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Gregory Matthews  3 hours ago

Thank you for republishing this article. This 15 year old article has as much a message for us today as it did in 2005. Today we have moved beyond where we were in 1965. But, it challenges us with the question: To what extent are we today where God would want us to be as to social issue of justice and right?

Sadly our congregations may not welcome those who do not look exactly like their members. This may be more than race and skin color. Our lack of welcome may involve the ways others dress, their political views, the music that they enjoy, and more. I am reminded of a struggling SDA congregation that drove a newly baptized member away by addressing her, to her face, and behind her back, with the title: The Little Heathen.

The congregational mission that God has given us today is to welcome into our fellowship those from the community at large who are on a spiritual journey. When we fail to welcome such, God will use others to accomplish what God wants done, even if those whom God uses are not as doctrinally advanced as we may think that we are.

 

 

 

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On 9/4/2020 at 11:40 AM, Gregory Matthews said:

Sadly our congregations may not welcome those who do not look exactly like their members. This may be more than race and skin color.

That is true but your topic is on racism! If you notice that not many here on the forum have come and commented. Adventist have a problem with systematic racism. Many voted for Trump knowing his character. But, I say this clear and loudly that what's truly in your mind will come out in the light. Many SDA have had a problem with racism that is why most of our them in a America are separated between Black and White conferences. I have seen churches in the Georgia Cumberland Conference start leaving when the West Indians or Afrikan move into the area and go to their churches. It is sad but is true. You tried to bring up the thought on racism and two people have commented. Sad!

Blessings!

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14 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

Adventist have a problem with systematic racism.

I think all people have a problem with systemic racism.  I define systemic racism as an internal opinion that your ethnic group is superior to any other ethnic group.  The country can make all the laws they want; and most people can control their external behavior to a great extent.  I also believe that some mistake cultural ignorance for racism.  Take the word "picnic" for example.  Most Caucasians growing up anyplace but the south have no clue about the origins of this word.

Anyways, there is no way the government or denomination can totally eliminate systemic racism which lives inside people; but not necessarily on the outside.

I also don't think what some people consider racism is real.  For example, I have heard it said that all old white men are racist.  That's BS.  Also, concerning black vs. white conferences.  My wife and I wander around SDA churches here.  Most of the Black people at the Black conference churches that I have met are happy (at least okay) with it.  African American churches are definitely more enthusiastic and participatory than most white churches here.  One's not more correct than the other; it's just different - in a good way.

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18 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

This may be more than race and skin color.

Well as I predicted, look what happen in North Carolina! Pepper spraying a group of voters that were diverse  and a helpless woman in a wheelchair also, children! There nothing more dramatic than racism and it is time that the speak out about it on this forum, please do not dismiss it! My heart is heavy because hatred is a sin and many on this forum have demonstrated this injustice. Racism is when one party tries everything it can to suppress the vote, why? What are you afraid of voting should be the right of every citizen. Stacking the courts to take away people's health care, especially in a pandemic is sinful and shameful. Accusing peaceful marches of diverse color with children is outrages! Surrounding your opponent bus and almost running a car with the bus off the road shows no relationship with THE MOST HIGH! THE ALMIGHTY ONES sees it all and the messengers of Heaven is taking note. People who are united of all color, nation and people will not be imitated any longer! We will stand with truth and justice on our side so that the truth of THE MOST WORD will be finish and HIS SON will come. Hatred, violence and mistreatment will never win over truth and justice!::xx:: 

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5 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

Well as I predicted, look what happen in North Carolina! Pepper spraying a group of voters that were diverse  and a helpless woman in a wheelchair also, children! There nothing more dramatic than racism and it is time that the speak out about it on this forum, please do not dismiss it! 

2 hours ago, JoeMo said:

 

I'm sorry to see that.

During the Minneapolis riots, a woman in a wheelchair was sprayed with an fire extinguisher by the rioters. But I guess that was OK because Black Lives Matter. And it wasn't racism either.

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23 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

Many voted for Trump knowing his character. But, I say this clear and loudly that what's truly in your mind will come out in the light. Many SDA have had a problem with racism that is why most of our them in a America are separated between Black and White conferences.

You keep throwing stuff up like mud on the side of a barn hoping it will stick. You continually accuse the President of racism and yet you have never listed one thing that he did that was racist and ignore everything he has done for the black community.

Spreading these kind of stories that are less than the truth is a character issue.

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18 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

Pepper spraying a group of voters that were diverse  and a helpless woman in a wheelchair also, children!

Even the CNN article I read said no one was sprayed in the face.  In fact, the pictures I saw showed police spraying the ground in front of the protesters.  The cops weren't even wearing any protective gear, which they would have been wearing if they were spraying pepper spray into the air at people.  It seems like the protesters were blocking traffic.  This was according to CNN - an anti-Trump liberal propaganda machine.

