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Shane

I saw Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee on FOXNews this morning and she was wearing a very nice pearl necklace with matching ear-rings. I know Congressman Roscoe Bartlett shows up on Hope TV and 3ABN every now and again as he speaks Adventist events. Both Barlett and Jackson Lee are members of the Adventist church but I have never seen her that much.

Is it just me or could her jewelry have something to do with that?

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Shane

Is that a question?

Perhaps there is no issue to discuss. Has anyone here ever seen Sheila Jackson Lee at an Adventist campmeeting or speaking to a group of Adventists in any setting? Her Congressional website clearly indicates she is a member of the Seventh-day Adventist church.

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Neil D

I have to ask, in the context of your last 2 consective posts, Shane, are you asking for gossip on this congress woman?

Here you start by observing her jewelry, and now the last post is asking about whether she attends the SDA church or not....

Concidering your stance on gossiping, what are we, who read your posts, left to wonder?

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Shane

Thank you for giving the opportunity to clear up what clearly could be misunderstood.

Based on her Congressional website, I am assuming she does attend an Adventist church and is in good standing. I don't see anything wrong with the use of jewelry so certainly I would not hold that against her. So I am not questioning if she is a good Adventist in any way.

What I am questioning is the denomination's treatment of her. Does the denomination invite her to speak before groups of Adventists? Does the denomination embrace her as a high-profile Adventist?

I haven't a clue as to the answer of those questions. May be she has been at various Adventist events that I am unaware of. Maybe she has turned down invitations to speak at such events. Maybe she is being snubbed by the church for some of her political postitions - maybe for other reasons. I don't know.

What I am seeking to discuss is the church's treatment of its members. Now some may consider that to be gossip. I can see how that is kind of a gray area.

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Kountzer

I belong to the church she attends. I see her there quite often. I have also seen her speak several times at SDA functions, like campmeetings, sometimes at church, and at other places.

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Shane

I have read her resume and to say it is impressive is an understatement. Does this church belong to a regional conference or the Texas conference? I am curious because I watch a lot of Adventist TV and have not seen her. I am glad to hear she is active among us and not just a casual member.

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Kountzer

It belongs to the SW region conference, which like the Tx conf. is under the SW union.

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Shane

I am sure she has a lot she can contribute but with her Congressional obligations she is somewhat limitted. It is inspiring to me to see people like her and Roscoe Bartlett in high positions in the government. I have seen Roscoe Bartlett on stage at some crusades but have not seen Sheila Jackson Lee yet. I would hope it is just bad timing on my part and not because the denomination is letting something as superficial as jewelry influence them.

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Kountzer

There's a lot I could say on this topic. I find it ironic that a lot of the mega churches in Houston would probably love to claim the congresswoman as a member. Yet she is a member of a relatively unknown church and church denomination. I think that speaks positively about her core values and what she believes and values.

As for her not speaking more at adventist functions, well, she is a very busy person.

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Naomi

I did hear her speak and I think it was in Texas at a retreat ... just don't remember for sure when or where.

As for her wearing pearls or whatever, how many times have you been greeted at the door by a greeter in one of our churches, or a lady passing the collection plate, wearing jewelry? As for myself, I know of quite a few times and places when that happened.

Thakfully there is only one judge.

Naomi

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Shane

I often see jewlery in the local church but rarely see it in our publications or broadcasts. That tells me a lot of our female members are using it and either taking it off for official church reasons or not being selected to participate in the part of the church.

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Naomi

I often see jewlery in the local church but rarely see it in our publications or broadcasts. That tells me a lot of our female members are using it and either taking it off for official church reasons or not being selected to participate in the part of the church.

I really do think we at C/A have beat this issue to death way too many times, If a woman or man wants to wear jewelry, there are many things to consider. While you are sure that you and God agree that it's ok, but you know it would be offensive to your church. What is the right thing to do?

I submit to you that we are all aware that there are individuals and church groups which are so conservative that it could actually cause serious divisions within the church and its members. Why not in the interest of showing respect and concern for others avoid the possible dissention ... fall-out? You know, when in Rome, do as the Romans.

Ok, perhaps that could be misconstrued as hypercritical ... whatever! Sometimes we just have to do what is in the best interest of the greater number.

Whether a lot of as you say,

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ladies female members are using it and either taking it off for official church reasons or not being selected to participate in the part of the church
and men also wear it ... really has little to do with my eternal life.

Anything which can cause a possible serious problem within the church (and I've seen it happen over jewelry) is something the offending person and their judge will have to deal with. To cause another(s) to stumble and fall away is not going to be easy to justify to God.

:) Good day

Naomi

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Shane

There is more than one issue at discussion.

1. Is wearing jewelry wrong? I agree we have beat that issue to death. Perhaps we should go over it again in a couple years when we have a group of new members.

2. Should we be judgmental of others that wear jewelry because they believe it is acceptable? We have touched on that issue.

3. Should the church allow those that wear jewelry to hold positions in the church (deacon, elder, Sabbath school teacher, etc.)? We have barely scraped the surface of that issue.

