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Missed Possibilities: 10/15/2019


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I found this article to be very high on the religious rhetoric scale, and short on the intended context that would be found in scripture:

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On the left side the position has generally been that these texts from Paul address specific problems prevalent in certain churches. They are, and never were intended as, global and general prohibitions, valid at all times and everywhere. This follows from a contextualized reading method that takes into consideration the immediate situation that confronted Paul when he wrote, as well as other texts where Paul clearly states that in the Christian Church there should be no difference in status between social classes, ethnic groups, and different genders. The members of the Church are all united as one in Christ; they all belong to the New Testament priesthood of all believers, no exceptions accepted. - from the article

The Bible actually does make very clear distinctions! But none of them are based on perceived "rights;" only on a specific CALLING by/from God. There is no such thing as "rights" in any church ministry. If the person in question is not called by God; they can have all the "equality" or "rights" they want; but that will never buy their spot in the program:

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A lot of people were now becoming followers of the Lord. But some of the ones who spoke Greek started complaining about the ones who spoke Aramaic. They complained that the Greek-speaking widows were not given their share when the food supplies were handed out each day.
The twelve apostles called the whole group of followers together and said, "We should not give up preaching God's message in order to serve at tables.
My friends, choose seven men who are respected and wise and filled with God's Spirit. We will put them in charge of these things. (Acts 6:1-3, CEV).

 

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Don't tell your leaders how unhappy you are with them. That's what some of the people of Israel did. And they were killed by the destroying angel.
Those things happened to them as examples for us. They were written down to warn us who are living at the time when God's work is being completed.
So be careful. When you think you are standing firm, you might fall. (1 Cor 10:10-12, NiRV)

Apparently, we are not learning from our past, at all!

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Blessed Man.in your implication that in the article I cited some individuals had been called a Communist you have born false witness.   In that article no person has been called a Communist.

Read my quote below:

Rather, based upon earlier statements in the article a comparison was made with Democratic Centralism as understood in Communist practice.  It did not even say that they were exactly the same.  It only suggested that they were similar in some respects,

 

Leaders may claim this giant on clay feet to be democratic and representative. That claim is a mirage of El Dorado, and a far cry from reality. It is a system that is strikingly similar to the Communist idea of Democratic Centralism, invented by Lenin and practiced in all Communist regimes. Like it or not – check the meaning/definition of that term.

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Blessed Man, the following is a definition of Democratic Centralism.  You will note that o 60% majority was required  GC votes today only require a vote to pass by one vote.

 

Democratic centralism is a Leninist democratic practice in which political decisions reached by voting processes are binding upon all members of the party.

In party meetings, a motion (new policy or amendment, goal, plan or any other kind of political question) is proposed. After a period of debate, a vote is taken. If one vote clearly wins (gaining 60% or above share if two options for example) all participants (the party) are expected to follow that decision, and not continue propagandising or otherwise working against it, aiming to act in unity. In the development of socialism in the Soviet Union and China, it was largely taken up in response to dramatic developments and violence which required faster mechanisms of making decisions. A constellation of practices surround this in order to encourage participation and debate, such as Don't Blame the Speaker.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Gregory Matthews said:

Rather, based upon earlier statements in the article a comparison was made with Democratic Centralism as understood in Communist practice.  It did not even say that they were exactly the same.  It only suggested that they were similar in some respects,

"Only Suggested..." eh?

 

Yes Gregory.

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To be similar is not the same as being one.

As an example we (SDAs) have some beliefs and practices that are similar to those of the Roman Catholic Church, but that does not make us Roman Catholic.

 

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