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  1. 3 points
    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    Let's just say the Temple is rebuilt on the Mount at Jerusalem, and reconsecrated with the ashes of the Red Heifer. Let's say a priesthood of men with the right DNA is consecrated to minister there. Do you really think they will admit Christians? No way! They will require Pharisaic circumcision, with instruction, and likely a verbal rejection of Jesus as Messiah. Even if they do restore the Temple, with sacrifices, I doubt any one of us would be admitted there. So glad that Christ has already made atonement - for me, and I am justified before God, by faith.
  2. 3 points
    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    LXA Genesis 18:8 And he took butter and milk, and the calf which he had dressed; and he set them before them, and they did eat, and he stood by them under the tree. (Gen 18:8 LXA) Abraham did not boil a "kid" in its mother's milk. He only served both meat and milk product at the same meal. The Talmud (Oral Torah) expanded the prohibition to include mixing any kosher meat with any kosher milk product, in cooking and also for consuming at the same meal, but these commands are not in the written Torah. This is from www.jccmb.com, the Jewish Community Center One of the important aspects of observing kosher is keeping milk and meat properly separated. This prohibition is derived from the verse, "Do not cook a kid in its mother's milk." This verse appears in the Torah three times, twice in Exodus (23:19 and 34:26) and once in Deuteronomy (14:21). According to Jewish tradition, According to Jewish tradition (Talmud Chullin 113b), the Hebrew word g'di (kid goat) is understood to mean any young domestic animal—not only a kid goat. The repetition of the verse teaches us that it is not only forbidden to cook meat and milk together, but it's also forbidden to then eat or derive benefit from the mixture. In fact, the [Oral] Torah forbids the cooking, eating and benefit of the meat of any kosher domesticated animal, in any kosher milk. The [Oral] Torah simply gives an example of a "kid in its mother's milk" because that was common practice in ancient times. Rachel added [Oral] for emphasis.
  3. 3 points
    Ron Amnsn

    Under Law

    Which verse Which passage in God's Law of Moses supports your assertion that the meal Abraham served was not compliant?
  4. 2 points
    JoeMo

    Day of Atonement

    Today is Yom Kippur; arguably the highest holy day on the calendar of feasts ordered by God. For my Jewish friends, "g’mar chatima tovah" and "tzom kal" . For my gentile friends, have a "good final sealing" and an "easy fast".
  5. 2 points
    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    Christ told the Scribes and Pharisees Matthew 15:3 He answered them, "And why do you disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition?" Matthew 15:6 "Thus by your tradition you make null and void the word of God!" Mark 7:9 He was also saying to them, "You nicely set aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition." Mark 7:13 "Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like this." Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement of the Scribes and Pharisees interpretation of the Law. To me.
  6. 2 points
    JoeMo

    Under Law

    According to the British Museum, "The earliest writing we know of dates back to around 3,000 BC and was probably invented by the Sumerians, living in major cities with centralised economies in what is now southern Iraq." This is definitely in the Middle East. It was likely cuneiform. 'Then he ran to the herd and selected a choice, tender calf and gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it. 8 He then brought some curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree." (Gen. 18:7-8) Sounds pretty kosher to me(except arguably for maybe mixing the meat with its mother's milk).
  7. 1 point
    JoeMo

    Here's your (not so) totally useless fact(s) of the day:

    Just because you are afraid of your mother-in-law does not mean she's not dangerous! (In case my dear mother-in-law is reading, I don't mean you! You are a sweet, kind, wonderful woman!)
  8. 1 point
    B/W Photodude

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    Susan Fodor Magaitis is a Seventh-day Adventist pastor who works for the North New South Wales Conference. She and her husband, Steve, are co-pastors at the Avondale Memorial Church located next door to Avondale College in Australia. Susan Fodor Magaitis was also commissioned as a pastor through the laying of hands during a ceremony presided over by Neil R. Thompson, Ministerial Association Director for the North New South Wales Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. When things couldn't be getting worse, we have this "pastor" writing literature that would usually get any male pastor fired immediately! The recurring theme of “Ghost Girl” from start to finish is an explicit, oral sex act or sex scene penned by the Seventh-day Adventist Youth Pastor in Australia, Susan Fodor Magaitis, not once but several times! This is equivalent to pornography. And even though Susan, the porn-writing theologian, tries to clean up the story by teaching important life lessons, it’s still depicting literary porn. http://adventmessenger.org/seventh-day-adventist-female-pastor-theologian-and-published-author-from-australia-peddles-dirty-novels-on-amazon/
  9. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    Under Law

    Good point. There may well be a "Temple" built there again one day; HOWEVER, I am confident that it will not be THE TEMPLE that the prophecy is referring to.
  10. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    A process is taking place that is attempting to determine the truth and to be fair to all.
  11. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    Galatians 3:24 "Thus the law had become our guardian until Christ, so that we could be declared righteous by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian." (NET) I don't believe Paul is talking about the Ten Commandments or doing away with the Ten. He is talking about being "declared righteous". What must one do to be "declared righteous" - justified? Paul says "we are no longer under" the guardian that led us to Christ FOR justification. What then was the guardian? Answer: the system of sacrifices which began at the gates of Eden. One is not justified by the Ten Commandments. Romans 3:24 "But they are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus." (NET) Romans 5:1 "Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ," Romans 5:9 "Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him." 1 Corinthians 6:11 "And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." (NIV) Titus 3:7 "And so, since we have been justified by his grace, we become heirs with the confident expectation of eternal life." (NET) Seeking to be justified by any other means, was to sever oneself from Christ. Galatians 5:4 "You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace." (NKJ) You will say that you are not seeking to be justified through animal sacrifices. You just want to continue doing something that God commanded Ancient Israel to do. I understand your position. I just see no merit or benefit from the continued/restored slaughter of animals and the presentation of such to God. God doesn't want them. He said that He found no pleasure in them. Psalm 40:6 "Sacrifice and offering you did not desire-- but my ears you have opened-- burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require." (NIV) Hebrews 10:8 Previously saying, "Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them" (which are offered according to the law), (Heb 10:8 NKJ) Some say it will be good instruction for those of the nations who come up to the House of the LORD, to learn His ways. Really? If I can "get it" - can understand by reading the Scriptures, and seeing drawings or models, why can't they? Why do they need to see animals bled out, and then burned? Why is it not enough to describe the activities, and then say that prophecy was fulfilled by Christ Jesus?
  12. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Law is within 💖 Psa 40:8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
  13. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Another Look at the 2300