My wife and I avoid wearing jewelry to church in consideration of the weak brothers and sisters there that struggle with judgmentalism.

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nuff sed

I, for one, am glad that they do not parade this Congresswoman all over the US at Campmeetings. IMO Adventists have traditionally "hero worshipped" too many people who were in "the public eye" . I remember a couple of actresses and actors wo were at all the campmeetings. I doubt than any of them are still in the church. Regards, Gladussee

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Guest Jim

Shane, I dont know why you felt you had to capitulate to these people who advocate the wearing of jewelry. We have solid counsel from God about this issue. Listen-

"Self-denial in dress is a part of our Christian duty. To dress plainly, abstaining from display of jewelry and ornaments of every kind is in keeping with our faith. Are we of the number who see the folly of worldlings in indulging in extravagance of dress as well as in love of amusements? If so, we should be of that class who shun everything that gives sanction to this spirit which takes possession of the minds and hearts of those who live for this world only, and who have no thought or care for the next."3 Testimonies, 366.

"Christians are not to decorate the person with costly array or expensive ornaments." Evangelism, 269.

"Conformity to the world is a sin which is sapping the spirituality of our people, and seriously interfering with their usefulness. It is idle to proclaim the warning message to the world, while we deny it in the transactions of daily life." Review, March 28, 1882; Evangelism, 271-172.

"Cleanse the fountain, and the streams will be pure. If the heart is right, your words, your dress, your acts, will all be right." 1 Testimonies, 158.

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Guest Jim

All Hail Queen Sheila!

January 12, 2018 ChurchMouse

Oh, ‘ello there mates.  The Mouse is in the House, and in a mood to grouse.  And to rhyme—little-known fact: I’m descended from mice that lived in the Globe Theatre. 

I ken many of you have already heard the story summarized in the following doggerel.  If not, fear not; I will tell it in prose below the poem.  So, with apologies to Clement Clarke Moore, here goes:

 

‘twas the night before Christmas, when all through the church,

not a creature was stirring, save me on my perch. 

I fired up my ipad, dialed up Daily Mail,

Expecting to read of Yuletide and Wassail,

 

When what to my wondering eyes should appear,

But a story from Texas of a flier most queer.

The issue it seems was an overbooked flight,

And a parliamentarian’s entitled spite.

 

This woman of Congress demanded a spot,

that a mere citizen had already bought.

‘twas the ultimate berth in the first-class section;

Should Sheila not get it, beware the invection.

 

To defy Queen Sheila, the airline well knew,

Would condemn them to charges of racism, too.

So they did what they had to, perhaps with regret,

And assigned Jean-Marie to a steerage couchette.

 

At the back of the plane (Jean-Marie’s new position),

Her neighbor, she learned, was one more politician.

“Do you know what happened, and who stole your seat?

Why ‘twas Sheila Jackson Lee, a notorious cheat.”

 

“She’s up to old tricks, you’re at least number four,

I’ve witnessed her unseat three travelers before.

Don’t blame it on Texas, we’re not all like her,

Merry Christmas! Think Gold, Frankincense, and Myrrh.”

 

So I turned off my tablet, some wiser but sad,

And spied through the window a jolly grandad,

Above the sleigh-noise I heard, wafting, his dictum, 

“stay clear of Queen Sheila, the perpetual victim.”

 

Last December 18, Jean-Marie Simon was about to board a flight from Houston to Washington D.C., the final leg of her journey home from Guatamala, when the gate attendant told her that her ticket was not in the system.  She was told the first-class seat she had purchased, 1A, had been taken by another passenger.  The gate attendant re-ticketed her to Economy Class and gave her a $500.00 voucher toward a future purchase.

As she boarded the plane, Simon did not recognize the middle aged black woman sitting in seat 1A.  Only when she got to her seat in economy and told her story (with exhibits) to the man in the seat beside her did she learn the woman’s identity: Texas Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee (who turns 68 today, January 12, 2018—happy birthday, Sheila).  Simon later wrote:

“I was the last passenger on the plane. A Texas congressman, a nice guy, [was seated] next to me. He said he was glad I had made it on the flight. I showed him my boarding pass with my seat, 1A, printed on it. He said, ‘You know what happened, right?  Do you know who’s in your seat?’ I said no.  He told me that it was Sheila Jackson Lee, a fellow [U.S. Representative] who regularly does this, that this was the third time he personally had watched her bump a passenger.”

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The flight was delayed for an hour due to mechanical issues, and during that delay Simon went forward to the first class compartment and snapped a picture of Jackson Lee, tweeting it out with the caption:  “Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) in seat 1A, the one I paid for dearly, and the one United gave to her without my consent or knowledge.  Fellow congressman on same flight said she does it repeatedly. @United.”

United Airlines claims that Simon cancelled her own ticket using a smartphone app: “After thoroughly examining our electronic records, we found that upon receiving a notification that Flight 788 was delayed due to weather, the customer appears to have canceled her flight from Houston to Washington, DC within the United mobile app,” United stated.  But Simon vehemently denies that she cancelled her ticket, or ever had any notion of doing so. 

