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Some are saying that the solution,

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"to be effective, a new set of institutions would have to be imbued with heavy-handed, transnational, enforcement powers."

Ring any bells?

 

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Already the restraining Spirit of God is being withdrawn from the world. Hurricanes, storms, tempests, fire and flood, disasters by sea and land, follow each other in quick succession. Science seeks to explain all these. The signs thickening around us, telling of the near approach of the Son of God, are attributed to any other than the true cause. People cannot discern the sentinel angels restraining the four winds, that they shall not blow until the servants of God are sealed. But when God shall bid His angels loose the winds, there will be such a scene of strife as no pen can picture. {CTr 316.3}

We are standing on the threshold of great and solemn events. Prophecy is fast fulfilling. The Lord is at the door. There is soon to open before us a period of overwhelming interest to all who are living. The controversies of the past are to be revived. New controversies will arise. The scenes to be enacted in our world are not even dreamed of. Satan is at work through human agencies. {CTr 316.4}

But God’s servants are not to trust to themselves in this great emergency. The program of coming events is in the hands of the Lord. The world is not without a ruler; the Majesty of heaven has the destiny of nations, as well as the concerns of His church, in His own hands. . . . {CTr 316.5}

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The dignitaries of church and state will unite to bribe, persuade, or compel all classes to honor the Sunday. The lack of divine authority will be supplied by oppressive enactments. Political corruption is destroying love of justice and regard for truth; and even in free America, rulers and legislators, in order to secure public favor, will yield to the popular demand for a law enforcing Sunday observance. Liberty of conscience, which has cost so great a sacrifice, will no longer be respected. In the soon-coming conflict we shall see exemplified the prophet's words: "The dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17. {DD 35.4}


Could it be that "climate change" or "climate EMERGENCY" is going to be the vehicle for globalization and compelling of the conscience for "the common good,"  and that in the very near future there will be demands to "keep Sunday" for the "common good?"

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phkrause
6 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

Could it be that "climate change" or "climate EMERGENCY" is going to be the vehicle for globalization and compelling of the conscience for "the common good,"  and that in the very near future there will be demands to "keep Sunday" for the "common good?"

Absolutely!! But that doesn't mean that "climate change" is not true!! In my own lifetime I've seen the weather change. When I was much younger we used to be able to tell pretty much the seasons, when they began and when they ended. Today you can't say that anymore!! In the winter when it snowed, it pretty much stayed all winter, now when it snows, its not there for more than a week or so, and its pretty much melted. I could go on and on, and I'm not a scientist or a weather person, but I can see and feel and I know that the weather or as others like to say "climate change" has been out of wack for many years. The extremes either way are getting way out of control!! I still remember my pastors telling us that leaders will try to do the right things, but for the wrong reasons, or something to that effect! Like going to church, the world is so out of control with evil, we need to get back to the Bible, so lets set up a day and we'll all go to church, etc.!!

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1 hour ago, phkrause said:

Absolutely!! But that doesn't mean that "climate change" is not true!!

I agree, somewhat. 1) yes, some things are happening. 2) some things are not happening. 3) the thing about error, that is, the kind that "would deceive the very elect," is that there is enough truth stirred into the mix, so as to make it very convincing.

IF someone wants to actually talk about the environment, I am all for that, have been for years. And I don't usually post things that directly challenge certain other denominations, but in this case; I decided its time to say something. Its NOT just about "climate" anymore.

I will post some specific, current references, that anyone can verify, independently on their own when I get a chance to come back and post. One doesn't have to be a scientist or a theologian to know this isn't just about "climate" anymore. It hasn't been for many years.

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1 hour ago, phkrause said:

Absolutely!! But that doesn't mean that "climate change" is not true!! In my own lifetime I've seen the weather change. When I was much younger we used to be able to tell pretty much the seasons, when they began and when they ended. Today you can't say that anymore!! In the winter when it snowed, it pretty much stayed all winter, now when it snows, its not there for more than a week or so, and its pretty much melted.

If you are able to watch the video I linked to from the OP, Pastor Bohr does say that climate change is happening. But, as you can guess, Im sure, thats certainly not all thats happening.

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18 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

If you are able to watch the video I linked to from the OP, Pastor Bohr does say that climate change is happening. But, as you can guess, Im sure, thats certainly not all thats happening.

I've seen it before!! I watch many videos from Pastor Bohr. There's not much or even anything that I disagree on with him!