    See ;https://atoday.org/cyruss-or-artaxerxess-decree-issues-in-dating-the-70-week-prophecy/
  14. 1 point
    JoeMo

    Under Law

    By this comment I meant spiritual Israel - including faithful Gentiles who have been grafted in and those Israelites who turn their eyes upon Jesus for their salvation.
  15. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    Stinsonmarri & Anyone else: In my experience the critics of the SDA Church often post material that contains partial truths and some falsehood along with some truth. In addition I have seen the stories grow and expand as one person after another adds their input to the tale. Speaking frankly I have seen people knowingly make false charges against a denominational leader who have actually confessed to lying against that leader.. In my personal research on this case I have determined that some aspects of the charges against her may be partially false. I am not going to say any more at this time, on this. I am engaged in on going discussions with the involved Conference President. I have suggested some issues that need to be addressed. A process is taking place. Susan is being treated fairly. The alligations against her are being carefully considered. I hope that at a later time I will have a statement from the Conference that I can post and that I can share some of my thoughts. But that is not for now. In the mean time speculations on this issue will not be allowed. I want to thank Photodude, who posted the opening post, for allowing this process to continue to take place. I am keeping in touch with this process, which for the moment is confidential as it should be.
  16. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    6 Things You Probably Didn't Know About John Lennon John Lennon was born in Liverpool, England on this day in 1940. Lennon would become one of the most influential songwriters in the history of music after co-founding the Beatles. Here are 6 things you didn't know about John Lennon... He Claimed to Have Seen a UFO In 1974, while standing on the balcony of his apartment with former flame May Pang, the pair claim to have seen a flying saucer. He referenced the event in his song 'Nobody Told Me' with the lyrics "There's a UFO over New York and I ain't too surprised." He Signed an Autograph For His Killer On the morning of his murder, John Lennon signed a copy of his latest album 'Double Fantasy' for Mark David Chapman who would assassinate him later that day. Lennon Was Investigated By The FBI Following his arrival in New York in 1971, the FBI opened a file on Lennon, suspecting him of trying to influence the nation's youth with radical politics. The extent of their surveillance wasn't discovered until the 1990s. He Was the Only Non-Vegetarian Beatle George Harrison was the first Beatle to become a full-blown vegetarian, and Paul McCartney joined him a few years later. While Ringo eventually became a vegetarian for health reasons (rather than ethical reasons), Lennon could never fully commit to stopping eating meat. Lennon Played Monopoly All the Time While on the road, whether in a plane or hotel, Lennon brought along his Monopoly set and played often. He reportedly stood up when he tossed the dice and zeroed in on owning Park Place and Boardwalk. Reportedly, he didn’t care if he won or lost as long as he owned those two coveted Monopoly properties. Lennon Was Not an Good Driver Lennon didn’t get his driver’s license until age 24, and everyone who knew him considered him a horrible driver. After he totaled his car while in Scotland in 1969 with his wife, Yoko Ono, he gave up driving. After Lennon and Ono went home to England, they had the wrecked car mounted on a pillar as a reminder of the accident, and Lennon used a driver after that.
  17. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    Matthew 23:38 "See! Your house is left to you desolate; (Mat 23:38 NKJ)
  18. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    Under Law

    The thing about the various rites in OT Temple services of the Levites, is that your point has often been argued about over the years. People can do any of those Temple rituals anytime they want; but I already gave scripture that says they wont be needed after Christs death; for His Sacrifice trumps all others. Not sure how anyone can deny this. Saying that we MUST still do those ritual sacraments of the Levites, is like denying the original promise of Gen 3:15, and saying that the Bible contradicts itself; and that adds up to a denial of the need for Christs Sacrifice. If people feel a need to do some of those, its their right, I suppose, but it will never again mean what it used to. Bible says "Christ died ONCE for all"; therefore, why would ANY other sacrifice be needed? Just to make ourselves look pious and "prove" we are "religious?"
  19. 1 point
    Ron Amnsn

    Under Law

    There is a very good reason to interpret the "works of the law" in that way. The community that wrote the Dead Sea scrolls used the phrase "the works of the law" to refer to their community's man-made regulations that stipulated what a person needed to do to become and remain accepted as a member of the community. The context in which Paul also used the phrase "works of the law" is dealing with the requirements that Gentile believers were being pressured to comply with to become accepted as full members of the community of believers. Paul was advocating that Gentile believers should be accepted into the community because of the promises given to Abraham's descendants, of which Jesus is foremost, and the Gentile believer's position as a bondservant of Jesus, rather than on the basis of the traditional Jewish man-made requirements not found in Scripture.
  20. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    Under Law

    a true "legalist" would call this "sinner's excuse #356. A true Christian would call it the same thing as does scripture:
  21. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    Under Law