What seems more likely is that United, having had long and sad experience with Sheila Jackson Lee, decided to let her have the seat; they then invented the story about cancellation on the app to cover up for their preemptive surrender to the congresswoman. 

The male Texas congressman who sat beside Simon is not the only eyewitness to Jackson Lee’s frequent abuse of her status.  “I've seen Lee . . . cutting in line and rudely taking advantage of her status before. United knows she will play the race card if she isn't treated like royalty so they just give in. They don't care about a hard-working teacher vs a privileged idiot,” one person tweeted.

Daily Mail reporter David Martosko tweeted his experience with Jackson Lee, saying, “I saw Sheila Jackson-Lee on a domestic flight two years ago. While I was walking back to coach, she was throwing a hissy fit in First Class over why the steward had to gate-check her carry-on. (It was too big to fit in the overhead.) She threw a tantrum worthy of a 3-year-old.”

Back in the late 1990s, the Houston Press reported that Jackson Lee would regularly demand first class upgrades and throw temper tantrums when she did not get special treatment.  On one occasion, when Jackson Lee boarded a flight at Reagan National Airport and found that the menu did not include a seafood special she had wanted, she flew into a rage: "Don't you know who I am? I'm Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee. Where is my seafood meal? I know it was ordered!"  According to Rebecca Cox, a Continental Airlines vice president for governmental affairs, Jackson Lee "screamed at the top of her lungs at least a minute.  She embarrassed the flight attendants and the passengers in first class. And she embarrassed herself."

Whenever she is called out for her rude behavior, Jackson Lee plays the race card.  According to a 2011 Daily Caller report, she once demanded that her driver park in an area in front of the Treasury Building that the Secret Service had placed off limits.  When the Secret Service stopped Jackson Lee’s vehicle, she claimed it was because the “white” officers (who were actually Hispanic) were racist.

Unsurprisingly, Jackson Lee now claims that Jean-Marie Simon is a racist.  In a tweet about the incident, Jackson Lee wrote: “Since this was not any fault of mine, the way the individual continued to act appeared to be, upon reflection, because I was an African-American woman.”

Ordinarily, the Leftist media would close ranks around Jackson Lee, accept United’s story that Simon cancelled her own ticket, and possibly even buy the baseless slur that Simon is a racist.  This would have happened if Jackson Lee had bumped, say, a white conservative man and he had taken umbrage at losing his seat. (Our story’s male congressman, sitting near the back of the plane in coach, had likely long since accepted that, politically, he could not get away with even flying first class, much less bumping a civilian to do so.)

But Jean-Marie Simon is not just a “school teacher,” as most of the press accounts have reported, and she was not in Guatamala as a tourist.  She’s a graduate of Georgetown University and Harvard Law School.  During the 1980s, she lived in Guatemala and worked as a photojournalist, documenting human-rights abuses during that violent decade when the military seized control in a coup, and tens of thousands of Guatemalans were killed or “disappeared.”  Simon wrote the book, “Guatemala: Eternal Spring, Eternal Tyranny,” and has donated a thousand copies of her book to schools and universities in Guatemala “to keep the truth of what happened alive.”

The point is that Simon has liberal/progressive credentials that cannot easily be dismissed by the Leftist media, which helps explain why this story has had the “legs” to take it not only throughout the United States but to England and the entire anglophone world.

According to credible reports from numerous former staffers, Sheila Jackson Lee is an abusive employer who berates her staffers, calling them obscene names.  She is also physically abusive, throws cell phones at staff, and has demanded unsafe driving while being chauffeured (which reportedly once resulted in a motorcar accident).  

You don’t understand. I am a queen, and I demand to be treated like a queen,” she once told a member of her staff.

What a lot of rubbish and rot.  No, Sheila, you are not a queen.  We have a queen here in merry old England, and you’re not her.  When you Yanks split off from the mother country, you opted for a republic with no royalty nor even any titles of nobility.  You are an elected citizen-legislator, which gives you no license to be rude and overbearing toward the people you were hired to serve.

Why am I writing about Sheila Jackson Lee?  Why not leave her in well-deserved obscurity—if, alas, she has any obscurity left?  Because she identifies as a Seventh-day Adventist. (By the way, if she’s really an Adventist, why did she go off her trolley over that missing shrimp cocktail?)

This woman has been paraded around Adventist and NAD circles for years.  She was trotted out at the San Antonio General Conference and shown to the delegates as a high-ranking American politician and an Adventist.  She was invited to speak at Oakwood University in February, 2016. The communications directors featured her at one of their annual conventions several years ago, and she has been asked to speak at numerous upper level NAD gatherings. 

But she gives no evidence of having had a conversion experience, or of living a life of charity and humility.  Is there any evidence that her Adventist religion has refined and ennobled her character, or even filed down the sharpest edges of her temper?

She seems to be a first-rate narcissist.  “I am a queen, and demand to be treated like a queen” is dangerously close to, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly . . . I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”

I would suggest the NAD blokes find another prominent SDA politician to invite to their shindigs. Ben Carson, perhaps?  Or does the fact that gentle Ben is a cabinet secretary in a Republican administration disqualify him from being a role model for the Left-leaning NAD?

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