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8thdaypriest
On 11/8/2019 at 11:15 AM, BlessedMan said:

Could it be that "climate change" or "climate EMERGENCY" is going to be the vehicle for globalization and compelling of the conscience for "the common good,"  and that in the very near future there will be demands to "keep Sunday" for the "common good?"

How would that fly with the Muslims, who worship on Friday, and the Jews? 

I personally believe the "global warming" scare to be a scheme of the Evil One, for global redistribution of wealth - really a scheme for takeover of global markets and finance - a massive/gigantic power grab by global elites. 

I have seen articles showing that even if the USA reduced their carbon emissions to zero, it would have no impact whatsoever.  Because China and India have no intention of reducing theirs.  It would just destroy the USA economy - all for nothing!

My own theory is that one day soon a glorious being "will sit in the Temple of God, showing himself that he is God".   [Yes - I believe a third Temple will be built on the Mount at Jerusalem.]  That being will fulfill messianic prophecies for every religion.  And for the atheists, he will be a magnificent alien returned to save the planet.  He will demand that "every nation, kindred, tongue and people" "worship Him".  (To worship means to serve.)   He will demand that everyone take his "mark" in order to buy or sell.  This would involve a world digital banking system.  Without the "right" number in your hand or forehead,   persons will not be able to access digital "money" to buy or sell.  Penalties for black market selling/buying will be severe.  

The 666 identifier refers to the number assigned to each individual for buying/selling made up of 18 digits (six digits - six digits - six digits).  With such an identifier, the Beast Image/Counterfeit Messiah/Antichrist could identify every person on planet earth.  The identifier number will probably be implanted somehow - as some version of a microchip.

In order to receive "the mark", a person would have to swear allegiance to the messiah figure/little horn.  Same thing is currently employed in Communist China, which "monitors" citizens for loyalty to the government agenda.  The Chinese government has replaced the Ten Commandments in all Christian churches with the sayings of Chairman Mao.   Any non-conformists are sent to re-education camps.  

I could certainly see something like THAT happening in the USA, if Chinese type Communism becomes the order of the day here.  Enacting a Socialist agenda with wealth re-distribution, centralized government controlled health care, etc. etc. brings us one step closer. 

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The sun goes through cycles of greater sun storms/flares - and - fewer storms with less energy production.  The cycles last aprox 30 years. The sun is just at the peak of the current warming, and should be starting to quiet down for next several years. 

We are currently at the peak of warm.   One world global elite powers are using the global warming hysteria as a tool to centralize power. 

Also happening:   Earthquakes are becoming more frequent.  Which means more volcanic eruptions and more steam/smoke/matter erupted into the atmosphere.  This will block sun energy and will have a cooling effect. 

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Video was great.  Couldn't disagree with anything he said.  Connected the dots expertly. 

One other "cause" of disasters - "the prince and power of the air (atmosphere)". 

The Evil One almost totally controls the institutions of learning, and the media.  

The one language of mankind before Babel, has almost been restored through universal computer "language".  We cannot have far to go, until Jesus will return!

I expect that one day soon, the message of truth will be banned from the internet. 

Only one thing remains:  "And when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished."  Daniel 12:7

The "power" of God's people is that power which was bestowed at Pentecost - the power to witness. 

Acts 1:8  "But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." 

When the last witness is imprisoned or dead, (or sent to a re-education camp)  THAT's when it's over. 

 

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JoeMo
On 11/8/2019 at 10:15 AM, BlessedMan said:

Could it be that "climate change" or "climate EMERGENCY" is going to be the vehicle for globalization and compelling of the conscience for "the common good,"  and that in the very near future there will be demands to "keep Sunday" for the "common good?"

IMHO, yes on climate change as the vehicle for globalization; and no for a worldwide (or even national) Sunday law.  Anti-Christianity is on the increase.  Organized Christianity is on the wane.  The new world religion will be a form of poly theism.  As the New Agers say "All paths lead to God".  If we as Christians believe differently, we will be declared inferior.

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59 minutes ago, JoeMo said:

IMHO, yes on climate change as the vehicle for globalization

OK, fair enough. I dont have time to reply much right now, but here is a primer question or two for people to consider:

1) What is the working definition of "globalism?"

2) Is it reasonable to assume that "religion" will not be a part of globalization? If not, or if so, why?

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One of the prophecies of Jesus was written in Luke 21:26 when it said “Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.” While this climate change is not of the magnitude for "hearts failing for fear," it is a prodrome of things to come when you see the various individuals and groups panicking over climate change and the results they see coming. They are more than willing to give up their freedoms to escape the things to come. 