    It sounds more like you are posting some sort of mixed up behavioral analyses, rather than scriptural exegesis here. Scripture IS plain and clear that none of those sacrifices would be "valid" after Christ was crucified: "Once" means the opposite of all the oft-repeated "sacrifices" in the Temple that you speak of here, and its essential to put it into context: I would rather go with scripture, rather than anecdotal "rebuttals."
  22. 1 point
    JoeMo

    Under Law

    I kinda think that - no matter which Law one is referring to - once we have been justified by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, we are convicted on breaking the law; but not condemned - especially if we confess our transgression. Living in the Spirit rather than under the Law means following where the Spirit leads us in our path to being an imager of Christ. We will all mess up along the way; but if we keep our eyes on Christ and follow the Spirit's lead on the path to sanctification (trust and obedience), eternal life (free gift) will come with rewards for a job well done as well.
  23. 1 point
    stinsonmarri

    New Jerusalem Population

    That's right! 144,000 + 1! Why should we be surprize, Enoch prophesied, Elijah also and their reward they were both translated to Heaven. The 24 elders and the other witnesses came up from the grave with YAHSHUA! The Tribunal Court in Heaven has a jury the 24 elders. Court has other to witness to the investigation trial. Flesh beings are on trial, all names are place in the Book of LIFE; YAHSHUA died for the whole world. Investigated Judgment is both those who are blotted out and those who remain in the Book of LIFE! That is why most do not understand Rev Chapter 6. The World Book of LIFE was open and the four horses represent different time and stages the earth went through because of flesh beings. From the Adams to those sealed during the Time of Trouble and those lost as well; sealed ones will remain in the Book, wicked will be blotted out! EGW grew during a time when YAHWEH truth had been covered up. Mysticism and paganism had clothes themselves into false worshipping YAHWEH by the Whore and her daughters the Protestant churches. The pioneers was dealing with so many lies, like souls do not actual died, how many CREATIVE BEINGS are there? Three, two, or tri (1/3 +1/3+1/3)=1 is a trinity; HOLY SPIRIT: is it A BEING, a ghost, THE FATHER suppose spirit or YAHSHUA suppose spirit or could HE BE A BEING too? The lunar solar Calendar or Gregorian Catholic calendar (we used today), YAHWEH'S Holy days (they are called Holy Convocation and not feast days), vs Satan unholy days both are set times ( these are feast days: Christmas, Easter, New Year, Valentine, Whitsunday or Pentecost, Halloween, and many saint days)' the Sabbath vs Sunday, the Commandments are they just 10 are they more, eating animal flesh, what is a swine? Other health laws. There were so many things that had to be understood and it took courage during the time of the worst type of slavery on the earth! Chattel slavery to Afrikan people base on the color of their skin. Do you think this was easy it was not! None of them understood everything, they studied and they lived up to all they knew at the time. If EGW did not have the visions that she did, the rocks would have cried out the truth! Did the SDA reject the path YAHWEH was slowly leading them on, yes in 1888! But, HIS WORD will not come back to HIM VOID! Truth will conquer against darkness! I do not ask anyone to believe me, read the history of the church and history period. Ask why did they keep the Day of Atonement; one of YAHWEH'S Holy Convocation Days, to discover the Investigated Judgment! People of all kind sometime do not want to hear the truth, the whole truth! Choices have to be made! True deep studies have to been done! Prejudices have to be eradicated (please do not mix it up with racism even though it is under its umbrella)! You have to check out what and why do you believe the way you do! If you hold on to it without checking it out thoroughly-that's prejudice or biasness! We need to stop putting people down until you know the history completely about their lives and not myths or fairy tales. We all elevate who we want and put down who we dislike! We need to check out their lives and see if they lie. A liar cannot bear at all good fruit! We all have sin but their are those who continually sin and brings others down with them! They will lie and do evil things to others, they have no justice, they are selfish, and so much more! Finally, I stated the above because so many have told many untruth about EGW. Both in and out of the SDA Church. She was a messenger, who believed; she did not understand everything, but lived up to all that she knew. She made mistakes base on what she believed in the Methodist church to be true and it wasn't. She said when you see that she or the pioneers believed in something that was in error ( just like they find some things they use to believe was in error), she said to correct it base on the Bible and not on what we say! She wrote Testimony to the Ministers p. 105-119 because of that feeling. Thank you Sister White and praise always to THE MOST HIGH! Truth will be reveal, so YAHSHUA can come! Blessings!
  24. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    Matthew 23:2 saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses;" They might have been sitting in positions of authority over the people. Didn't make them righteous, or good teachers of the Law - or even accurate teachers of the Law. Many descendants of King David ruled over Israel. A few were righteous and ruled wisely. Most were not, and did not. Jesus did not teach people to rebel against the ruling authorities (whether Babylonian, Roman, or Jewish), except where those authorities compelled them to violate God's Law, or to renounce Christ as LORD.
  25. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Do Thy will ✨ Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
  26. 1 point
    Ron Amnsn