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12 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

I think I know where you are going with this, but it has been debunked.

This origin of the word picnic has been described to me by several African American friends; not a Caucasian news service.  I don't have it on some authority on black history; just African American friends who have no reason to deceive me.  Could be true; could be African American urban legend.

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On 11/2/2020 at 10:21 AM, JoeMo said:

Even the CNN article I read said no one was sprayed in the face.  In fact, the pictures I saw showed police spraying the ground in front of the protesters.  The cops weren't even wearing any protective gear, which they would have been wearing if they were spraying pepper spray into the air at people.  It seems like the protesters were blocking traffic.  This was according to CNN - an anti-Trump liberal propaganda machine.

Joe: I don't just watch CNN a lot. I watch other news media including Fox. What I said was true. Just watch the video do judge by the cover.

On 11/1/2020 at 10:05 PM, B/W Photodude said:

Photodue this is nonsense and only you would come up with this! You have never heard me or anyone on this forum mention this. It is where you mind it at just like your leader you worship. You throw out anything to see if it stick to divide. This is a shame. Like I said a lie does not matter who tell its. That's go through skin color and hits at hatred and sin. Many unfounded Black hates also and I don't take up for them either. Whoever tells something that is not the truth is allowing Satan to use them, period!

 

On 11/1/2020 at 9:45 PM, B/W Photodude said:

You keep throwing stuff up like mud on the side of a barn hoping it will stick. You continually accuse the President of racism and yet you have never listed one thing that he did that was racist and ignore everything he has done for the black community.

Spreading these kind of stories that are less than the truth is a character issue.

Its mud to you because you and your leader are losing. No matter what the Republican legislatures of each the states that Biden is winning, they cannot stop the MAIL IN VOTE! It was all a rue to send out these ridiculous charges that the courts have thrown out!

You know, I cannot believe that so many people who claim they love the truth and YAHWEH, has become total opposite of THE LIFE of YAHSHUA when HE was on the earth. It is beyond me to see the Republican Party accept this QAnon! 

QAnon has become the most potent force in American politics that most Americans have never heard of. In a few short years, QAnon-associated accounts have metastasized on Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok at an unprecedented rate. The pandemic has further fueled its growth, uniting anti-vaxxers and COVID deniers with the Sandy Hook skeptics already part of QAnon’s growing coalition. That coalition apparently also includes everyone from Roseanne to porn queen Jenna Jameson to former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn. (The general, a QAnon icon, recently released a video of himself and his family earnestly reciting the QAnon pledge.).

The basic premise of QAnon is this: “Q” is a top government insider close to the president who has proof that global elites secretly enslave and torture children and extract from their blood what they believe is a life-extending chemical named Adrenochrome. Q’s targets range from Democratic politicians like the Clintons, Adam Schiff, and the Obamas to globalist moguls like Bill Clinton and George Soros to celebrities like Tom Hanks and Chrissy Teigen. Trump and his military allies are working secretly to unmask all these evildoers and make sure that they are carted off to Guantánamo and hanged for their crimes. The enemies of QAnon are, in nearly every case, enemies of Trump, which experts say is no coincidence. “At the end of the day, this conspiracy theory is targeting the Democratic establishment,” says Cristina López G.

The group’s followers also include some mentally unbalanced people who have latched onto the QAnon ideology with a fervor that has broken into real life in dangerous ways. Defense lawyers for the man charged in the murder of the underboss of the Gambino crime family in New York City, say their client is obsessed with conspiracy theories and believed the mobster was a member of the “deep state.” (The same man had previously attempted to make citizen’s arrests of Schiff and Congresswoman Maxine Waters.) The landscaper arrested for igniting the 2018 wildfire that burned nearly 20,000 acres of Orange County and destroyed a dozen homes had posted dozens of conspiracy videos on his Facebook page, including some about a satanic cult that ruled the world and a mysterious U.S. intelligence insider who is working with Donald Trump to thwart it. A QAnon believer and self-identified member of the alt-right Proud Boys in Seattle killed his brother in January by stabbing him in the head with a four-foot-long sword, later claiming he thought his brother was a lizard. In June of last year, an armed man inspired by a QAnon post barricaded himself in an armed vehicle and blocked traffic on the Hoover Dam bridge for hours. He was demanding the Justice Department release a (nonexistent) secret report on Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server that a QAnon influencer had claimed was being stashed at the dam. Los Angeles Magazine

This party think Trump is god and you know they are right. I do not believe in that word. If you trace it points back to Zeus and then to Satan. YAHWEH said very clearly HIS people will know HIM by HIS NAME! That is and always be YAHWEH and HIS SON said that HE came in HIS FATHER'S NAME!

