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5 hours ago, hch said:

 It time to concern ourselves with salvation issues.

Agreed. Too much time is spent trying to parse out every nuance of Bible prophecy, especially when the tendency is to fit it to current and even regional events.

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B/W Photodude
On 1/8/2019 at 11:18 PM, B/W Photodude said:

Elder Kauble.—I read in the Testimonies that we ought not to teach new doctrines until after counseling with the leading brethren. The question comes, Are we to take our own individual judgment as to what is light?

4 hours ago, hch said:

On the surface this sounds like  great counsel. Unfortunately, in my experience, when I repeatedly tried to put it in practice, most of my fellow believers that I encountered were not interested in studying.

You forgot the "operative" word in the quote by Elder Kauble. He stated counsel with the "leading" brethren. I am not sure if your local interested (or not) study partners qualify. For a very significant new finding, the pattern of Glacier View with Desmond Ford shows a practice more in line with the impressions from the Testimonies.

So, this is what I suggest for you. You have been wrong on prophecy before, so maybe "prophecy" is not your spiritual gift. Perhaps you might go back to the "drawing board" and discover just what your spiritual gift might be. I believe everyone is given spiritual gifts and I believe the Bible and SOP supports the idea that everyone has a gift. There are many resources out there that can assist you is this endeavor. 

https://youth.adventist.org/Resources/Spiritual-Gifts-Assessment

https://www.adventist.org/en/beliefs/church/spiritual-gifts-and-ministries/

4 hours ago, hch said:

My favorite Author states that God has called every SDA to be a watchmen.

The question then becomes, what are we supposed to be watching for as we walk along the walls? The latest little military skirmish begins to pale a bit when you consider the entire scope of the end time events.

FWIW, I find what is going on in American politics to be much more significant even if the details are not covered in Bible prophecy. Many feel the church is about to fall, but others feel the American government is about to fall at times into a socialist state. I do not anticipate that either will occur. To be sure there are many in both scenarios who are very self centered and are looking out for number one and that number one is not Jesus.

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hch
On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 1:30 PM, B/W Photodude said:

Agreed. Too much time is spent trying to parse out every nuance of Bible prophecy, especially when the tendency is to fit it to current and even regional events.

There is an old adage that the devil is in the details. And another point that my favorite author makes is that Satan's work is all the better for him if he can work unseen behind the scenes.

As King Cyrus was revealed by name by Isaiah 175 years before he reigned, about 600 years before Christ, Daniel stated that Michael shall stand for his people. Searching prophecy a little deeper with the intent to have the correct understanding at the correct time indicates to me that "Michael" has a dual meaning. 1) Michael (a counterfeit) that is opposed to Christ will stand for his apostate people, and 2) Michael, who is Christ, will stand for His people. 

The only way to know that Bible prophecy is being correctly understood is to study the details or as you write: " to parse out every nuance of Bible prophecy." The way to ensure personal defeat is to ignore the details, promote traditional understandings that were the best available at the time they were formed, and wait and see. But prophecy is given for a purpose. To Understand the purpose behind God's prophetic revelation I suggest brushing up on Revelation 1. Based on memory,  it goes something like this...the Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave to Him to SHOW His servants things which MUST shortly come to pass...blessed is he that readeth and they that hear….

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Came to the realization of the sequencing this morning from studying Daniel 7:

1) the #IranUSwar starts

2) Donald gets fired (impeached)

3) Michael stands for his people...

4) and at last, Michael will stand for His people.

 

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On 1/12/2019 at 6:11 AM, hch said:

To Understand the purpose behind God's prophetic revelation I suggest brushing up on Revelation 1. Based on memory,  it goes something like this...the Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave to Him to SHOW His servants things which MUST shortly come to pass...blessed is he that readeth and they that hear…. 

And WHEN was that written?  Let him that readeth understand. 
It should be remembered that the promises and threatenings of God are alike conditional.

Had Adventists, after the great disappointment in 1844, held fast their faith, and followed on unitedly in the opening providence of God, receiving the message of the third angel and in the power of the Holy Spirit proclaiming it to the world, they would have seen the salvation of God, the Lord would have wrought mightily with their efforts, the work would have been completed, and Christ would have come ere this to receive His people to their reward. {1SM 68.1}

And no Michael Pence or Donald Trump needed or expected.

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