    Under Law

    I'm not aware of any text in the Bible that prohibits the foods that Abraham served. Which passages are you referring to? Let's take a look at them.
  27. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About Martha Stewart_2 On October 8, 2004, Martha Stewart reported to prison to begin serving a sentence for lying about a stock sale. Here are 5 fascinating facts you may be surprised to learn about everyone's favorite lifestyle guru... Stewart Used to Be a Stockbroker. Occasionally a picture from Stewart's modeling days shows up on this or that website, so many know that she used to be a model. Fewer people realize, however, that she was also a stockbroker in the 1960s. She was successful and had some unorthodox strategies, including wearing hot pants occasionally in meetings. She worked in stocks for six years before leaving for family reasons. As a Child, She Babysat for Some Legendary Baseball Players Martha Stewart grew up in New Jersey and worked as a babysitter occasionally when she was ten. She babysat for the children of Mickey Mantle, Gil McDougald, and Yogi Berra, all of whom were ballplayers for the New York Yankees. Mantle and his wife had four little boys, and Stewart not only babysat them but helped to organize their birthday parties. Her House Arrest Was Extended Because of a Yoga Class and an Off-Road Vehicle. Those five months of house arrest became five months and three weeks. Stewart was supposed to remain in her house for five months except for 48 hours each week, in which she was allowed to go to work, go to doctor's appointments, and take care of a couple of other basic tasks. Forty-eight hours per week is just under seven hours each day. Yet Stewart didn't do that well at obeying the restrictions. Not only did she attend a yoga session (not one of the approved activities), she also rode an off-road vehicle around her property. She Tried to Trademark the Name of a Real Town. If you've seen Martha Stewart brand products that use the name "Katonah," you're seeing the result of a compromise forged out of a trademark dispute. Stewart wanted to trademark the name for several lines of products, but the actual community of Katonah, New York, and especially all its businesses with "Katonah" in their names, were upset at the idea of their town's name being hijacked. Even more upset was the Ramapough Lenape Indian Nation, as Katonah was named after a chief. Eventually, the town and Stewart reached a compromise in which she can use the name for specific but limited types of products. She's America's First Self-Made Female Billionaire. On the day her company, Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia, launched its initial public offering in 2000, the stock tripled in value before closing, and Martha Stewart not only became an instant billionaire, but America's first self-made female billionaire.
  28. 1 point
    Gustave

    Under Law

    You know which two texts this is based off of & prior to saying that it doesn't apply or that the Jews got it wrong I'll remind you it was Christ who said that the Scribes and Pharisees interpretation of the Law was valid up until the point all power was transferred to the Church.
  29. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    The Conference President and I continue to have an ongoing discussion of this issue. This discussion is open and fair to both Susan and concerned people. As such it must remain confidential. I expect that at a later time I will be able to make a public statement. I personally thank the President for his willingness to talk to me. I will keep you informed as is appropriate, when it is appropriate, but not before.
  30. 1 point
    stinsonmarri

    Who's fooling who?

    Thank you Joe: You know she was not even my blood, she was my cousin's wife. They had been separated and he came and live with me. My mother had a birthday and he told me she could fry fish outside. We had my mother's and my grandson's birthday outside. It was very nice! When I returned to clean up my kitchen, I was shocked, it was so clean you could eat off the floor. That begin a friendship of love until this day! I talked her into reuniting with my cousin and move in with us. She did and fell deeply in love with my mother and me. She helped me with my mother, sad to say not my siblings. My mother fell in love with her as well and we became a family. I do not know what I would have done without her! When I had to have a quadruple bypass surgery my son and his wife and Barbara were all there for me. I had that surgery without any problems at all. I had been suffering since my youth with an Endocrine disease that brings on diabetes and other female problems. For forty years I tried to get this surgery done and it was a simple operation. The doctor used a robot that almost killed me. Sweet lovely Barbara was there for me and now I am here for her. They moved around the corner (we are in the country) from me. She has a lung disease; so, please pray for her everyone! She goes to church with me from time to time and we look out for each other, even now. We shop, visit the doctors and other things together. She is my sister and my best friend, I truly love her. Please everyone do not be sad, we all go through something! But, YAHWEH keeps us and makes us strong! My story is not sad, it is a trial! Victory is to praise HIM when we are down as well as up! There are so many who are going through much more then me! I tell you my story so we all can rejoice, and I like what you said Joe! That makes me feel happy, but I want you to know, many cultures including Europeans take care of each other! We all are related and have good people in our families. We can still pray for the others that they will change! Let's us all rejoice in how good THE ALMIGHTY ONES are to keep us even through our trials! Blessings and please pray for Barbara!
  31. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    I am meek 🌿 Matt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
  32. 1 point
    BlessedMan

    History/Sociology Of Canadian Religion

    there are true angels among us still! :D
  33. 1 point
    JoeMo

    Who's fooling who?

    I truly admire and respect the Afrikan-American culture if caring for family - no matter how far the distance of relation. Your cousin's wife taking care of your mom? Bless her!
  34. 1 point
    B/W Photodude

    Florida Hospital church at it again ...

    I believe that sometime ago I posted an article regarding the children's Christmas program at the Florida Hospital church. Seems they have outdone themselves. Their latest program involvement the story of Daniel and his companions. The program featured a band call "Danny and the Shacks." Seems the leader of this event was the children's pastor Vivian Cook. In the Bible, Daniel refused to contaminate himself with the king’s meat. But at Florida Hospital Seventh-day Adventist Church there is no need to reject the king’s meat. It was announced by female children’s Pastor Vivian Cook at the end of the performance that “a lot of Chick-fil-A” (chicken) and “ice-cream” would be made available for both the kids and parents (video minute 53:52). This is just another mockery of the biblical account of the Prophet Daniel. (You can see this event in the video Facebook link) Female Seventh-day Adventist Pastor Vivian Cook was the “director” for this entire project. She is a children’s pastor who works for Florida Hospital Seventh-day Adventist Church. http://adventmessenger.org/florida-adventist-hospital-church-makes-a-mockery-of-the-bible-during-their-childrens-program/ This article reminds me of one of the pictures you find in the comic sections of the newspapers. How many wrong things can you spot in this picture? If the founders of the church were still alive, how sad they would be. This is all done in the conference that denied Doug Batchelor speaking in one of their churches.
  35. 1 point
    B/W Photodude