I am come in MY FATHER'S NAME, and ye receive ME not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 5:43  

That is exactly what happen and if you truly love YAHWEH, you can see it. Trump was not a builder. He sold his name, that was his brand. He wanted to be worship as a god. He like Satan don't care about no one but themselves. Trump others to do his bidding and to worship him. We here in this world saw what took place in Heaven with Lucifer.

 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon The Holy Mountain of ELOHIYM; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Eze 28:14

 How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer (Helel), son of the morning how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations. For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into Heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars (messengers/angels) of EL: I will sit also upon The Mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like THE MOST HIGH. Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol (grave), to the depths of the pit (prison or dungeon).Isa 14:12-15  

Both Satan and Trump throw messengers or people under the bus. Satan was not going to be kicked alone so he pointed his sympathizers who now will die with him. Guess what they were thrown in prison first, and can only be release under the permission of YAHWEH! YAHSHUA also sent the legion who begged not to return to prison but to go into the pigs. The pigs could not stand the torture and killed themselves. They still had to return to prison. Trump has done the same thing, but it the WILL of YAHWEH to let all who defy HIS NAME to fall! 

Trump is going to do the same thing. He is going to throw all the Senators who are now moving away from him under the bus. He want fire the FBI Director after the election because he stood up against the p boys and other white supremacist terrorists. Like the two who came from Virginia to Pennsylvania with guns believer in QAnon! Well Trump has fallen and Biden/Harris has won. Time to finish the work of YAHWEH!

PRAISE THE MOST HIGH!:peaceout:

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48 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said:

Photodue this is nonsense and only you would come up with this! You have never heard me or anyone on this forum mention this.

Its mud to you because you and your leader are losing. No matter what the Republican legislatures of each the states that Biden is winning, ... 

Tired of your hate speech ...

https://www.tiktok.com/@nerocabrera/video/6865466326207433990?lang=en

And no photos are due, ... it's "Photodude"

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4 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said:

Nope, won't work: TICK TOK the Time has come for your evil man to leave. Hatred has been defeated Photodue and he soon will go jail for being such a liar, supreme racist, adulter, hanging with Epstein ( I truly think he had him killed he knew too much on him), taking children away from their mothers and caging them. How on earth can you talk about abortions and kill babies who are alive!, not paying taxes, a traitor to his country, stealing from the taxpayers and most of he loves it when you do his bidding and hates you when you stop! Watch him for the next month in half he is going on a terror! Sinful mad men does that you know!

Love Lifted you up!:love:

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26 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said:

Nope, won't work: TICK TOCK the Time has come for your evil man to leave. Hatred has been defeated, Photodue and he soon will go to jail for being such a liar, supreme racist, adulter, hanging with Epstein ( I truly think he had him killed he knew too much on him), taking children away from their mothers and caging them. How on earth can you talk about abortions and kill babies who are alive!, not paying taxes, a traitor to his country, stealing from the taxpayers and most of he loves it when you do his bidding and hates you when you stop! Watch him for the next month in half he is going on a terror! Sinful mad men does that you know!

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Love Lifts you up!:love:

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1 hour ago, B/W Photodude said:

Tired of your hate speech ...

https://www.tiktok.com/@nerocabrera/video/6865466326207433990?lang=en

And no photos are due, ... it's "Photodude"

you know what I mean photodude, because I misspelled it! Really are you  that far gone over a misspelling of your name, really! Well I guess you would since your leader is done!:bonana:

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On 11/8/2020 at 12:26 PM, B/W Photodude said:

 

 

:: crickets ::

Great, I rather hear the crickets at night. YAHWEH made them. You are silent because you know I am telling the truth. He just fired the acting Secretary of the Defense Department. Then he said he is going to run in 2024 so that mean, he knows he has lost. 2024, he will be broke and in jail. New York is not playing. I don't think he can pardon himself. I going to read up on it. But he is in BIG TROUBLE! My prayer is for you that you and I can move on. We are both trying to make it into the Kingdom!

Peace!::xx::

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On 11/7/2020 at 3:42 PM, stinsonmarri said:

Nope, won't work: TICK TOK the Time has come for your evil man to leave. Hatred has been defeated Photodue and he soon will go jail for being such a liar, supreme racist, adulter, hanging with Epstein ( I truly think he had him killed he knew too much on him), taking children away from their mothers and caging them. How on earth can you talk about abortions and kill babies who are alive!, not paying taxes, a traitor to his country, stealing from the taxpayers and most of he loves it when you do his bidding and hates you when you stop! Watch him for the next month in half he is going on a terror! Sinful mad men does that you know!

Love Lifted you up!:love:

This message is a study in contradictions.  You spew all this hatred and condemnation at the sitting President; and then talk about love.  Do you look at Donald Trump through the merciful eyes of Christ of through the prejudiced eyes of liberal hypocrisy?