However, various scenarios of serious upheavals in the earth's climate or ability to support the population has been occurring for at least a century. The following is one list compiled to show the various scenarios envisioned thru the years:

Recap of the last 50+ years of climate panic:
1966: Oil gone in ten years
1967: Dire famine forecast by 1975
1968: Overpopulation will spread worldwide
1969: Everyone will disappear in a "Cloud of Blue Steam" by 1989
1970: World will use up all its natural resources by 2000
1970: Urban citizens will require gas masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup will make all land unusable
1970: Decaying pollution will kill all the fish
1970s: Killer bees
1970: Ice age by 2000
1970: America subject to water rationing by 1974 and food rationing by 1980
1971: New ice age coming by 2020 or 2030
1972: New ice age by 2070
1972: Oil depleted in 20 years
1974: Space satellites show new ice age coming fast
1974: Another ice age?
1974: Ozone depletion a "great peril to life"
1976: Scientific consensus planet cooling, famines imminent
1977: Department of energy says oil will peak in 90s
1978: No end in sight to 30-year cooling trend
1980: Acid rain kills life in lakes
1980: Peak oil in 2000
1988: Regional droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC will hit record highs
1988: Maldive Islands will be underwater by 2018 (they're not)
1989: Rising sea levels will obliterate nations if nothing done by 2000
1989: New York City's West Side Highway underwater by 2019 (it's not)
1996: Peak oil in 2020
2000: Children won't know what snow is
2002: Famine in 10 years if we don't give up eating fish, meat, and dairy
2002: Peak oil in 2010
2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024
2005: Manhattan underwater by 2015
2006: Super hurricanes
2008: Arctic will be ice free by 2018
2008: Climate genius Al Gore predicts ice free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate genius Prince Charles says we have 96 months to save world
2009: UK Prime Minister says 50 days to "save the planet from catastrophe
2009: Climate genius Al Gore moves 2013 prediction of ice free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic ice free by 2015
2014: Only 500 days before "climate chaos"
2019: Hey Greta, we need you to convince them it's really going to happen this time

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On 11/7/2019 at 10:14 PM, BlessedMan said:

"to be effective, a new set of institutions would have to be imbued with heavy-handed, transnational, enforcement powers."

 

49 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said:

2019: Hey Greta, we need you to convince them it's really going to happen this time

Apparently, "the science" has once again banded together to colonize people and bruit them into "the global agenda."   They tried it on a smaller scale with "evolution," and now, well its just bigger and better. Your post was well-said. There have been so many "predictions" and "prophecies" regarding the end of the world; one can easily lose track of it all.

There is nothing wrong with recognizing we are damaging the environment, and taking collective steps to rectify that, insofar as we are able. BUT no matter where one chooses to look, or what opinions one would choose to embrace, it all, eventually leads to just one place.  Its certainly, not by any stretch of the imagination, "just about climate."   When one "reads the science," one gets mired in much that actually is not science.

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8 hours ago, 8thdaypriest said:

We are currently at the peak of warm.   One world global elite powers are using the global warming hysteria as a tool to centralize power. 

Yup. That IS where "the science" leads.

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8 hours ago, 8thdaypriest said:

How would that fly with the Muslims, who worship on Friday, and the Jews? 

Its not going to matter what ANYONE thinks, once  "the rubber hits the road."

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14 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

There is nothing wrong with recognizing we are damaging the environment, and taking collective steps to rectify that, insofar as we are able. 

To be sure, the environment is being damaged, but I do not think global warming is one of the problems.

Clean drinking water is almost not available. In my part of the country, our water company sends out quarterly notices detailing where they have FAILED government guidelines. The last report suggested immunocompromised individuals not drink the water. I used to be a tap water person and thought buying drinking water was ridiculous. Now, I only drink bottled water and some spring water.

Also, there is a plastic "island" in the Pacific between California and Hawaii. All the plastic being dumped in the Pacific gets drawn into this vortex created by ocean currents. I believe I recently read of some who are actually going out in ships and "harvesting" this plastic. The size of this "island" is said to be on the order of the size of Texas!

Glitter. That is becoming a serious issue apart from being plastic. Probably everyone has glitter residue in their bodies. It is everywhere.

You can go on and on regarding damage to the environment. The reality is, this earth cannot sustain the amount of people living on it. Hence, population control. Even more worrisome is the thought of reducing the number of people living on the earth by other means. There is a monument in the State of Georgia (USA) dedicated to bring the population down to 500,000,000. I don't see a lot of volunteers signing up to help achieve this goal.