    History/Sociology Of Canadian Religion

    It seems that one of the many things that happened when the missionaries came was to make the people wear clothes. I read of one missionary, a woman, who came to a group who were still "nature children", was to take off her clothes and become like them. She reported having good success with bringing the gospel to them. I do not believe she was SDA!
  36. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About Fox News On October 7th, 1996, the Fox News Channel made its debut on cable systems across the country (except in Manhattan). The network quickly climbed the ranks to become the most-watched cable news network in America. Here are five things you didn't know about Fox News... Time Warner Originally Refused to Carry the Channel in Its New York Market. When the Fox News Channel debuted in 1996, the Time Warner cable system refused to carry the channel in its Manhattan market. Time Warner was in the process of merging with CNN, run by Ted Turner, who was also one of Rupert Murdoch's rivals, so it makes sense that the cable company wouldn't want to give major exposure to a competitor. However, Time Warner had also been given an order to carry a competitor to CNN because of antitrust regulations. The solution was to carry MSNBC, which had started up in July 1996. Given that broadcasting in Manhattan was considered a way to get noticed by national advertisers who were based in New York, that choice gave MSNBC a huge boost. Meanwhile, the snub by Time Warner led Murdoch to begin working with Rudy Giuliani to try to get more exposure in the city. Fox News Channel Was Started After Rupert Murdoch Tried to Buy CNN. The CNN/Murdoch rivalry wasn't new. In fact, the reason Murdoch started Fox News in the first place was that he had tried and failed to buy CNN. He got Roger Ailes to run the network and create programming that would appeal to a more conservative base (Murdoch had long accused CNN of being too liberal). Murdoch had already started the Fox Broadcasting Company, running over-the-air TV shows, so he was not new to starting networks. He just needed the programming and people to create a news channel. Fox News Now Charges Higher Cable License Fees, but When It Started, It Paid Cable Companies Instead. One of Murdoch's tactics was to pay cable companies to run Fox News instead of the other way around. Normally, a cable company pays a license fee to a channel, allowing that company to broadcast the channel (it essentially rents the right to provide the channel to subscribers). Instead, Murdoch paid cable companies $11 per subscriber to include Fox in their lineups. Outside of Manhattan, of course, that gave Fox major exposure -- nearly 17 million households upon debut. Now, however, the situation has turned around, with cable companies paying some of the highest license fees per subscriber to broadcast Fox News. Rupert Murdoch Once Tried to Compete With Facebook. Murdoch didn't limit his attempts to compete and surpass existing companies to just news. He also tried to take on Facebook by purchasing the older MySpace platform in 2005. Over the next six years, MySpace's user numbers dropped. Especially after 2008, Facebook proved more popular. Murdoch later admitted the purchase was a failure, and criticism about the lack of a strategy for the site abounded. MySpace was eventually sold again for $35 million -- a loss of $545 million for Murdoch. Murdoch Has Had Multiple Cameos on The Simpsons -- and Voiced Two of Them Himself. It's common to see caricatures of popular figures on The Simpsons, but it can be quite a thrill for fans when the subject of the caricature actually voices his or her own cameo. Murdoch has done that twice, although he has technically had seven cameos in different episodes. Dan Castellaneta, who voices Homer Simpson, provided Murdoch's voice for the other five cameos.
  37. 1 point
    8thdaypriest

    Under Law

    NIV Genesis 7:2 Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, I always thought the LORD told Noah to take 7 pairs of each type "clean" animal, and only 2 pairs of each type "unclean" animal, because Noah and family would not be eating the "unclean" ones. If Noah understood what was "clean" for "food", the commands to Israel were just a refresher. So meats were Noahic "clean" not just Levirate "clean".
  38. 1 point
    Rahab

    3 word devotional

    Iniquity is pardoned ✨ Isa 40:2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.
  39. 1 point
    stinsonmarri

    Who's fooling who?