My sister sent me a message by a liberal Methodist preacher talking about how we should put the election behind us as the Democrat hypocrites - the ones who rioted and burned down the business of their own people have now extended the hand of peace and fellowship to the Republicans; and that we should embrace it with love and unity with no hard feelings; and a couple hours later she tells me about what a putrid piece of sh!t Trump is. Typical liberal Democrat hypocrisy.

Biden has shown himself NOT to be mentally or emotionally fit to be President.  I predict that by the end of 2021 Kamala Harris will become President because Biden will be removed via the 25th Amendment.  The US has sold itself out to globalism and the coming global antichrist religion. Sadly, we are going to get what we have asked for.  Come soon Jesus.

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Nothing wrong with Biden's mentality. If you'd listen to his speeches, you would know. You're just talking smack. and how you can think that God would be favorable to trump, I still don't get.  He spews hate, all the time.

 

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2 hours ago, Theophilus said:

Nothing wrong with Biden's mentality. If you'd listen to his speeches, you would know.

Turn off his teleprompter and he is in deep trouble during his speech. I have watch some of his speeches and watched him seriously mess up whatever he was trying to say.

As far as his mentality, don't forget that he had major brain surgery which partially derailed his presidential aspirations back in '88 (I believe plagerism was the other issue that dogged him). He does has serious word finding difficulties from time to time. 

2 hours ago, Theophilus said:

and how you can think that God would be favorable to trump, I still don't get.  He spews hate, all the time.

Again, I challenge you Trump haters to state specifically where and when the President has spewed hate. When you make this claim without evidence then you become a liar. There is far more proof regarding Biden's racism and that is easily documented. But keep throwing the hate and racism charges against the side of the barn and see if it won't stick. Some may believe it, but "No matter how big a hammer you use, you can't pound common sense into stupid people."

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3 hours ago, Theophilus said:

Nothing wrong with Biden's mentality. If you'd listen to his speeches, you would know. You're just talking smack. and how you can think that God would be favorable to trump, I still don't get.  He spews hate, all the time.

Exactly!! I agree with you 100%

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10 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

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Photodude: This is for you and Joe! This is a sin and a shame if these votes are fraud then that includes the senators too. You know when a evil person spill lies, it is to those who want to believe a lie! People do not want peace, and these are those are in the CHURCH!

The Canaanites left YAHWEH to worship Baal. Israel king Ahab married a Canaanite priestess she was from Phoenicia. Jezebel had all the priests against one man Elijah and they tried their best to lite a fire on their false deity's altar.

The same with Trump and it is so sad that you two refuse to see him for what he is. I want you to make it in the Kingdom, do I hate the remarks you make. YES! But not you personally! I pray for you and Photodude, Joe! I do get upset especially with Photodude because he does things that are not right! You and I were close friends on this forum until Trump came. You stated yourself, you did not like some of the things he was doing. However, if you accept any part of sin it eventually pulls you down. You have change! I am sad! I will not dismiss the injustice and the lies invented by Trump. I will not dismiss his evil ways and how those in the White House pamper to his whims. Biden won fairly and all knows it but those who refuse is blinded. Look how the two R Senators in Georgia turned on the Secretary who is a R too! White Supremacist has come out to those who claim to love THE MOST HIGH! Impossible! You can't pretend but it showed when I saw Joe, the letters of words people of YAHWEH DO NOT USE!

Finally, I am going to tell you the truth. I also going to pray for you and Photodude and hope you both will change and make it in the Kingdom! I pray also for myself and ask THE FATHER to keep me through the nasty things that you PHOTODUDE DO and SAY on this forum that just is not right. I going to stand and let you know it is wrong and is not the truth. Truth will conquer a lie! A lie is an abomination unto THE MOST HIGH!

 Lying lips are an abomination to YAHWEH,  but those who do the truth are HIS  delight. Proverb 12:22

I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Rev 2:2  

  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev 21:8

That is what Trump is and those who follow him will act just like him!

Prayer is Needed!:prayer:

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Stinsonmarri, I am just really curious. 

Do you abhor all dishonesty/lies ?  Biden has proven himself to be a liar for decades. He has told some whoppers. Beginning with the tragic death of his first wife and baby daughter. To gain more sympathy he claimed the truck driver was drunk. When in fact his wife was at fault and the truck driver was not drunk. That is really tacky. His dishonesty during his first run for the presidency caused him to withdraw from the race.  From claiming to be coal miner, civil rights activist, being shot at in Irag, knowing where Bin Laden was and on and on. All lies.

Is this something you consider a serious character flaw in Biden and, Lying lips are an abomination to YAHWEH? 

Or just when it concerns Trump? To my knowledge Biden has never admitted to lying. It is always a mistake but never blatant dishonesty. You have made it very plain what you think of Trump, what do you think of the blatant, provable long standing dishonesty of Biden? I follow discussions here from time to time and don't believe I have ever read your thoughts on the dishonesty of Biden

Bonnie

 

 

 

 

 

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