red Barron. I was expecting him to be some big burley crule looking brute. When I saw his picture I was shocked to see just a young guy who cared about his country and was trying to do his duty and was one of many in the military who's lifes were snuffed out because of war. This and my Grandma reading to me an article about Desmond Doss played a big role in my both respecting the military but wanting to serve to help ease the suffering of war. When I was serving in Germany on my first day where I could leave the base and start to travel on my own (I had on a previous day off taken a USO trip to a zoo but where they were teaching how to use the German train system) I went up and visited his grave.
  46. 1 point
    JoeMo

    Questions on Genesis

    Continuing on my journey thru Genesis: "Cush was the father of Nimrod, who became a mighty warrior on the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; that is why it is said, “Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the Lord.” 10 The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Uruk, Akkad and Kalneh, in Shinar.11 From that land he went to Assyria, where he built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir,[f] Calah 12 and Resen, which is between Nineveh and Calah—which is the great city." (Gen. 10:8-12) If Nimrod was the grandson of Ham, He was likely doing this stuff within 150 - 200 years after the flood. The earth had to be in pretty bad shape after the flood; so survival had to be a struggle. With only 8 people getting off the ark, how were there enough people to build these great cities, much less inhabit them? In Genesis 12 - 19, we see the story of Abraham and his journeys through several kingdoms. This likely occurred about 400 - 500 years after the flood. Humanity seems to have spread considerably over this period of time; and Egypt was the prominent Kingdom. It is probable that the great pyramids and the Sphinx had already been built. Again, where did all these people come from? Using the crude construction methods they had, how could they have built these kingdoms and monuments? Could it be that the Bible chronicles the history of the genealogy of Christ and their interactions with the nations around them, rather than chronicling the history of the universe or world? Maybe once a family, clan, or nation left the lineage of Christ and/or never interacted with Christ's ancestors again, their documentation of their history dropped from scripture. Just speculation to inspire discussion...
  47. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    School worksheet promoted anti-Muslim discrimination says state dept of ed

    Of course I am not saying that there is nothing on the website that is true. But, elementary school is not the time and place for teaching everything that may be true. In my graduate work in psychology, I have taken instruction in sexuality. This has included material that is not and should not be included in elementary education. That website was not the proper source of reliable information about Islam for elementary school students. I have taught World religions to graduate clergy. If I gave my students an assignment to write a one-page paper [NOTE: I often assigned them to write one page papers, which forced them to be concise and focus on their main point.] related to Islam, I would fail a student who submitted such a paper for a failure to be balanced.
  48. 1 point
    Kevin H

    Ronald Lee Ermey , Gunny

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey
  49. 1 point
    rudywoofs (Pam)

    Prayer

    I like the prayers Gregory posted. Public prayers that go on and on and on before the actual purpose of the prayer is even mentioned, drive me nuts. An example of that would be when someone is asked to bless the food before a meal, and that person drones on and on about the weather, about what they did (or will do) during the day, etc, etc, etc. I sit there and think to myself, "How long, Lord? .... "
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    John317

    Do SDA's need an overhaul of endtime prophecy?

    Thanks for pointing that out. I like your attention to detail. Yeah, the first quote on that post looks like it's something I wrote but in reality it is what Aliensanctuary wrote in post #136714. In that post, Aliensanctuary wrote: "If the Earth has been all but completely destroyed prior to the Milennium, what nations are left to be deceived? Isn't it now just a planet covered with rotting, vulture-pecked human corpses? Most corpses would have a little trouble being deceived, even by the Master-Deceiver, Satan." I wrote back that the earth will never be destroyed, which it won't. The earth is desolated at the Second Coming of Christ, according to my reading of the Bible, but it won't actually end, as some people believe. The earth abides forever, just like Solomon said (Ecc. 1: 4). That is great news today!! I agree with "Jehovah's Witnesses" on that point. I believe, as they do, that God intends for us humans to make our eternal home on the good earth, but I also believe-- unlike the JWs-- that humans will spend the millinium in heaven with Christ before returning to the earth.
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