    I want you all to forgive me on my grammar. My right eye became sepsis and I don't see that well from it. Plus when younger, being honest I let others rewrite my paper instead of proofing it myself. Next my brain goes faster then my typing and I also have a verb problem. I proof now but still see common mistakes. This is my downfall and I have to get grammar to help me but it is costly and I working to buy it. If you notice I edit and include grammar because that's my problem. Now I have some of the greatest articles and creative writing, but my grammar stinks so I had other to reproof them. That's it and that's my flaw! Please pray and if you see something you do not understand just quote me back and I will try to correct it and that's to everyone. Blessings!
  40. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know about the Moulin Rouge_2 On October 6, 1889, the Moulin Rouge cabaret opened in Paris, attracting people from all walks of life. Here are 5 things you probably didn’t know about this risque cabaret that remains just as popular today as when it opened... The Name “Moulin Rouge” Means Red Windmill The Moulin Rouge displays a big red windmill with rotating arms at the entrance, and it refers to what was once the little hilltop village of Montmartre, a suburb of Paris. At one time, there were many windmills in the area, and Montmartre was known for its numerous artists and bohemians, cobbled streets, and vineyards. The windmill was added to the cabaret as a bit of whimsy and nostalgia, echoing back to the early days of the area. The French Can-Can Was Introduced at the Moulin Rouge Many people are familiar with the French can-can dance, in part due to famous paintings by Toulouse-Lautrec, who made La Goulue, one of the can-can dancers, famous. Although the dancers, who lifted their skirts and kicked, were thought to be catering to the amoral by some, it was perceived by others as a type of emancipation of women at the time. The can-can is still performed at the cabaret today, and in addition to dancers, exotic animals, magicians, and acrobats perform at the 850-seat venue, which is sold out every night. It Was One of the First Buildings in Paris With Electricity While Paris is nicknamed the “City of Light,” the Moulin Rouge was one of the first buildings to actually add electric lights. This addition had to have been dazzling to those who were used to gas or kerosene lamps, fireplaces and candles to light their way. Adolphe Leon Willette was a French artist of the period and was the architect that designed the building. He believed that using bright red electric lights on the building’s facade would signify it as an emblem representing the city of Paris. The World’s Most Highly Paid Female Entertainer Worked There Mistinguett, whose real name was Jeanne Florentine Bourgeois, was the daughter of a French day laborer and seamstress, but she wanted to become an entertainer at an early age. She performed risque routines at the Moulin Rouge, Folies Bergere, and other venues, earning a name for herself as the most popular entertainer in France. She became the highest-paid female in the field of entertainment. She was so popular that her legs were insured for 500,000 francs in 1919. The Moulin Rouge Holds Several World Records The “Guinness Book of World Records” recognizes the Moulin Rouge for serving the highest number of bottles of champagne each year. Although ticket holders usually receive a half bottle for each person, plenty of people buy more, which helps account for the 240,000 bottles of champagne served yearly. In addition to this record, the cabaret achieved a world record in 2014 for the can-can dancers lifting their legs 29 times within half a minute.
  41. 1 point
    phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Didn't Know About McDonald's On October 5, 1902, American entrepreneur Ray A. Kroc was born. Kroc rose from humble beginnings and built McDonald's into the most famous and successful fast-food restaurant in the world. Build up an appetite by checking out these 5 little-known facts about one of America’s favorite fast-food joints... The Restaurant Originally Sold Barbecue Maurice and Richard McDonald opened up a barbecue restaurant called McDonald’s in San Bernardino, California. Later they decided to change the menu to sell hamburgers, potato chips, pies, and milkshakes. Ray Kroc was a milkshake maker salesman who was impressed by the restaurant, and he bought a franchise, opening his first McDonald's in 1955 in Des Plaines, Illinois. The Company Operates a Hamburger University The first Hamburger University was opened in 1961 with a class of 15 students in Elk Grove, Illinois, in the McDonald’s basement there. Now, there are Hamburger University locations worldwide, which have trained over 275,000 managers as well as owners/operators, suppliers, and middle-managers. Training is done in places as far afield as Beijing, Tokyo, Munich, and Sydney. The Largest McDonald’s Is in Orlando, Florida When it comes to entertainment, the McDonald’s in Orlando, Florida is hard to beat. It is the largest McDonald's restaurant in the world. The building is 48 feet high and equipped with a 2,000 square foot arcade, a play structure that’s 22 feet tall, a singing animatronic, and a Ronald McDonald that is 30 feet tall. The menu is unique too, with offerings such as pasta, pizzas, waffles, and omelets. Some McDonald’s Around the World Are Really Different Travelers around the world may be surprised at the difference in menus at McDonald’s and what they offer to keep their local customers happy. In Sweden, at a McDonald’s located near a ski resort, people can stay on their skis to place an order. Hong Kong has taken it even further by offering wedding breakfasts to those who marry there. Wondering what that includes? The wedding feast consists of Big Macs, fries, and McNuggets. Menus at McDonald’s Vary by Country McDonald’s restaurants may look similar around the world, but their menus change to reflect what the people like. In Germany, you can order bratwursts on a bun and a beer to go along with it, while Israel offers McKebabs and McFalafel. Head to Brazil for cheese quiche, the Philippines for McSpaghetti, or to Singapore for burgers that use rice patties instead of the traditional bun.
  42. 1 point
    B/W Photodude

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    There are multiple addresses for her on the original article including her website and her Facebook page (more than one). Others in Australia trying to get similar answers from the conference have been similarly stonewalled.
  43. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    I have obtained a somewhat public e-mail address for Susan Magitias and I have sent her an e-mail requesting more information about her published work. I had hoped to obtain a more private e-mail address, but, I was unable to do so. As there is a 17 hour difference in time, The time where she is located in later than 10:30 at night, and it is likely that she will not read my e-mail for some time. As I did with the Conference representative, I have invited her to come here and read this thread and to directly post her response, if she would like to do so.
  44. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    Oh boy! Just when you thought it couldn't get worse!

    I have received a response from the elected Conference official, to my request for permission to post his response to me in this forum. He has explained he is free to respond to an individual request for information, as he did to me. However, administratively if the request involved publication in any manner, to include the Internet, that response must go through a more formal process of approval, as it will be seen as an official statement of a Conference position. So, on that basis, he has asked that I do not post his response to me, which I will respect. He has stated that I may state in my words, without a direct quotation, the essence of what he said in responding to me. I may do that in a later post, as I have done in this post. He also suggested that I contact Susan Magitias directly and stated that she would welcome my doing so. I responded that I would do so, if he would give me an e-mail contact for her. He also informed me that the Conference is very busy in preparing for a Consitutancy (sp) Meeting in 2-weeks. From that perspective, I do not believe that it is likely that I will be able to obtain, in the near future, an official statement from the Conference in regard to what Susan has written. The bottom line: I will continue to work on this issue and I will keep you informed as to my progress. My next step will be to contact Susan directly, if I can obtain her e-mail address. Again, remember the 17 hour time difference. As it is the Sabbath in Australia, some may not read their e-mail until after teh weekend.
  45. 1 point
    Kevin H