But what is of interest related to the global warming is first the use of this "crisis" to gain control of the population. Churchhill is said to said "never let a crisis go to waste." More recently, this was attributed to Rahm Emmanuel in the Obama administration. Lefties are mastering the art of using a crisis to institute more controls on the population.

One thing that is sad is the exploitation of a teenager from Sweden to push this agenda. Poor Greta, who also is said to have Asperger's syndrome, actually believes her childhood has been destroyed. 

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Second is the significance of this hysteria over climate change. People do not really want to repent and be saved, but somehow they will figure out how to save themselves without repenting. You could argue that the population in general senses the coming end of the age and like the Tower of Babel builders the wicked will try to "outrun" the impending disaster. Some even envision leaving this earth for another planet. I feel confident on this sensing of the end of the age because it is hard to talk to someone and find out they do not agree with "something big" coming.

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there are definitely similar problems here in Canada with drinking water - especially with our First Nations people, which I touched on in another topic here on the forum. And THAT has nothing to do with "climate change," and THE SCIENCE informs us about that by recognizing that it is caused by white-privileged capitolism entities running chemical plants and other industries, basically on the door steps of our First Nations reserves, Think Grassy Narrows, amongst many others. Now, there are articles in the news, about our tap water. Again, nothing to do with climate change. Its BIG Industry poisoning the land/water.  The drinking water is something we could remedy, IF we chose to; but all we get told is to huddle in fear, and "listen to the science" that so adroitly ignores real, not potential problems that we actually can do something about.

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Just now, BlessedMan said:

running chemical plants and other industries, basically on the door steps of our First Nations reserves,

and why would they be doing this? because to them "Indians are expendable," and they know that if they were to do the same to our "white cities" they would be shut down right away.

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JoeMo
2 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

Again, nothing to do with climate change. Its BIG Industry poisoning the land/water.

Allegedly, BIG Industry like fossil fuel burning power plants and transportation that is belching out all these harmful gases; and burning of forests to create agricultural space is a large cause of climate change - allegedly.

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JoeMo
23 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

1) What is the working definition of "globalism?"

According to Webster, globalism is defined as "a national policy of treating the whole world as a proper sphere for political influence".   I'm good with that; but IMHO (based on scripture and EGW) religion will be part of it.  No religion (atheism) is itself a religion.

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Thinking about it even from a non-scriptural viewpoint, one can't help but come to the conclusion that some sort of extinction event will eventually occur.  The population can't keep growing forever while arable land keeps diminishing.  We can't keep mining the earth for minerals, water, and fossil fuel forever, it will eventually run out.  With the increasing population density - especially in large cities - coupled with global transportation, eventually some pandemic could wipe out large populations.  Eventually, some idiot will start a nuclear war.

About every 10,000 to 20,000 years, an extinction event - like a big meteor strike or huge volcanic eruption or massive earthquake kills off LOTS of people.  With or without God, it's only a matter of time.  I rather like the idea of a loving God telling us all about it in advance and promising to save his elect, though.

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1 hour ago, JoeMo said:

Allegedly, BIG Industry like fossil fuel burning power plants and transportation that is belching out all these harmful gases; and burning of forests to create agricultural space is a large cause of climate change - allegedly.

definitely agree with most of your posts on this. Although I dont question that large-scale clearing of lands is damaging "the environment;" I have many questions about how that gets translated into  "climate change."  I believe it is possible the "the science" has nothing wrong with it, in and of itself, but I have serious doubts about what we are being told it means. If one were to look at "the experts" in connection with the IPPC  machine of The UN, many are just economists, politicians, etc. There are a lot of "entities" running with this agenda that have nothing to do with "science."

51 minutes ago, JoeMo said:

I rather like the idea of a loving God telling us all about it in advance and promising to save his elect, though.

amen!

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On 11/7/2019 at 11:31 PM, BlessedMan said:

We are standing on the threshold of great and solemn events. Prophecy is fast fulfilling. The Lord is at the door. There is soon to open before us a period of overwhelming interest to all who are living. The controversies of the past are to be revived. New controversies will arise. The scenes to be enacted in our world are not even dreamed of. Satan is at work through human agencies. {CTr 316.4}

 

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On 11/11/2019 at 11:20 AM, 8thdaypriest said:

I personally believe the "global warming" scare to be a scheme of the Evil One, for global redistribution of wealth - really a scheme for takeover of global markets and finance - a massive/gigantic power grab by global elites. 

definitely!!

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