    Everlasting Torment in Hell

    Some of the sources that has helped me in developing my understanding of hell, and helped me to notice this in the Bible and Mrs. White, are of course the religion classes at Atlantic Union College and also applying the writings of the poet - philosopher Eli Siegel to the situation. The most important thing about hell fire is the beauty of Jesus. Our deepest desire is to be like and with him. To love the world as he has loved it. Yes, at the fall we got the sinful nature, or a disposition to think we are for ourselves by making less of the outside world, to esteem ourselves more highly than others, to serve self, to seek the highest place. But unlike what Calvinism teaches, that is not all there is to us. Yes the other part was given to us from God in Genesis 3:15; God put something in us that finds evil not only attractive, but also ugly, there is also enmity between us and the serpent. A longing to be with the one who will crush the serpent's head. Jesus is the fairest of 10,000, the Lilly of the valley, the one more desirable than gold and sweeter than honey. He's the desire of all nations, the desire of ages, the one beloved by women. When Jesus was born the angels did not say that it was great joy for only the honest at heart, it was not great joy for the seekers, but great joy for ALL people. Each and everyone. Even Herod who tried to kill him, was still trying to use all of his evil to try to do what he thought he needed to do to find the world likeable. The traditional understanding of the Judgement: We stand before God with our knees knocking. Our record is reviewed and God either tells us that we are allowed into heaven where we run with joy and relief wiping the sweat off our brow and hoping to get into heaven before God changes his mind. Otherwise we are judged and God says we have to go to hell were we are dragged off screaming and begging for mercy and suffer the physical pain of the fire forever. Now we (and Mrs. White has helped us to see this) that hell fire is the glory and beauty and love of God. Moses was unable to see God's face because it would have consumed him. He was able to only see the back of God. And from just seeing the back of God he shone so bright that he had to wear a veil. When Jesus cleaned out the temple we find that his divinity flashed through humanity and people ran in 2 directions. The money changers were running away from it, and children and the poor were running TO it. How often to you see children running with joy to an angry man with a whip? Yet there was something about Jesus' anger that made the little children and the poor want to run and be with him. That flash of divinity that made the money changers run away and children and poor and ill run towars him was a peek at hell fire. Mrs. White pictures that when Jesus comes and we see him in all his glory It will be so awesome that we all ask "Who shall be able to stand?" There is a moment of awful silence, the angels stop their singing. Then Jesus says [sings?[ "My grace is sufficient for you" Notice Jesus does not say "My grace is sufficient for some of you" He does not say "My grace is sufficient for you and you but not you over there, and it's sufficient for you, no not you I'm talking to the person standing behind you, sorry for the confusion and false hope you held until you realized that I was talking to the person behind you" Jesus tells all of us that his grace is sufficient for me! However Mrs. White points out that despite what Jesus just told me, that the people who hear him give 2 responses. The one group says "Of course his grace is sufficient for me! This is my God and he will save us!" But other people who just heard Jesus tell them that his grace is sufficient for them feel that he's lying, and with the influence of existentialism on our culture they have become slaves to their feelings. They feel that his grace is not sufficient for them and as they see their lives in contrast to his purity they believe that God is going to get them for their sins, they run in terror to the hills and caves and say "Fall on us and hide us from the one who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb." "Wrath of the lamb" Can you picture yourselves hearing a news bulletin "Lamb escapes from the children’s zoo lock your doors and stay inside? The lost have no more need to be afraid of Jesus than they are of a little lamb. However they are terrified like never before and the brightness of his coming consumes them. We have the truth here at the second coming, but then we fall apart and into tradition and superstition at the third coming instead of carrying out what we saw a taste of at the second coming to be in it's full force at the third coming. So at the end of time. Isaiah 33 asks who can live in the eternal fire. The answer is that the righteous live forever in that fire. When prophets first saw God in vision they felt like they were being burned alive. But learned that they could not only survive in that fire but thrive in that fire and hated not to be burning in that fire. Deuteronomy 4:24 reads For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God. We, all of us have 2 attitudes fighting with in us. One is our sinful nature or a disposition to think we are for ourselves by making less of the outside world. To esteem ourselves more highly than others, to serve self, to seek the highest place and often this results in evil surmisings and bitterness of spirit. Fighting disposition this is a gift that God gave us in Genesis 3:15 which is not only a promise of the messiah, but that there is something in us attracted to God and beauty and repulsed by the ugliness of sin. That our deepest desire is to love the world as Jesus has loved it. Then for us his mission is accomplished. We are fitted for heaven for we have heaven in our hearts. Everything we do builds on one of these two attitudes and weakens the other. Yet even at our worst we are trying to manipulate the world into what we think we need to be able to like it better. And even at our best there is a taint of selfishness and thus truly our best is like filthy rags. Thus everything we do has both elements of respect and contempt in it. At the end of time we do what Moses was not at that time ready to do, see God's front (granted there will still be the unapproachable light and deep darkness reminding us that there is more to God then what we are seeing so that we don't commit the sin of idolatry and think we are seeing God in total). But we will see him in love and glory. Jesus is our deepest desire. The one altogether lovely, the one sweeter than honey and more desirable than gold. The one beloved of women (a forgotten Biblical name of Jesus). We are all overwhelmed by his beauty and glory. The righteous find it heaven to be in this situation and we respond to the overwhelming aspect of seeing our filthy rags in contrast to Jesus' holiness by casting our crowns at his feet singing "Holy, Holy Holy, worthy if the lamb!" and at the second coming our sinful nature, or the disposition to think we are for ourselves by making less of the outside world will been burned out of us. To the lost they are in a dilemma. Jesus is their deepest desire. They are overwhelmingly attracted to his beauty. They long to run into his loving arms and give themselves fully over to him. They are welcomed by Jesus who tells them that his grace is sufficient for them. But as they contrast their selfishness to his righteousness they do not sing the song of the redeemed. They are unforgiving people and thus they cannot comprehend forgiveness. They think that sooner or later God is going to get them for their sins. Jesus in John 3:18-21 said that there is only ONE reason why people are lost. And that it because they won't come to the light for fear their deeds will be exposed. For fear that God is going to get them for their sins. (while those who do come to the light find not a condemning God but a welcoming God who changes them). The lost see loved ones around the throne who they long to be reunited with. But they also remember how they would use things like criticizing, complaining, blaming, nagging, threatening, punishing and rewarding to control to make these people do what they wanted them to do. They see how horrible and selfish their interactions with even their loved ones has been. And they see others who they did not love and who they wanted to hurt. And they are horrified especially as they contrast their behavior with the purity and beauty and self-sacrificing love of Jesus. And they know that the one who sits on the throne knows the deepest recesses of their mind and heart and they want to pull away from the source of life. Hitler does not see the final solution from the results of thousands of years of sin and excuses, but sees how these acts were seen through the pure eyes of God. So everyone will see themselves. The redeemed cast their crowns and sing out of gratitude, while the lost want to pull back and hide from the only source of life. Yet Jesus is still their deepest desire. They are in a dilemma. They want to run to Jesus and accept his grace, but they refuse to yield to this desire. It's God's nature to love and forgive and to draw all unto him, but God's love is a power that brings out the best in us. For those who do not want the best in them to be brought out, who are horrified at the ugliness of their sin and don't trust in God's grace but are slaves to their feeling where they feel that God is going to get them so also want to pull back from the one they so long to run to. It is a very uncomfortable position. It is even worst than the traditional Catholic/Baptist hell. Heaven and hell are not two different places. God does not say to some of us we can go into heaven and send the rest to hell. We are wrong when we say that the fire burning forever does not mean forever. "The Glory of him that is love will consume the wicked" When does the glory and beauty and love of God burn out? Never. It's just that some of us will find it to be heaven to burn forever in the fire of God's love and beauty and glory, while others will find it to be hell and consuming and death. God treats each and every one of us the exact same way. Lucifer is treated the same way as Gabriel. Judah is treated the same as Abraham. The only difference between heaven and hell is that one is embracing all of reality with joy and enjoying reality and enjoying their friends and loved ones and have allowed the selfishness to have been burned out of them and to cast our crowns at Jesus feet and sing "Worthy is the lamb" and others are following a sick figment of their imagination that God's grace is not sufficient for them, are slaves to their feelings that God is going to get them for their sins. They become prisoners of their minds where they have created their own morbid heaven of complaining and whining about how unfair everything is only to see that God is indeed fair, and to come up with excuses but see that they have no excuse yet they refuse to leave this state of mind. Hell is locked not with a pad lock but a sliding lock and it's locked from the inside. As they see all their excuses melt but refuse to yield to their desire to run to him they make a compromise. They go on their knees and admit that God is indeed right, but they refuse to go further. This dilemma between wanting to run into his loving arms and have him wipe their tears from their eyes and wanting to be with him like nothing else they have ever been attracted to ever before, yet their refusing to yield to this desire and instead stay in their fear of what God would do to them and their morbid heaven of complaining and whining becomes so intense that it quite literally rips them apart and disintegrates them. God is the great purifier, he does not need some other flame for a clean up job. He is the great consuming and cleansing fire. On the one hand God is completely active in the destruction of the wicked. He is not passively twiddling his thumbs. The event that is so horrible for the lost is seeing God in full beauty and love and glory. If he did not show them this they would not have to suffer hell. On the other hand the lost are completely active in their own destruction since they make a different choice in how to respond than the saved.
  46. 1 point
    GayatfootofCross

    New Jerusalem Population

    Billions n Billions will be there! Experiencing God's love for me has expanded from what man can not number (Rev 7:9) to.. a look at the Hubble Telescope (Gen 22:17) at just a sliver of the black sky! And our country homes/estates can be as large as counties! A world without seas can hold it And numerous Great Lakes can hold tons of aquatic life. God is infinite in love and housing capabilities.
  47. 1 point
    Gregory Matthews

    New Jerusalem Population

    I think that such talk is one reason why Christians are sometimes considered to be fools.
  48. 0 points
    Gustave

    Under Law

    No such thing as sort of or pretty Kosher - its either Levitically compliant or it's not. In this case it was definitely NOT.
  49. 0 points
    Gustave

    Under Law

    Abraham wasn't Kosher and the angels who visited his table evidently weren't either.
  50. 0 points
    stinsonmarri

    Who's fooling who?

    I had surgery that was so simple but she cut one of my organs. A specialist had to repair the organ, but I became very ill almost died. I am a diabetic and I became sepsis and it went to the weakest part, my eye! I had to have antibiotic through the vein that goes through my heart and a nurse had to attend to me daily at home. By the time my eye doctor saw me the pressure in my right eye was so bad, I had to have surgery, but my nerves were damage. I am able to see a little and I see very well from my left eye. I can drive but when I come on here the letters are small again. Something happen again to the large print so it makes it difficult and I still have also the grammar problem so there you have it. I am not sad or upset just I accept it graciously. I still have my health, the only sadness during that time, I could not take care of my mother. My cousin's wife helped us both and she kept my mother, by the time I could get on my feet my mother died. That almost killed me! YAHWEH has brought me through! I am not not like I was but I am still here! There are so many people who are worst off then me! I praise THE MOST HIGH for the mother I had who taught me from a child truth! Now, THE HOLY SPIRIT is leading me and changing me to be like YAHSHUA and that's my desire! Secondly, I know I have a handicap in grammar but I am not going to let it stop me! So if you see things wrong correct it and send it back and ask if this was what I was trying to say and I will appreciate it most kindly! I am not ashamed of my problem, I need to share what I understand and allow THE HOLY SPIRIT to do the rest! So far even with the grammar I think most of you understand what I am trying to present! This is what loving each other is all about! Blessings!
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